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Teasing, Denial and erotic suffering - 10/31/2006 11:13:34 AM   
DiannaVesta


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The past 6 or more years I’ve really gotten heavy into teasing, denial & chastity training. I really love the headspace and dynamic from controlling a subs orgasm. I also see a heighten sense or focus on servitude. Teasing moves the sub through various spaces or eroticism, frustration and the relinquishing of control.  

Anyhow, I wanted to hear what other people thought about this and creative ways they engaged in this type of relationship. Like for instance if I have a slave in chastity I will purposely touch myself and wave my hand in front of their nose to get a ‘whiff” of me only to watch them shake and moan. I don’t know what it is about this type of suffering but it really excites me.


  I had a female slave once that was very excitable. I could blow on her ear and she’d shiver. I’d deny her orgasm for weeks at a time yet the whole time teasing her and keeping her on edge.   Thanks Dianna

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RE: Teasing, Denial and erotic suffering - 10/31/2006 11:20:11 AM   
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I really enjoy building up the anticipation and, more so, HIS reaction to the denial, knowing he loves and hates it equally.  While I tend to enjoy it to the point of intensifying an orgasm or building something up for a few days, I do not enjoy denial for denial's sake or long term teasing.

I think it is because I am such a sexually connected person, to cut off that source of energy for myself would simply be to deny who I am, so I seem to be unable to comprehend why someone else would want to cut that off for themselves.  I understand many people DO and find it quite fulfilling for them, but it's a foreign notion to me. 

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RE: Teasing, Denial and erotic suffering - 10/31/2006 11:36:41 AM   
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I really enjoy building up the anticipation and, more so, HIS reaction to the denial, knowing he loves and hates it equally.  While I tend to enjoy it to the point of intensifying an orgasm or building something up for a few days, I do not enjoy denial for denial's sake or long term teasing.

I think it is because I am such a sexually connected person, to cut off that source of energy for myself would simply be to deny who I am, so I seem to be unable to comprehend why someone else would want to cut that off for themselves.  I understand many people DO and find it quite fulfilling for them, but it's a foreign notion to me. 


Thank you. I think almost every enjoys the build up, don't they? I think its foreplay. The trip to home depot and the drive home.

I know what you're saying.


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RE: Teasing, Denial and erotic suffering - 10/31/2006 11:37:53 AM   
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sounds like a you have a good thing going...

I do so enjoy controlling orgasm... I dont have it in me to deny for weeks at a time - call me a sucker for the sub...
There is a great dynamic there - I agree.
LuckyAlbatross and I are a little closer on this though... I use it more for intensifying the orgasm then to deny it completely...

As a male I find it my greatest challenge understanding the sub/womans body and what works to acheive that intensity...
I have found a 'less is more' approach that works very well.

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RE: Teasing, Denial and erotic suffering - 10/31/2006 11:50:41 AM   
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sounds like a you have a good thing going...

I do so enjoy controlling orgasm... I dont have it in me to deny for weeks at a time - call me a sucker for the sub...
There is a great dynamic there - I agree.
LuckyAlbatross and I are a little closer on this though... I use it more for intensifying the orgasm then to deny it completely...

As a male I find it my greatest challenge understanding the sub/womans body and what works to acheive that intensity...
I have found a 'less is more' approach that works very well.

desoutter


Oh I don't mean to deny it completely. Ok maybe in rare cases but to deny for long periods then allow release. During that time lots of teasing is going on which is why there is suffering. <eg> Best kind if you aks me.


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RE: Teasing, Denial and erotic suffering - 10/31/2006 11:58:21 AM   
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The chastity thing is fun and I've played it a few times. Yes, as a male who has experienced chastity I can say you both love it and hate it at the same time. It is that mixture of feelings that make it delicious. 

Here's a game: get your favorite chaste sub (preferably one that hasn't cum in a week or two), get him naked then stroke his cock very slowly with one hand while holding the base of his cock with your other hand. Here's the twisted part: it is up to him to remain absolutely relaxed.  He is not allowed to twitch his cock (you'll feel it at the base) and, in fact, you can tell him that he can cum if he wants, but only without any twitching. What if he does twitch? For every twitch is another day in chastity. 

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RE: Teasing, Denial and erotic suffering - 10/31/2006 12:45:42 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DiannaVesta

Oh I don't mean to deny it completely. Ok maybe in rare cases but to deny for long periods then allow release. During that time lots of teasing is going on which is why there is suffering. <eg> Best kind if you aks me.


Who doesnt love a sinner... lol
I should pose the question - what is everyones favorite teasing, denial and erotic suffering technique... Now that would be a thread to hack through.... lol
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RE: Teasing, Denial and erotic suffering - 10/31/2006 1:10:29 PM   
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The chastity thing is fun and I've played it a few times. Yes, as a male who has experienced chastity I can say you both love it and hate it at the same time. It is that mixture of feelings that make it delicious. 

Here's a game: get your favorite chaste sub (preferably one that hasn't cum in a week or two), get him naked then stroke his cock very slowly with one hand while holding the base of his cock with your other hand. Here's the twisted part: it is up to him to remain absolutely relaxed.  He is not allowed to twitch his cock (you'll feel it at the base) and, in fact, you can tell him that he can cum if he wants, but only without any twitching. What if he does twitch? For every twitch is another day in chastity. 



awww that's tame! I'm really tired and got this cold but I promise to come back with one better. I don't need to touch a man's cock to make his ass shake and shiver. Thats a fact!


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RE: Teasing, Denial and erotic suffering - 10/31/2006 1:13:37 PM   
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I've never really ever been able to find anyone into controlled chastity, other than a dominant here or there in the past that was into having me exercise self-control. It's one of those things I've always sought, but never really found.

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RE: Teasing, Denial and erotic suffering - 10/31/2006 1:36:58 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: DiannaVesta

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ORIGINAL: hsagnev

The chastity thing is fun and I've played it a few times. Yes, as a male who has experienced chastity I can say you both love it and hate it at the same time. It is that mixture of feelings that make it delicious. 

Here's a game: get your favorite chaste sub (preferably one that hasn't cum in a week or two), get him naked then stroke his cock very slowly with one hand while holding the base of his cock with your other hand. Here's the twisted part: it is up to him to remain absolutely relaxed.  He is not allowed to twitch his cock (you'll feel it at the base) and, in fact, you can tell him that he can cum if he wants, but only without any twitching. What if he does twitch? For every twitch is another day in chastity. 


awww that's tame! I'm really tired and got this cold but I promise to come back with one better. I don't need to touch a man's cock to make his ass shake and shiver. Thats a fact!



Well, it's freaky, but I've entertained pain (issued by the more sadistic of Doms).  Once it was an Icy Hot day (I had to video tape the ordeal) and on another occasion is was electro-play.  Shall I elaborate more on this?

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RE: Teasing, Denial and erotic suffering - 10/31/2006 1:47:12 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: hsagnev

quote:

ORIGINAL: DiannaVesta

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ORIGINAL: hsagnev

The chastity thing is fun and I've played it a few times. Yes, as a male who has experienced chastity I can say you both love it and hate it at the same time. It is that mixture of feelings that make it delicious. 

Here's a game: get your favorite chaste sub (preferably one that hasn't cum in a week or two), get him naked then stroke his cock very slowly with one hand while holding the base of his cock with your other hand. Here's the twisted part: it is up to him to remain absolutely relaxed.  He is not allowed to twitch his cock (you'll feel it at the base) and, in fact, you can tell him that he can cum if he wants, but only without any twitching. What if he does twitch? For every twitch is another day in chastity. 


awww that's tame! I'm really tired and got this cold but I promise to come back with one better. I don't need to touch a man's cock to make his ass shake and shiver. Thats a fact!



Well, it's freaky, but I've entertained pain (issued by the more sadistic of Doms).  Once it was an Icy Hot day (I had to video tape the ordeal) and on another occasion is was electro-play.  Shall I elaborate more on this?


No baby cakes. I’m talking about UNBEARABLE suffering. The type that wrenches deep within down to the very core of your existence. When the whiff of her scent lingers past you and your entire being shakes as your spirit exits your body, abandoning you for the chance to be near her at any capacity she sees fit… if only it means to kiss the ground she has already walked on.  

Trust me when I tell you there is pain that exist far more penetrating then any implement, toy or cream. A pain entangled in desire and longing so deep that breathing becomes difficult.   A bloody ass goes away but this seems to linger on forever. The right woman will instill this addiction through teasing and denial.

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RE: Teasing, Denial and erotic suffering - 10/31/2006 1:49:48 PM   
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A lot of hot femsub (and some malesub) T&D info can be found here:

http://tantalism.org


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RE: Teasing, Denial and erotic suffering - 10/31/2006 1:52:58 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DiannaVesta

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ORIGINAL: hsagnev

quote:

ORIGINAL: DiannaVesta

quote:

ORIGINAL: hsagnev

The chastity thing is fun and I've played it a few times. Yes, as a male who has experienced chastity I can say you both love it and hate it at the same time. It is that mixture of feelings that make it delicious. 

Here's a game: get your favorite chaste sub (preferably one that hasn't cum in a week or two), get him naked then stroke his cock very slowly with one hand while holding the base of his cock with your other hand. Here's the twisted part: it is up to him to remain absolutely relaxed.  He is not allowed to twitch his cock (you'll feel it at the base) and, in fact, you can tell him that he can cum if he wants, but only without any twitching. What if he does twitch? For every twitch is another day in chastity. 


awww that's tame! I'm really tired and got this cold but I promise to come back with one better. I don't need to touch a man's cock to make his ass shake and shiver. Thats a fact!



Well, it's freaky, but I've entertained pain (issued by the more sadistic of Doms).  Once it was an Icy Hot day (I had to video tape the ordeal) and on another occasion is was electro-play.  Shall I elaborate more on this?


No baby cakes. I’m talking about UNBEARABLE suffering. The type that wrenches deep within down to the very core of your existence. When the whiff of her scent lingers past you and your entire being shakes as your spirit exits your body, abandoning you for the chance to be near her at any capacity she sees fit… if only it means to kiss the ground she has already walked on.  

Trust me when I tell you there is pain that exist far more penetrating then any implement, toy or cream. A pain entangled in desire and longing so deep that breathing becomes difficult.   A bloody ass goes away but this seems to linger on forever. The right woman will instill this addiction through teasing and denial.


Well, when you put it that way it sounds down right scary yet tempting to delve into the web you describe.  Tell me, is sticky down there?

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RE: Teasing, Denial and erotic suffering - 10/31/2006 1:57:40 PM   
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huh? sticky? honey you need a martini! I think you should read it a few times and ponder it tonight in your sleep. That is if you can sleep.

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RE: Teasing, Denial and erotic suffering - 10/31/2006 2:00:45 PM   
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Well, it just so happens that I've been in chastity a little over two weeks now - it is hard to sleep - I know.

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RE: Teasing, Denial and erotic suffering - 10/31/2006 2:16:01 PM   
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Talking away the very essence of manhood is bold to say the least, but when added tension finds no mercy then we’re playing a different sort of game entirely with every second of one’s life and every seemingly ordinary act unable to escape abundant thoughts of lechery.  Cruel as it may seem the goal, here, is to exude and yield as much lust from a man’s denied body as is humanly possible and as he begins to fill with hormones you might hear the most maniacal, yet sonorous of laughter permeate the air and as this sound interleaves the cloud of anguish from a tortured soul begging to cum an amazing subspace is created leading to the most harmonious of pleasures for all to enjoy.

Well, that's my take on it anyway....

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RE: Teasing, Denial and erotic suffering - 10/31/2006 2:21:06 PM   
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I've never really ever been able to find anyone into controlled chastity, other than a dominant here or there in the past that was into having me exercise self-control. It's one of those things I've always sought, but never really found.


Are you serious? I'm not sure where you've been looking. I think its quite common.


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RE: Teasing, Denial and erotic suffering - 10/31/2006 2:59:32 PM   
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Talking away the very essence of manhood is bold to say the least, but when added tension finds no mercy then we’re playing a different sort of game entirely with every second of one’s life and every seemingly ordinary act unable to escape abundant thoughts of lechery.  Cruel as it may seem the goal, here, is to exude and yield as much lust from a man’s denied body as is humanly possible and as he begins to fill with hormones you might hear the most maniacal, yet sonorous of laughter permeate the air and as this sound interleaves the cloud of anguish from a tortured soul begging to cum an amazing subspace is created leading to the most harmonious of pleasures for all to enjoy.

Well, that's my take on it anyway....


well we're getting close to the same page. At least we're in the same book.


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RE: Teasing, Denial and erotic suffering - 10/31/2006 3:56:16 PM   
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DiannaVesta,
The trick of keeping a sub in chastity, is not to prolong the release in that interest is lost, nor to allow too frequent release to destroy desire. In balancing the cuckholding with the orgasmic release, an obediant, willing, and enthusiastic submissive is created. Of couse that balance will have to vary based on the submissive's individual needs, and the limits the Mistress can push.

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RE: Teasing, Denial and erotic suffering - 10/31/2006 4:48:12 PM   
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Own the cock and you really will own everything else that is attached..
 
'The longer a man goes without orgasm, the greater lengths he will go to in order to achieve one. In other words, a teased man will do whatever his Woman wishes. Conversely, once a man climaxes, he is not thinking about sex any longer. The needs of his Woman are ignored. Thus, the orgasm must be harnessed - figuratively and literally. Denial of orgasm should be used as punishment, fulfilment of orgasm as reward.'
 
I am with Diana- I REALLY get excited about the sadistic torment of enforced chastity and the edge play of tease and denial.
 


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