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Hynposis - 10/18/2006 1:47:33 PM

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i just listened to a recording created by a friend who is very much into doing hypnosis and it was very well done. this was not the first time i've been asked to listen to such recordings and some i've stumbled across on the net. as it stands, i am immune to hypnosis and wonder if it's because my mind is so set in being analytical that these things are inaffective on me?

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RE: Hynposis - 10/18/2006 1:50:24 PM

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...Or maybe it's a load of crock?

I've tried hypnosis...was totally down with it, wanted to try it...
But the thing...is just...I don't know.

No offense to those who do it, believe in it, and believe they were under hypnosis.

I never have been, so I don't believe in it, personally.

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RE: Hynposis - 10/18/2006 1:50:58 PM

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quote:

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i just listened to a recording created by a friend who is very much into doing hypnosis and it was very well done. this was not the first time i've been asked to listen to such recordings and some i've stumbled across on the net. as it stands, i am immune to hypnosis and wonder if it's because my mind is so set in being analytical that these things are inaffective on me?

Hello michaelGA2,

I used to hypnotize my friends in school. It is not all that difficult to do.

It is not so much how analytical you are, per se, but only really works on people whose intelligence and awareness is within a certain range, normal, if you will.

People who are very intelligent or very unintelligent tend to be immune to hypnosis.

Just me, could be wrong, but there you go.

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RE: Hynposis - 10/18/2006 1:54:12 PM

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...Or maybe it's a load of crock?

I've tried hypnosis...was totally down with it, wanted to try it...
But the thing...is just...I don't know.

No offense to those who do it, believe in it, and believe they were under hypnosis.

I never have been, so I don't believe in it, personally.

Oh yeah - someone say "Rumplestiltskin" and she'll start flapping her arms and clucking - ROFL

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RE: Hynposis - 10/18/2006 1:56:00 PM

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i detected at least 30 different sounds, voices and such in the background. not all were discernable or identifiable to me but it seemed to be a very well complied recording. perhaps an attempt at subliminal messaging was integrated into the file. i remain unaffected nonetheless. what's this say about me? am i too smart or too stupid to be affected? i wonder...

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RE: Hynposis - 10/18/2006 2:09:26 PM

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lol..Wow, Rumplestiltskin?

I just never was able to go under. I was willing to try it, someone tried on me, and I fell asleep literally (not in the hypnosis way).

So for me, I don't believe that it actually works. Maybe if I actually see it in person by people who do it, I'll believe, but otherwise, to me it's a load of crock.

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RE: Hynposis - 10/18/2006 4:16:20 PM

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"you are feeling very sleepy..."
"you are very sleepy now..."

"Ven I snap my fingers....you vill submit too me!"
"Now do everything I command....!!!"

(did it work?...did it?)

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RE: Hynposis - 10/18/2006 9:27:21 PM

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quote:

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i just listened to a recording created by a friend who is very much into doing hypnosis and it was very well done. this was not the first time i've been asked to listen to such recordings and some i've stumbled across on the net. as it stands, i am immune to hypnosis and wonder if it's because my mind is so set in being analytical that these things are inaffective on me?

The beauty of hypnosis is that it only works when the subject is willing and cooperating with the process. Everyone is "immune" if they decide they don't want to be hypnotized, so it's nothing special really. And recordings are far less effective than one-to-one work with a trained therapist, but if it's not your thing it'll never work for you.

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RE: Hypnosis - 10/18/2006 9:31:53 PM

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maybe you're right

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RE: Hypnosis - 10/18/2006 9:43:03 PM

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Hey michael...you're neighbor just called to say she is worried about you because you're walking around clucking like a chicken...lol.

Seriously though, I had an opportunity to try hypnosis in the hospital. It wasn't at all what I thought. Maybe it's because it was a technique that is used for pain control...so it may not be the same thing you are talking about. What they did was put on some very soothing music and then the tech spoke in a very soothing, even voice and went through a series of visualizations that he wanted me to do. Like visualizing my breath coming in as very cool and blue and visualizing it going to the area of pain which was hot and red. Then on the exhale visualizing it as picking up some of the hot and red pain and having it leave my body with the breath. Then he guided me through muscle relaxation, starting at the toes and working my way up to the top of my head one muscle at a time.

I found it to be very relaxing indeed....but I didn't feel "out of it" or like I would do things on command.

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RE: Hynposis - 10/18/2006 10:38:53 PM

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People who are very intelligent or very unintelligent tend to be immune to hypnosis.

Actually, I find the exact opposite to be the case. Intelligence is directly related to suggestibility. The more intelligent someone is, the more easily they can be hypnotized. People of below-average IQ find it difficult to go into a hypnotic or meditative state. Geniuses are naturally close to a hypnotic state of Alpha most of the time and therefore enter hypnosis or a meditative state fairly easily. (This supposedly accounts for their ability to transfer information from their subconscious mind to their waking life with ease.)

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RE: Hynposis - 10/18/2006 10:53:15 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Sinergy
People who are very intelligent or very unintelligent tend to be immune to hypnosis.

Actually, I find the exact opposite to be the case. Intelligence is directly related to suggestibility. The more intelligent someone is, the more easily they can be hypnotized. People of below-average IQ find it difficult to go into a hypnotic or meditative state. Geniuses are naturally close to a hypnotic state of Alpha most of the time and therefore enter hypnosis or a meditative state fairly easily. (This supposedly accounts for their ability to transfer information from their subconscious mind to their waking life with ease.)

This seems to support what you say.

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12) Only about 33% of all people are hypnotizable.

False.

Actually only a small percentage of the population is not hypnotizable. Young children till the age of 6-7 and people with IQ lower then 70. They simply lack understanding and concentration and thus cannot follow instruction. Deeply emotionally disturbed people and paranoid schizophrenics. They distrust everyone and will not allow themselves to by hypnotized.

From this link:
http://www.breakthroughinstitute.com/answers_to_quiz.htm

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RE: Hynposis - 10/18/2006 11:04:43 PM

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I took a class in self-hypnosis last year in an effort to reduce stress. Erin's experience was similar to what we learned in that class, and yes, it was intended to be therapeutic, not the "make them do funny stuff" that we see in stage hypnosis. What we were actually doing was to bring ourselves deliberately through the different states of consciousness because the instructions/suggestions we needed to impart to ourselves have to be delivered at different levels - and then you have to be able to bring yourself back out. (If you don't bring yourself out, you basically just fall asleep - but that is not so productive if you are trying to do a mini session for yourself just before a big presentation, for example!)

I do think that higher intelligence would make it easier to hypnotize someone IF they can relax and let it flow. More intelligent and/or creative people (generalizing here, yes, I know) generally are able to "release" their inhibitions more quickly to let fresh ideas come forth. But they are also able to "lock down" tighter, so it would come down to the trust the subject has in the hypnotizer as well as their desire to allow the hypnosis to occur.

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RE: Hynposis - 10/18/2006 11:13:58 PM

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Michael, any mindset to begin with is not conducive to imagery and self-awareness that can come with increased suggestibilty. The whole point is to free the mind and thus focus it. Hypnosis calls upon one to exercise emotional intelligence, focus and desire to change one's life for the better. You just have to want it.

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RE: Hynposis - 10/18/2006 11:23:44 PM

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For those of you who have performed hypnosis, how different is it from guided meditation with breathing? I've done a lot of that, and feel that I've probably brought people close to a hypnotic state, but I don't really know for certain. Any suggestions on good resources to learn more about hypnosis?

Thanks!

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RE: Hynposis - 10/18/2006 11:33:29 PM

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For those of you who have performed hypnosis, how different is it from guided meditation with breathing? I've done a lot of that, and feel that I've probably brought people close to a hypnotic state, but I don't really know for certain. Any suggestions on good resources to learn more about hypnosis?

Thanks!

Lady S

Extremely close. For some folks, that's all it is! If you've ever found yourself sitting and staring, say, at the computer, and suddenly "became aware", you were in an alpha, self-hypnotized state. This also (sometimes tragically) happens when someone is driving down the road and becomes tranced by the repetitive imagery in their field of vision. (See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highway_hypnosis for more details.)

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RE: Hynposis - 10/18/2006 11:35:18 PM

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Thank you Ms Pandora. :)

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RE: Hynposis - 10/18/2006 11:40:06 PM

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You're welcome. I went back and fluffed up the answer a bit because I hit ok before I had intended to!

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RE: Hynposis - 10/23/2006 5:28:27 AM

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Michael, any mindset to begin with is not conducive to imagery and self-awareness that can come with increased suggestibilty. The whole point is to free the mind and thus focus it. Hypnosis calls upon one to exercise emotional intelligence, focus and desire to change one's life for the better. You just have to want it.

i know, but sometimes i wish i could be hypnotized...maybe i'm a little afraid of what i may end up doing.

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RE: Hynposis - 10/23/2006 9:45:22 AM

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i would say you have your answer right there.

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maybe i'm a little afraid of what i may end up doing.

You are your own worst enemy and are blocking anything from happening. i have found that just listening to something doesn't work anyway, there is so much more to be had in person, but that is still no guarantee it will actually work.

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