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RE: How destructive is the Human Race - 1/9/2007 5:10:41 PM   
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To clarify, our sun lacks the mass to nova.

Through all my school years and in every science magazine I’ve ever read I’ve always heard that the Sun will go nova in four to five billion years. If there is a new theory gaining acceptance that says otherwise it’s news to me. Bottom line remains that the Sun will one day die. As you, LuckyAlbatross and others have noted, there are a great many ways the universe could do us in well before then. Until humans do figure out a way to migrate to other star systems, we are living on borrowed time. Of course the universe itself will one day come to an end, either in a Big Crunch or gradually flying apart due to entropy. Life is a fight against entropy but it is an ultimately losing battle.

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RE: How destructive is the Human Race - 1/9/2007 5:24:00 PM   
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To clarify, our sun lacks the mass to nova.

Through all my school years and in every science magazine I’ve ever read I’ve always heard that the Sun will go nova in four to five billion years. If there is a new theory gaining acceptance that says otherwise it’s news to me. Bottom line remains that the Sun will one day die. As you, LuckyAlbatross and others have noted, there are a great many ways the universe could do us in well before then. Until humans do figure out a way to migrate to other star systems, we are living on borrowed time. Of course the universe itself will one day come to an end, either in a Big Crunch or gradually flying apart due to entropy. Life is a fight against entropy but it is an ultimately losing battle.


I did not state that the sun would never die.  I simply pointed out that it will eventually burn out all of it's hydrogen and become a dark, cold, massive object.

http://library.thinkquest.org/C0126702/supernovain.htm

For a star to go nova (explode) it has to have a certain amount of mass to convert to a nickel 70 core, at which point it explodes shooting the nickel core out (it is an asymmetrical explosion) one direction or the other.

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RE: How destructive is the Human Race - 1/9/2007 6:22:33 PM   
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I did not state that the sun would never die.

Nor did I state that you stated that the Sun was never going to die (this could get confusing real fast). My point is that the relevant fact is not how the Sun is going to die but the fact that one way of another, it will die. That one way of another – were doomed. So let’s all eat, drink and be merry.

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RE: How destructive is the Human Race - 1/9/2007 6:25:28 PM   
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I did not state that the sun would never die.

Nor did I state that you stated that the Sun was never going to die (this could get confusing real fast). My point is that the relevant fact is not how the Sun is going to die but the fact that one way of another, it will die. That one way of another – were doomed. So let’s all eat, drink and be merry.


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RE: How destructive is the Human Race - 1/9/2007 7:08:08 PM   
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I see it the same way as many others.  There is very little we can do to change the environmental situation, short of completely changing our lives (Stop driving, stop heatig in winter, stop dealing with unethical companies [all of them] and essentially go back to living like cavemen.)  (Oh yeah, and kill off about 4/5 of the population)

However, what we are doing while we're still here is changing the course of evolution, nothing more.  If all the waterways have mercury in them, fish will, in a few thousand years, use that mercury for something.  They will adapt.  If we destroy the rainforest, the atmosphere will change.  That aint the first time.

So yanno what?  Enjoy it, folks.  If you don't, you can never gloat to your kids.

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RE: How destructive is the Human Race - 2/16/2007 11:59:17 AM   
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if u have toask....

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