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non sexual male slaves - 1/21/2007 9:32:55 AM   
SimplyMichael


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Status: offline 		I am curious about taking on a male slave in a non sexual way as a service submissive.  Anyone with actual first hand experience in this, I am mainly looking for pitfalls and issues that aren't obvious.

I want to explore service and training without the sexual aspect getting in the way.  I am thinking that a male submissive who is straight would make an interesting project.  I can be free from having to worry about them falling in love or me letting relationship issues get in the way.

I was speaking with a person just starting to explore WIIWD and I was giving him advice which consisted of bascially, it sucks to be a male submissive, they are a dime a dozen or less and often more trouble than they are worth.  However, I was also explaining that with very little effort a male submissive could really stand out. 

Anyways, I look forward to an interesting discussion.
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RE: non sexual male slaves - 1/21/2007 10:03:18 AM   
BeltHerr


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From: Nashville, Tn
Status: offline 		I am an heterosexual Dom male who has always had female slaves. I have thought about having a female and a male slave serve in tandem, be trained in tandem, with Me having no sexual interest in the male slave, just training in pain, bondage, degradation, service. Comparing their responses. Anyone done this?

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RE: non sexual male slaves - 1/21/2007 10:05:26 AM   
MistressYlwa


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Status: offline 		Have found that the service oriented slaves, who have contacted me, are looking for cuckolding. Difficult to find just a service slave. Know they are out there. But not sure where to find them. LOL  If any contact me, will send them your way.
 
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RE: non sexual male slaves - 1/21/2007 10:06:21 AM   
topcat


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From: Tidewater, VA
Status: offline 		M. Michael-
 
Somewhere around ten years ago, I had a friend, a male submissive, and we developed a dynamic that worked rather well, although it was more limited to being 'club-buddies' than anything else.
 
When we went to a club, or event, he'd act as my valet/man-servant, toting the bags, 'caddying' during scenes (which is a wonderful thing to have to work with!), occasionally bottoming in a scene, all of which gave us an opportunity to display our skills. We would also 'pimp' each other, which worked rather well, except when we'd quibble over the occasional switch<g>.
 
Eventually, he found the Domme O' his Dreams, and moved to the midwest, and we have lost touch, but it was certainly a wonderful experiance, and one I'd certainly look forward to re-creating.
 
Stay warm,
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RE: non sexual male slaves - 1/21/2007 10:26:05 AM   
gailcd


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Status: offline 		i've served as a house cleaning maid for a woman. the idea of being a butler/housekeeper/valet really appeals. without any sexual contact and without any cuckolding. although i am only interested in serving women so there obviously is a sexual side to what i want not just pure service. i  think this is more common than you might think although i agree that the cuckold is common, i think lots of male submissives are sexual failures looking for the nearest they can get to sexual contact with women. the cuckolding brings their sexual failure into the open and they can enjoy humiliation from what would otherwise just be rejection and loneliness. however, as i say there are those of us into serving and i've seen women with several such men working as chauffeurs , shoppers, gardeners, cooks etc

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RE: non sexual male slaves - 1/21/2007 11:16:19 AM   
cloudboy


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You and Ladymorgynn should start a joint project.




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RE: non sexual male slaves - 1/21/2007 12:01:43 PM   
LuckyAlbatross


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Status: offline 		The entire first year my partner and I were together we had no sexual contact with eachother and he was fully submissive to me.

It wasn't as if he would have DENIED me sexual contact however, he was just shy, didn't want to push or seem greedy, and wanted to show me that he was focused on pleasing me more than anything.

But he was also happy and content with the way things were.  And I fell in love with him.

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RE: non sexual male slaves - 1/21/2007 12:07:08 PM   
SimplyMichael


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Status: offline 		LA,

Thanks for posting, you know I respect you and that I ask this out of respect for you and to learn.  You state that
quote:

he was fully submissive to me
and then go on to say
quote:

It wasn't as if he would have DENIED me sexual contact
.  How do you reconcile those two?

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RE: non sexual male slaves - 1/21/2007 12:14:29 PM   
LuckyAlbatross


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quote:

ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael
LA,

Thanks for posting, you know I respect you and that I ask this out of respect for you and to learn.  You state that
quote:

he was fully submissive to me
and then go on to say
quote:

It wasn't as if he would have DENIED me sexual contact
.  How do you reconcile those two?

Easily.  I did not desire or initiate sexual contact with him during that time.  He would not and did not reject me when I decided to start being sexual with him, but would not have ever taken the step of his own volition.

In other words "he wouldn't have denied me sexual contact" means "sexual contact wasn't a limit for him."

< Message edited by LuckyAlbatross -- 1/21/2007 12:15:07 PM >

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RE: non sexual male slaves - 1/21/2007 1:00:08 PM   
gailcd


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quote:

ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

quote:

ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael
LA,

Thanks for posting, you know I respect you and that I ask this out of respect for you and to learn.  You state that
quote:

he was fully submissive to me
and then go on to say
quote:

It wasn't as if he would have DENIED me sexual contact
.  How do you reconcile those two?

Easily.  I did not desire or initiate sexual contact with him during that time.  He would not and did not reject me when I decided to start being sexual with him, but would not have ever taken the step of his own volition.

In other words "he wouldn't have denied me sexual contact" means "sexual contact wasn't a limit for him."


i understand this. i love women but have never and would never initiate the sexual contact. i don't know where this comes from i don't decide to be this way. i have had sex with dominant women , my present Mistress is lesbian and had no desire for me at all. in both cases i have loved serving

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RE: non sexual male slaves - 1/21/2007 3:11:38 PM   
Mastermind70


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Status: offline 		I have topped sub males before and have often thought of setting up a similar situation myself. Would make for some very interesting scenes and I hate folding laundry 

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RE: non sexual male slaves - 1/21/2007 3:17:24 PM   
TexasMaam


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Status: offline 		A non sexual male submissive can often provide the very best possible service.

Not to mention that he'd benefit greatly from your tutelage, and would eventually make ME a MUCH better boy when you're done with him. 

The finest sub I ever knew was incapable of erection or orgasm, and afforded Me the freedom to focus on so much more than sexually oriented BDSM activities.  When he left My service he became a professional butler because he enjoyed taking care of home and hearth.  My loss, the new Master's gain.

; )

Let me know when you release him, won't you?

TM

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RE: non sexual male slaves - 1/21/2007 3:28:05 PM   
ServeMeInVA


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quote:

ORIGINAL: gailcd

i've served as a house cleaning maid for a woman. the idea of being a butler/housekeeper/valet really appeals. without any sexual contact and without any cuckolding. although i am only interested in serving women so there obviously is a sexual side to what i want not just pure service. i  think this is more common than you might think although i agree that the cuckold is common, i think lots of male submissives are sexual failures looking for the nearest they can get to sexual contact with women. the cuckolding brings their sexual failure into the open and they can enjoy humiliation from what would otherwise just be rejection and loneliness. however, as i say there are those of us into serving and i've seen women with several such men working as chauffeurs , shoppers, gardeners, cooks etc


Any chance you will move to the US?

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RE: non sexual male slaves - 1/21/2007 5:36:55 PM   
SimplyMichael


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Status: offline 		Thank you for a rather wonderful compliment!

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RE: non sexual male slaves - 1/21/2007 5:44:56 PM   
DiurnalVampire


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From: Nashville, TN
Status: offline 		I had a wonderful gay male slave for a while.  There was no sexual interest, though when we were feeling rambunctious we did go out looking for men together. He was by far the best service pet I had ever had, however the thing that got in the way was not my relationship with him. It was keeping him when I wanted a relationship with someone else. Even without the sexual feelings, he still required a lot of attention to be happy. When I met someone I wanted an actual relationship with, trying to keep both was nearly impossible.  He was jealous of the attention given to my romantic partner, becasue it was attention not given to him. In the end, we decided to split and remain friends.
Angel is, for now, a nonsexual servant as well.  Like in LAs case, we are going very slowly now that we are together and sex is not high on the priority list for either of us. I am not denied access to him if I want it, I just choose not to take it.

DV

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RE: non sexual male slaves - 1/21/2007 6:26:04 PM   
BalletBob


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Status: offline 		I am a Straight Male, and don't see any problems whith this. I am not into being a Sub, for SEX anyway...and in fact, denile is more fun to me. And when I am allowed, I could take cre of things myself.......ha ha ha.

En Pointe and Loving it, BalletBob

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RE: non sexual male slaves - 1/21/2007 7:46:00 PM   
TexasMaam


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Status: offline 		SimplyMichael is SOOOO much more appealing than your previous moniker.

You're welcome.  I'm serious though, let Me know when you've trained the boy and then send him My way! ; )

TM

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RE: non sexual male slaves - 1/21/2007 7:50:26 PM   
michaelOfGeorgia


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Status: offline 		i'm seeking the same thing, but from a Mistress...since me and other males don't get alone well.

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RE: non sexual male slaves - 1/21/2007 9:36:02 PM   
MasterFireMaam


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From: Charleston, WV
Status: offline 		Sit down and write out what you want from the relationship and what you're willing to offer. Even if you're not offering sex, you should be prepared to offer some things. Are you going to be allowing them to have a sexual relationship or are you going to expect them to be celebit? What kinds of service do you wish to receive? How will you incorporate them into your life? Etc, etc. The clearer you can make the guidelines, the better you'll be able to find the right one.

Master Fire


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RE: non sexual male slaves - 1/21/2007 11:24:42 PM   
michaelOfGeorgia


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quote:

ORIGINAL: MistressYlwa

Have found that the service oriented slaves, who have contacted me, are looking for cuckolding. Difficult to find just a service slave. Know they are out there. But not sure where to find them. LOL  If any contact me, will send them your way.
 
Mistress Ylwa


i am of that nature, but as i said, i don't serve men


< Message edited by michaelOfGeorgia -- 1/21/2007 11:25:21 PM >

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