CreativeDominant
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ORIGINAL: Mavis Carried over from the thread "Sir wants to know" in Ask a Master.. The topic of tone and manner came up, and surely there are a few of us who battle this. i tend to speak enthusiastically, and it can lead to me getting so into a topic, i'll forget others are speaking. Items like sarcasm, and biting comments when in a conflict or debate are one thing, and W/we all know those are on the bad list. But other items, like interrupting, raising voice, dominating a conversation.. those might not always be intentionally unruly, but they still need dealt with if we are to be good reflections of our "Handlers" and if we are to be taken seriously as submissives or slaves. i think the reason so many of us have problems in this area is the wide array of what is considered mannerly. The article posted by amayos .. http://humbledfemales.com/tamingthetongue.html ..suggests meekness in speech, but does that mean using a passive, low-toned, barely perceptible mouse-voice? i think not. That still leaves the issue of content un-addressed. The nicest sweetest speaking southern girl i know uses the sweet tones to blast the shoes, purse, and clothing color choices of the other ladies as they enter the room, and the guys think she is just heaven on heels. She spews venom with impunity because she sounds so sweet and demure doing so. This "perfect sub" is basically a mean spirited little witch wearing a halo. So it would seem many Dominants are aware of mannerly speech standards, but then, are also oblivious to the content delivered. So my questions, Do Dom/mes really not pay attention to what is being said, so long as it "sounds nice"? I pay attention to every word that is said by a submissive that I am spending time with, whether it is in conversation with me or something said to another. Even if she and I are not in a relationship yet, I want to know how she is when she is unguarded. Not because her unguarded speech is an indication of whether or not she can be taught a different way of speaking ... anyone can be, if they desire it... but because it is an indication of her underlying nature. A very tell-tale clue that becomes all the more telling the longer it is observed without anything ever being said about it. ~q.s.~ quote:
Does anyone have specific things they did to learn to moderate their voice and "curb the enthusiasm"? I'm very enthusiastic, even after 23 years of practice, of the good that chiropractic and other natural forms of health care can do. I had a patient tell me early on that when I get going about topics like these that my voice tends to become louder and I tend to run on. With some people, this can lead to their being turned off the subject rather than being caught up in it...not what I want. So, I've learned to temper the enthusiasm, using it for specific points, rather than the entire monologue. Does A/anyone think it's a problem to gesture while speaking? As long as it's not excessive, no. I talk with my hands...a lot. As a dominant, I have a problem with aggressive hand actions by a submissive and would have a larger one with my submissive. quote:
anyone been directed to talk sitting on their hands? I've never had to tell a submissive to sit on their hands, no. I have had one do it on her own though. ~smiles~ quote:
What about profanity? Is it allowed sometimes? Never? Un-Restricted? I have restrictions on the use of a profanity. They involve time and place and content and purpose. I am not big on the use of profanity in everyday conversation. It cheapens conversation, in my opinion. I use it and I try to do so when it will be most effective. Like many things in life, it is most effective when not found in every sentence and when used at a specific time. To me, it is much more enticing and means so much more when a submissive walks up to me and whispers in my ear, "Sir, I really want you to fuck me" when I am not hearing "fuck" out of her mouth every 5 or 10 or 15 or 30 minutes. quote:
(Common sense reigns here, obviously i don't mean flipping the finger at church for "gesturing" or spouting the F-word at clerks in Wal-Mart.) You may not have meant it but I have met and seen women in action at this. I don't want to hijack this thread but seeing this reminds me again that the world is not as genteel as it used to be...I know there are those that say that "Yeah, but it's more real". To those, I would have to ask, "Does real always mean more crude?" {quote]Okies! let er rip. Spout on about all our issues with the tongue! Good post, Mavis! I really enjoyed thinking about it as I answered.
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