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ToGiveDivine -> RE: Tattooing a Killer (10/31/2006 2:48:47 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

Thanks Benji - I like the idea of being a bitch and a tramp, and I'm not lying.... or am I?

Anyway, of course you dont know what I'm talking about - even I dont know what I'm talking about!

E

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and what would happen to us if we called you those names?




LadyEllen -> RE: Tattooing a Killer (10/31/2006 2:48:50 PM)

Anyway Goobersnaps, I'm not sure youre even that happy, let alone gay?
E




LadyEllen -> RE: Tattooing a Killer (10/31/2006 2:51:53 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ToGiveDivine

quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

Thanks Benji - I like the idea of being a bitch and a tramp, and I'm not lying.... or am I?

Anyway, of course you dont know what I'm talking about - even I dont know what I'm talking about!

E

edited last Wednesday, but then reposted under a different ID


and what would happen to us if we called you those names?


Not sure TGD. I could put out a contract on you, but theyre so expensive these days now the Russians have got clued up on market rates, and not having names and addresses makes it so difficult. I mean, I've only had 2 members bumped off in 3 or 4 months, so you can see the problems?

E




ToGiveDivine -> RE: Tattooing a Killer (10/31/2006 2:55:31 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

quote:

ORIGINAL: ToGiveDivine

quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

Thanks Benji - I like the idea of being a bitch and a tramp, and I'm not lying.... or am I?

Anyway, of course you dont know what I'm talking about - even I dont know what I'm talking about!

E

edited last Wednesday, but then reposted under a different ID


and what would happen to us if we called you those names?


Not sure TGD. I could put out a contract on you, but theyre so expensive these days now the Russians have got clued up on market rates, and not having names and addresses makes it so difficult. I mean, I've only had 2 members bumped off in 3 or 4 months, so you can see the problems?

E



Okaaaaaay ...

Have I told you how lovely you look?  [:o]




LadyEllen -> RE: Tattooing a Killer (10/31/2006 3:06:06 PM)

No. And I think you should do it a lot more often...... did you read the "whats in a killing?" thread?

(cue creepy, forboding music)

E




gooddogbenji -> RE: Tattooing a Killer (10/31/2006 3:08:25 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

Anyway Goobersnaps, I'm not sure youre even that happy, let alone gay?
E


Lalalalalalal! *Skipping along*

Oh who will join me in a broadway musical of me getting a manicure?

Yours,


benji




LadyEllen -> RE: Tattooing a Killer (10/31/2006 3:12:43 PM)

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ORIGINAL: gooddogbenji

quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

Anyway Goobersnaps, I'm not sure youre even that happy, let alone gay?
E


Lalalalalalal! *Skipping along*

Oh who will join me in a broadway musical of me getting a manicure?

Yours,


benji


I think you should do it solo. You'd nail it.

E




SlaveAkasha -> RE: Tattooing a Killer (10/31/2006 3:32:23 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MstrJohnJ

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ORIGINAL: SlaveAkasha


I saw something like this in a movie once, that I believe was based on a true story, but I am not positive.  This guy brutually raped a woman, and then someone tattooed "Rapist" on his forehead. 

Kasha


That would prob be Prey for Rock & Roll
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0307351/


Lol.. thanks.. I knew it, but it feels like I am the only one that's ever seen it, so didn't name it.  
 
I have a bit of a thing for Gina Gershon..lol.. 
 
Kasha




Quivver -> RE: Tattooing a Killer (10/31/2006 5:09:46 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ZenrageTheKeeper

Uh, excuse me? There is a major difference between having religious faith and judging people based on the color of their skin. And just because a woman wears a burqa, it sure doesn't mean she's a terrorist or even supports terrorism by default.
In any case, a muslim extremist will at the very least accept a man if he changes his faith, a klansman (read socially retarded and intellectually irresponsible hick) is incapable of accepting a black person ever - because skin color can't be changed.

Bleeding heart, my black ass.



Zenrage, your cute black ass missed my point.  I used the klan only as a reference point of one ~hood~ being no different then the other.  We as a country have bent over backwards for the innocent till proven guilty thing.  Who get's F'ed?  The victim........  And in this case this poor woman got gang raped non consensualy, first by her initial plight of no place to call home, then this idiot who talked his way into her life.  Next will be a trail and she'll be drug thru the BS all over again.  Will they give him a life sentence?  Most likely NOT... and God forbid we could never give this jerk a death sentence or those bleeding hearts I spoke of before would be lined up to offer their services and appeal for years.  All of which would come off our back (if your a US citizen) thru your taxes.  Which brings me back to the Hoods.... some municipalities have a law on the books that doesnt allow one to go about hooded.  Yet for religious purposes this is forgiven?  It wont take long for a smart criminal to find opertunity in our bleeding heart ... I hope it's not in your city, or mine.........................




Zensee -> RE: Tattooing a Killer (10/31/2006 5:14:26 PM)

So glad I live in a society where the rule of law is upheld. I can't imagine living in a hell like the one the vigilantes on this thread advocate, legless, eyeless, scorched and tatooed corpses hanging from the lamp posts. Sounds a bit like the middle ages. Time to move forward, don't you think folks?

I can understand the anger and might even be tipped over into that world of revenge killing if I suffered enough at the hands of some criminal - that doesn't make it right. If we engage in the same savagery as the criminals then we are no better.  0




thompsonx -> RE: Tattooing a Killer (11/4/2006 6:31:19 PM)

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ORIGINAL: gooddogbenji

I'm the first to agree with the "kill 'em all" philosophy, but a prison system which creates a vicious cycle only creates more crime.

Either make it impossible to commit another crime or help them on a road to betterment, but don't make it betterment impossible and help them commit another crime.

Yours,


benji


benji:
The prison system is an industry in itself.  In the U.S. more than 70% of the people in prison are in prison on drug related offenses...
just think if drugs were legal then we would have 70% more cops available for real crime, 70% more court room space for real crime, 70% more prosecutors and judges available for real crime...OMG what a bizarre concept.

thompson




LadyEllen -> RE: Tattooing a Killer (11/5/2006 6:21:30 AM)

Thompson - legalise all drugs? Its something I've thought about too. It seems to me, that its not "bad" people who abuse drugs (including alcohol, the most pernicious and evil drug in our society), but people who find themselves in circumstances which are too much for them to cope with, and from which they seek escape, for which drugs are a solution. Not only environmental circumstances which as a society we could do something about, but also psychological circumstances.

Looking at it this way, the abuse of drugs is performing a societal function in some ways - millions of people self medicating to get through a life which otherwise is shit. Its the crime which the illegality of drugs causes - people must steal, lie and cheat to obtain the money for their medication, and those selling the medication must use violence to preserve their markets, which produces the negative impact on society in general, not the use of the drugs themselves.

There is an argument there for the legalised and controlled dispensing of drugs to people, if we are to admit as a society that we really dont give a rat's arse about how bad their lives or their mental conditions are - which indeed seems to be the case. At a stroke, we remove the need for crime on the part of those taking the drugs, and remove the highly socially dangerous factor of organised criminal drug distribution.

I also see something of a personal freedom issue in there; surely if we are all possessed of individual freedom then what we choose to ingest, smoke or inject, is no one else's business? Why is it that alcohol is legal, and allowed to run rampant in our society, with the traditional vagrant wino seen as a somewhat comic figure, whilst the equivalent is so frowned upon when the drug of choice is one currently on the banned list? Surely, if government bans drugs because of the health problems and social damage they cause, then it must ergo also ban the most commonly abused drug, (alcohol) and at once cease and desist from obtaining tax revenues from its sale, to resolve the enormous problems which alcohol produces and to avoid the charge of living off earnings which were they derived from any other drug, would be a criminal offence?

In the end though, legalising drugs, whilst it would solve the criminal behaviour which the current arrangements produce, would only produce other problems. Were such drugs as heroin as freely available as alcohol, then I believe we would find a very high percentage of our populations living as addicts - in fact multiple addicts with addiction to several different drugs. Aside from the loss of judgement which drugs occasion - leading to all manner of ills, there are also very real social and health issues arising from their use which would result in the collapse of our countries. Everyone's life is shit at times, and some people's lives are shit all the time, so drug use would become universal were it not for the current criminal penalties associated with it. I believe we only have to look at the depth and breadth of alcohol abuse and its effects on individuals, families and society in general, to realise that adding more legalised drugs to the list of possible ways of escape from reality, would result in only an incease in those negative influences overall.

The only solution I see is to produce a society where no one has to have a shit life from which they wish to seek escape. However, that aint never gonna happen, I fear, as those with the power to produce such a society dont care, and those voting for them would never choose the kind of social and economic policies which would be required. Meanwhile, those using the drugs now, generally I would say dont vote at all, and need not be listened to by anyone anyway - indeed anyone in power associating with drug addicts only ever suffers negative publicity for it anyway, and its far easier all round, and far more popular, to write them off as evil.

E





MmakeMme -> RE: Tattooing a Killer (11/5/2006 7:06:51 AM)

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ORIGINAL: SlaveAkasha


Do you think that the person that did it, really ought to be punished in a severe way?
 
Somehow, it does seem justified and maybe if it were done to other child molesters, or rapists, the world would be a lot safer.  Then the problem runs into people who really didn't do something, and being found guilty anyway.  I don't know, I mean.. I know people change, and maybe someone that did it once, might not again ever.  Should they have to pay the rest of their lives for it?  Then there is the other side of that.. The person that it was done to, and their families have to pay for life, why not the person that did it?
  
Kasha


I don't think it's a particularly bad idea ... but then it would be taken to the extreme, some people would be tattooed without justification, someone(s) would sue, it would be "cruel and inhumane", and blah blah blah blah blah, and there we go again. On the other side of it, tattoos can be removed easily these days. If only there were a good deterrent to such crimes instead of only punishments that do not work.

If there were good deterrents to all the ills of society, though, there would be no AIDS, no vehicular DUI manslaughter, no wars, no murder, no rape, no therapists, no jails ... only paradise.

But the down side to paradise is that there's nothing to complain about. And so we start all over again. (The human condition - can you tell me a fate that's worse?)




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