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RE: The shape of the body - 1/9/2007 7:13:39 AM

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I did not set the standard, (size14 and up, considered bbw.) female clothing manufactures did. I have known women much larger then a 14 that as I see them from across the room a screaming throbbing pulsating quickening in my loin leaps to the surface. But its not their size, it’s the mystique and magnetism nature endowed them with. Its their unique ability to touch the woman within and dismiss social indoctrination.

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RE: The shape of the body - 1/9/2007 7:28:56 AM

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I was answering the question as to why there seem to be a higher percentage of fat people in the scene versus percentage vanilla and why it seems to be so much more accepted.

I think the fact that people look for something beyond the superficial frequently in the scene does answer the acceptability to some extent. Beyond that, I haven't been to cities outside of new england in the scene, and when I have been, the percentage did not seem outside of societal size norms.

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why do certain cultures seem to have different body preferences? and why do fat people seem to be more accepted in bdsm? rather than just rehashing the obvious "We're all beautiful! It's all about the inside!"

I think I answered that...  Being ultra thin is (IMO) an abnormal popularized ideal that (black) folks, who are working too hard to make ends meet (and haven't the money to buy vogue and cosmo) haven't the time or energy to obsess over that nonsense on most days, lol... Is that stereotypical?   Sorry this thread is trouble I can see it...

It's not stating we are all beautiful that is the problem...   I think that we would first have to agree that the number/percentage of fat lifestylers is aberrant in comparison to society's percentage of fat people.   In my admittedly limited observation, it is not...
I disagreed with you that being unpopular and on the net is the reason for large number of fat people in BDSM... My thought is that fat/unpopular people are more likely to join fat acceptance groups rather than people who do some crazy shit groups (what BDSM is in vanilla minds).    M

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RE: The shape of the body - 1/9/2007 7:39:22 AM

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ORIGINAL: BlkTallFullfig
think I answered that... Being ultra thin is (IMO) an abnormal popularized ideal that (black) folks, who are working too hard to make ends meet (and haven't the money to buy vogue and cosmo) haven't the time or energy to obsess over that nonsense on most days, lol... Is that stereotypical? Sorry this thread is trouble I can see it...

That doesn't mean *we* can't enjoy it.

I think we just obsess over other things based on general cultural preferencs.

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I disagreed with you that being unpopular and on the net is the reason for large number of fat people in BDSM... My thought is that fat/unpopular people are more likely to join fat acceptance groups rather than people who do some crazy shit groups (what BDSM is in vanilla minds). M

Well I think most of the world is open to "kinky sex" to start with, and, when you couple it with the rich, illusion of "we accept everyone and everything"- the scene can be quite alluring for those who have not been able to express themselves.

It is more than just being unpopular, like I said in my first response. Not fitting in with "mainstream" culture is both the cause and the effect of a lot of these issues. But I think that bdsm in some ways HAS become a fat acceptance group for a lot of people.

And yes, we disagree on the percentage in the scene vs outside the scene, so there's no way to resolve that or any conclusions based on that point.

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RE: The shape of the body - 1/9/2007 10:08:56 AM

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why do certain cultures seem to have different body preferences?

I'm not entirely sure they do. I think every individual has a different body preference but not that it is necessarily cultural. The one cultural thing i ahave noticed is that in Spain and i dont know whether it is true of other countries that you see lots of girls up to about the age of 25 and they really are stunning and slim. Then they get married and within 5 years they are bbw. You just dont really see anything in between there. Im not talking about coastal resorts either im talking about real spanish villages with very little tourism.

and why do fat people seem to be more accepted in bdsm?
I'd like to think its because of the lifestyle we live and that we are less likely to judge people. However i went to a swingers club just before xmas (i was working there not playing) and i noticed an awful lot of bbw's there. When i spoke to them the majority said they had found swinging an easy way to get sex in a society that didnt find them attractive. PLease dont flame me only repeating what they said.

On being easier to manipulate i do know that some of my friends who are bbw's will in their words not mine 'take what they can get' where men are concerned as they see themselves again not attractive to society.

If Hollywood is to blame for what we deem beautiful and desirable, then why does it not affect every ethnic background?
I think it does more and more so. You dont see very many bbw actresses, models, singers etc.

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RE: The shape of the body - 1/25/2007 5:12:45 AM

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im a bbw and im not easy to manipulate and with the taking whatever we can get i just like having a bloke around .

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RE: The shape of the body - 1/25/2007 5:25:03 AM

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whoa ..
fat girls are easier to manipulate?
pah leeez
I can not believe you said that ,and it seems you said it also as a put down.
Not a bad thing when your lifes calling is to be a GOOD SUBMISSIVE....
LOL LOL
There should be "fat awareness " groups.
But since there isnt I am going to volunteer.
No body in my entire life has EVER called me easy to manipulate.
Please stop making blanket statements like this.
It serves no purpose really.

for the wanna bee doms that really dont want a eoman of substance they are looking for a woman that doesnt have the sef assurance after all a wanna be doest really have what he needs to have so he is apt to go in search of an insecure woman...and the philosophy is that a fat girl should be thank ful that he came along......I actually was told that by my former hubby when i was at my glorious weight of 220.....imagine his surprise when i got divorced and lost his body weight twice! little peon! I shouldbe thankful becsue supposedly noone would want a fat girl.....LOL funny my schedule didnt slowed any when i was a BBW....it did slow however when i lost weight and now im more mainstream...didnt stop just slowed.

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RE: The shape of the body - 1/25/2007 5:44:57 AM

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fat girls are eaiser to manipulate - and so skinny ones aren't?

what a one-sided assumption. how did you come up with this assumption, OP? did you poll every bbw (vanilla and in BDSM) to come up with that generalized statement?

everyone no matter the size, race or color can be manipulated. NOT all of us bbws have low self-esteem issues as you are blatantly assuming.

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