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RE: Serving women at work - 1/22/2007 12:38:00 PM

xonemasterx

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For me, this falls into the "Don't shit where you eat." category. This play can negatively impact career and future choices. If you accept this risk, its your decision.

Are any of the women you are helping aware of your need to do this?

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RE: Serving women at work - 1/22/2007 12:38:14 PM

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It seems to me that it is not necessary to manufacture such a situation. Whenever I have had female bosses, they have always been of the type who make making them look good easy and a pleasure, without having to downgrade anyone else. Even though I am a professional (lawyer), it has been a great pleasure to serve these women. I only wish it could have gone farther, but there are rules.

Now that I am "the boss", alas, there are no women to serve except my clients.

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RE: Serving women at work - 1/22/2007 12:53:15 PM

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I agree with the others - and I see that you are in denial ...

If you are showing obvious bias towards female coworkers, then you will end up in trouble - maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, maybe not even this year or next year ... but it will happen.

The title of this is "serving women at work" - which says to a lot of people that you are involving your kink at work ... that you are passing over males who are of equal value simply because they are male ... that is a serious, serious problem. Your 'service' to the women you work with may actually be doing them a diservice, and it's best to not force your biased views (even if they're in their favor) onto anyone else.

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RE: Serving women at work - 1/22/2007 1:39:48 PM

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does any one out there have ideas to share about serving women at work? i work in a white collar professional environment. i try where i can to give preferential service to female rather than male colleagues. this can be the quality of work i give to bosses or help that i give to younger colleagues. i talk up the achievements of women in conversations. are there other men doing the same?

From the replies you have made to other people's responses, it appears you aren't happy that everyone hasn't told you how absolutely right you are.

I have given preferential treatment to women in the office, but almost always because they weren't being fairly treated by others in the first place. There is "an old boys network" and some women are excluded for one reason or another. Typically, these women are either more intelligent than the men (which hurts their poor egos) or they are ultra attractive and have become oogling objects for the guys.

I once worked with a woman that was a Miss Oklahoma (or some State) runner-up. She was drop-dead gorgeous ... she was also smarter than just about everyone else, including me. Unfortunately for her, she was the bleached blonde, southern belle accent, short skirt type and that's all anyone ever saw or cared about.

Did I get down and pay homage to her? No. Did I talk up her non-physical qualities to the guys? Yes. Would I have done the same for a guy? Probably Not. Maybe it's the submissive aspect of me when it comes towards Women. Point is, I didn't submit to her in the lifestyle sense; I treated her how a gentleman and a friend would.

When a female co-worker tells you to kiss her ass - it's not a D/S thing; she's pissed at you and it's an insult ;-)

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RE: Serving women at work - 1/22/2007 3:58:44 PM

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mmmm.... not convinced by any replies so far

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RE: Serving women at work - 1/22/2007 4:06:56 PM

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tricky post....caution is all i have to say.

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RE: Serving women at work - 1/22/2007 6:09:59 PM

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I always help out the ladies at work, especially my Best Friend. She helps me out a lot, and I even got her to hold a Key for me, at times. I am always willing to help out a lady, but not sure if that is the Sub in me, or the gentleman.

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RE: Serving women at work - 1/22/2007 6:18:02 PM

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Well I was going to add something a little on the "critical' side...But since "BalletBob" says it's ok...Who am I to argue? I'm sure you are just days away from that promotion you've been eyeing.

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RE: Serving women at work - 1/23/2007 11:30:28 AM

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Second attempt to convince you

As a person in the business today you are to be unbiased.
Discrimination of any kind is not valuated and shouldn't be tolerated in any job and that's the goal.
Keep your personal life seperated from your professional life, otherwise you're just being one of the assholes the labor market is trying to get rid of, with all respect.

About your comment...pick a woman because otherwise you picked the guy cuz he is a guy. Guys can just as well sue you because you didn't hire them, if they find the woman not competitive to them.
When it comes to picking out a gender for the company you must look at the company as a whole. You try to keep equal amount of both genders in there, if two persons are applying for the job and are equally competitive then you hire the woman if there's less women but if there's less of men, you hire the man.

Did I succeed?

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RE: Serving women at work - 1/23/2007 11:37:25 AM

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nothing will convince you them ....but that does not mean you will not learn the folly of your ways...it just means that when you do learn it is going to be more of an owie.

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RE: Serving women at work - 1/23/2007 11:41:10 AM

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I admire the motivations MissyRane, but to be honest when I'm hiring its the best person for the job. Gender, sexuality, religion, age, ethnicity etc unimportant. Nationality either, as long as they have permission to live and work here.

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RE: Serving women at work - 1/23/2007 11:44:12 AM

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A few years back, I worked at a major corporation for the summer as an executive secretary to the woman in charge of regulation. She had fired practically everyone who worked for her in this capacity because they couldn't handle her demanding nature. We were a perfect fit, and it didn't take her long to figure out I was obviously someone who had zero problems taking orders from a woman. The office environment, mainly attorneys and me, was 12 women and me, the lowly executive secretary. It didn't take the other women in the office long to figure out that the boss's executive secretary would jump through hoops to make sure everyone was happy.

It was a great environment. Not once did the idea of "service", "slavery", or anything of that nature come up, and it didn't have to. They knew I was extremely service-oriented, and they took complete advantage of that, and they were the friendliest, kindest and most appreciative group of people I ever worked for, and I didn't have to draw them a picture of how much I loved being there. A few of them picked up that being gruff with me was an okay thing, and the business relationships kind of built themselves that way, almost as if there was a different D/s dynamic between each woman I came in daily contact with.

The main boss offered to hire me full time as her executive secretary, even offering me the option of choosing my own reasonable salary. But I was going back to school at that time, and I only had the summer off to pick up some money before continuing on towards finishing my degree at that time.

But it can work. The difference between the fantasy and reality is that you have to realize that if you go too far in what you are seeking, you can completely upset the apple cart and then you'll probably be out of a job or in a very uncomfortable (in a bad way) situation.

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RE: Serving women at work - 1/23/2007 12:04:08 PM

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I don't know the proclivities and orientation of everyone here, but reading through the thread it would appear that you have several women from both sides of the slash state that what you are doing doesn't appeal to them. Since your stated goal is to serve women, why would you not listen to what they have to say regarding what they find acceptable behavior at work?

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RE: Serving women at work - 1/23/2007 12:05:15 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: littlesarbonn

Not once did the idea of "service", "slavery", or anything of that nature come up, and it didn't have to.

i agree with that

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They knew I was extremely service-oriented, and they took complete advantage of that, and they were the friendliest, kindest and most appreciative group of people I ever worked for, and I didn't have to draw them a picture of how much I loved being there.

i think that this can work because we are often told to be "service-oriented" at work. so you shouldn't be seen as overly fawning or weak. it can be quite professional

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RE: Serving women at work - 1/23/2007 12:07:06 PM

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So, I should quit preparing to try and cop a blowjob from the female boss at work?

What are you saying here?

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RE: Serving women at work - 1/23/2007 12:10:24 PM

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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

I admire the motivations MissyRane, but to be honest when I'm hiring its the best person for the job. Gender, sexuality, religion, age, ethnicity etc unimportant. Nationality either, as long as they have permission to live and work here.

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Exactly my thoughts

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RE: Serving women at work - 1/23/2007 6:11:49 PM

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ron...you're a baaaaaaad monkey. you should be giving her the blowjob...not the other way around. after all...she's the boss :P

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RE: Serving women at work - 1/23/2007 6:20:12 PM

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I dont care to convince you. I share an opinion and thats all. You asked for opinions and youve gotten them

The majority of us dont think bringing your kink into your workplace is acceptable. If you choose to do so, and it works for you, wonderful. But dont get pissy when we dont pat you on the head for it. If you dont want to actually hear our opinions, then dont ask for them.

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RE: Serving women at work - 1/24/2007 10:59:57 AM

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ORIGINAL: DiurnalVampire

I dont care to convince you. I share an opinion and thats all. You asked for opinions and youve gotten them

The majority of us dont think bringing your kink into your workplace is acceptable. If you choose to do so, and it works for you, wonderful. But dont get pissy when we dont pat you on the head for it. If you dont want to actually hear our opinions, then dont ask for them.

DV

hi, no certainly i want to hear opinions

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