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RE: Respect - 9/17/2006 7:21:07 AM   
DivaDuchess


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For Us, it is a symbol like stated before ... the wedding ring.  It deserves respect just as the wedding ring should (at times is not) ... to Sinergy ... block the idiot and then report him so he cannot disrespect someone elses relationship.  My advise for what it's worth.

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RE: Respect - 9/17/2006 7:48:50 AM   
Mavis


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eyes,  ok, just checking!   Sorry to be too quick to assume otherwise, i think i react because of the frequency with which i run into that, i've go to stop doing that!  

thanks :) 

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RE: Respect - 9/17/2006 9:15:48 AM   
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I take respect to mean that when we are in the D/s mode that we are true to the concept. There is something that can be said for that. I wouldn’t mock it because to do so is to denigrate a system we find comfort in. We all spend enough time here for it to mean something.

The other respect about honoring others’ relationships seems valid in all social groups. If a woman is in a relationship of any kind that she is happy being in, it is bad manners, plain and simple, for others to try to weaken it.

As far as subs getting rude mail, I think that is easily handled with ignoring and blocking if necessary. These people want humiliation in many cases and if you just don’t respond, they don’t get it. The other kind is trying to get any kind of conversation going as a way to start things. When someone asked me to say something to a guy emailing her, I asked her what I could possibly do that she couldn’t?

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RE: Respect - 9/17/2006 9:46:18 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: ExSteelAgain

As far as subs getting rude mail, I think that is easily handled with ignoring and blocking if necessary. These people want humiliation in many cases and if you just don’t respond, they don’t get it. The other kind is trying to get any kind of conversation going as a way to start things. When someone asked me to say something to a guy emailing her, I asked her what I could possibly do that she couldn’t?


That is your approach and I respect your approach...

I get so many emails that if my Dom responded to them all he would indeed be a busy guy. I do not respond to any of them. I have been told that I am not to block anyone, because you are right, no one can affect me emotionally unless I allow it... which I do not.

We have protocol set up for this situation, ours is different from yours, one is not better than another.Someone that repeatedly emails me gets a response asking them not to, and then if they keep it up my Dom requests them to leave me alone... especially if this person lives nearby.. and he does.

I have not been in the habit about making threads complaining about doms that email me, nor do I inform my Daddy of every email I get, nor does he check my emails. I have chuckled a time or two... this was actually the first time in so many months I have asked him to email someone... and while it was not absolutely necessary, I am not allowed to be rude to dominants, even if they are self proclaimed ones. Instead of being rude and instead of writing a biting comment or two I let Daddy handle it, because following his rules is more important than the temporary satisfaction of calling someone a wannabe assbite.

Now it is not mine to question why Daddy likes things the way he does, it is my task to follow the rules the way he has them set up. He knows my ability to be sharped tongued and stand up for myself... for all I know he may desire me to rely more on him for these things, or that I keep my razor sharp claws to myself more....smiles. I know that since I have been following his lead, things tend to roll off my back more than they used to.

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RE: Respect - 9/17/2006 10:19:27 AM   
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Respect is an interesting thing...   Take two ppl for example, or lets say 3.  2 of the 3 ppl might not taking something as disrespectful, but the 3rd may take it highly disrespectful.   Such is life i suppose.  Though, sometimes, when you dont know some one - you never know what they'll find respectful or not.  It is an unfortunate occurance.  The only way - i try and deal with something is to tell offended parties sorry and then try and go on my merry way of making situations turn to good.  Though, sometimes it can be difficult.  Especially if one party is mistaken for some one else and no matter how much another party say "hey you got it wrong"  Sometimes offended parties just take things waaaaaay too seriously and internally.  ::sigh::  Then what do you do, if one would like to clear things up - but they're not allowed to speak to the other party?  It can be difficult. 

And sometimes, ppl walk right into the middle of a mess.  hmmmmmmm like - say some one JUST found out about something their sub did, majorly and highly wrong and then another party comes along and makes a silly remark... ::sigh:: i suppose it can be unpleasant eh?  Sometimes i think, when ppl get offended and there isnt much you can do about it, is to just wait for things to pan out because - when no disrespect is intended, it generally comes out in time.  The truth always comes out.  So whether you are the offendee or the offender, or just a party trying to clear things up - sometimes all you have to do is sit back and wait for the truth to come out. 

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RE: Respect - 9/17/2006 10:35:10 AM   
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I have two ways of seeing a collar.
I have respect for both as they are equally important.
They are both treated with respect and kept clean and in good condition.

One is the session collar...I put it on/off and it symbolizes the beginning/end of the session and sets the frame of mind.

Two is the Ownership collar,I see this as a symbol of a deeper devotion much like a Wedding ring.Its never taken off except for cleaning,the respect is also deeper
as it really signifies that one belongs to Another.

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RE: Respect - 9/17/2006 1:38:41 PM   
ayasha


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Very good point, thank you. 

quote:

ORIGINAL: Sirandlittle1
So although ayasha points out its the Master/Mistress that would have respect, id like to say, that i seem to feel mutual respect for the fellow sub/slave.
littleone

quote:

ORIGINAL: ayasha
one doesn't respect objects, per se.  It is the Master/Mistress that would have the respect

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RE: Respect - 9/17/2006 2:58:16 PM   
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Julia, I understand. Sure there are different dynamics to every situation. I'm not belittling the way you guys handled it. I'm giving you my perspective. Actually, even CE doesn't agree with me because she wants me to send tough emails to those types. So maybe my way is not best, but I do have this gut feeling about all the dynamics.

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RE: Respect - 9/17/2006 8:44:40 PM   
KnightofMists


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Respect to the Collar simply means to me...Respect the Relationship!  This doesn't mean that we bow to the collar your put the collar in a scared place for worship.  For the Collar is not the Relationship... it just symbolizes the Relationship. 

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RE: Respect - 9/17/2006 9:13:42 PM   
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I liken a collar to a ring. A ring can be worn as an accessory or as a symbol of commitment. I think it is fine for each person to define what the collar means to that person.

I try to be respectful to people in general. Respecting a collar that symbolizes a committed relationship is effectively respect for the relationship, which reduces to respect for people. I think respect for people is the more fundamental idea.

Cheers,

Sea

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RE: Respect - 9/18/2006 2:39:04 AM   
mons


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riotgirl greetings
i found that most important is respect for other and onesslef i give respect to all here unless i am shown no respect i have it here i never recieve a repy that was mean or unkind this is becasue not only do i respect the masters, doms dommes and slaves submissive because each and everyone here should recive respect oh this collar thing you all slave know you need to respect this this goes with out saying you know this you should be address the people here all with repsect not one person should get ir more then aoother you should respect you masters over us but not be disrepcst to others.
 
i understand your collars means a great deal to all who have one but simple as i can say it respect should be given to all who deserve it some who are rude will of course no respect for them but i have not ran into anyone here who is like this.
 
now respect you collar and other too
 
 





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RE: Respect - 9/18/2006 7:40:59 AM   
Nimkii


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Respect can be either important to people or not. thoose of us who take the higher path and are more old guard in thinking, its all about respect. there are lines you do not cross over unless you have gone through the proper channels.

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