Castro Mobilizing Miltary Against Potential US Invasion

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Daddy4UdderSlut -> Castro Mobilizing Miltary Against Potential US Invasion (8/18/2006 7:35:03 PM)
quote: In his first public declaration as acting president, Raul Castro said he has mobilized tens of thousands reservists and militia to defend Cuba against a potential U.S. threat. "We could not rule out the risk of somebody going crazy, or even crazier, within the U.S. government" he said in an interview Friday in the Communist Party newspaper Granma. LOL I kind of like that crack [:D]

popeye1250 -> RE: Castro Mobilizing Miltary Against Potential US Invasion (8/18/2006 7:45:02 PM)
Yeah, I'd be real worried that we invade a third world shit bag country like Cuba.

SirKenin -> RE: Castro Mobilizing Miltary Against Potential US Invasion (8/18/2006 7:47:34 PM)
Does Cuba have oil?? [:D]

Daddy4UdderSlut -> RE: Castro Mobilizing Miltary Against Potential US Invasion (8/18/2006 7:52:58 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: popeye1250 Yeah, I'd be real worried that we invade a third world shit bag country like Cuba. I don't think it will happen - as he said "even crazier"... but we've done stranger things... and with a record there of one invasion attempt under JFK, and what are estimated to be hundreds of assasination attempts by the CIA, and a crippling 40+ year embargo to try to overthrow the regime... I could see why they might think the US would invade when they saw weakness...

popeye1250 -> RE: Castro Mobilizing Miltary Against Potential US Invasion (8/18/2006 10:26:42 PM)
Daddy, why would we want to? So we can send back all the Cuban "refugees?" Once Castro goes a LOT of people in S. Florida are going to have to start packing their bags as they won't have any further claim to "refugee" status anymore!

meatcleaver -> RE: Castro Mobilizing Miltary Against Potential US Invasion (8/18/2006 11:45:35 PM)
Popeye, the USA has had a forty eight year irrational foreign policy towards Cuba. Even sane Presidents appear to lose their sanity when Cuba is involved, with a nut in charge of the Whitehouse, who knows?

popeye1250 -> RE: Castro Mobilizing Miltary Against Potential US Invasion (8/19/2006 12:48:38 AM)
Meat, it isn't "neccessary" that the U.S. have any dealings with Cuba. They don't produce anything that we need.

reversecuckold -> RE: Castro Mobilizing Miltary Against Potential US Invasion (8/19/2006 12:54:36 AM)
How about considering the misery that we have contributed to for the average Cuban civilian. Or is it that the only people we should have compassion for are those that "have something we need"? A forty year embargo has done as much if not more to making their lives hell as Castro has.

seeksfemslave -> RE: Castro Mobilizing Miltary Against Potential US Invasion (8/19/2006 1:00:39 AM)
While I agree that US Foreign Policy attitudes to Cuba are so pathetic as to be laughable you have got to ask the question why is it that the centrally organised and tightly politically controlled Cuba has failed to produce the goods for itself. Likewise Rumania, Bulgaria, East Germany etc etc etc Lets not mention Africa. Its NOT trade, these nations barely subsist relative to Western "freer" NOTE THE QUOTES countries.

NorthernGent -> RE: Castro Mobilizing Miltary Against Potential US Invasion (8/19/2006 3:11:52 AM)
I can't comment on Cuba but in terms of Rumania and Bulgaria the causes of their inability to compete stretch well beyond 50 years of communism. You can trace this back to the fact industrialisation largely passed them by and they have remained agricultural countries. There are a whole host of reasons with the meain two being available resources and religion - these were the two driving forces behind industrialisation in Britain. In terms of East Germany, well, it's a different story and not as obvious as it may seem. You have to remember the economic recovery in West Germany was fuelled by the investment of US cash - without this it would never have happened. The Germans obviously did not have the capability to develop their economy for obvious reasons - they were dependent on outside intervention. Africa is a different story again. They simply are not allowed to compete in their staple industries through Western Government subsidies. Africa needs a hand which should be obvious to everyone and it's not happening because exploitation of African resources suits the West down to the ground. So, it's certainly not a one size fits all. I noticed your "freer" comment - it's open to debate whether or not we enjoy more freedom than other parts of the world. Regards

ScooterTrash -> RE: Castro Mobilizing Miltary Against Potential US Invasion (8/19/2006 4:09:42 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SirKenin Does Cuba have oil?? [:D] Nope..but if we invade..I want to get my order in for some cigars early.

seeksfemslave -> RE: Castro Mobilizing Miltary Against Potential US Invasion (8/19/2006 1:16:22 PM)
Northern Gent...Just wondered what were the obvious reasons that stopped West Germany redeveloping their economy. The same as those that stopped Japan ? With regard to Africa it is NOT the WEST that stops them devoloping. It is their own corrupt governments. It may be true that if they could trade more agricultural products they could develop quicker, not likely though, but nothing whatsoever is stopping them rising above the less than subsistance level at which they exist but THEMSELVES. Expect an announcement quite soon by Robert Mugabe that Tony Blair and George Bush forced him to f**k up the agricultural production in his home land. See Zimbabwe and I now notice with regard to land redistribution South Africa is starting to go down the same disastrous path.

NorthernGent -> RE: Castro Mobilizing Miltary Against Potential US Invasion (8/19/2006 1:20:28 PM)
SFS, Yeah, that is a fair point about Japan and Germany. The one distinction I would make is that Germany was flattened and left in a worse state than Japan. The proof is in the pudding and West Germany recovered because of the investment of US cash to act as a buffer against Communism. Regards

NorthernGent -> RE: Castro Mobilizing Miltary Against Potential US Invasion (8/19/2006 1:24:45 PM)
SFS, That really is well wide of the mark on Africa. They can only industrialise by having a market for their products and they just don't have that market because of the insistence of the US and sections of the EU that they subsidise their agricultural industries. As a result there is no significant cash to invest in infrastructure etc. They can't just magic something out of thin air - they need cash for investment and they can only get this cash by taking advantage of the areas they have a competitive advantage (and this is being denied to them by Governments refusing to adhere to the principles of fair trade). Regards

seeksfemslave -> RE: Castro Mobilizing Miltary Against Potential US Invasion (8/19/2006 1:31:02 PM)
Northern gent.. Tokyo was decimated by conventional bombing. Not counting Nagasaki or Hiroshima. Naaaagh Africa is a basket case, no amount of bleeding heart Liberalism will change that, in fact it will probably prolong the suffering. If they had any sense at all they would invite the Brits back. I mean those Brits who still have a non PC 19th century attititude. Those who can add wealth...not redistribute it.

WyrdRich -> RE: Castro Mobilizing Miltary Against Potential US Invasion (8/19/2006 1:31:24 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SirKenin Does Cuba have oil?? [:D] Actually, they do. Same offshore fields we aren't allowed to draw from anymore. And they have contracts with China to do further exploration. Guess the birds are shit outta luck huh?

NorthernGent -> RE: Castro Mobilizing Miltary Against Potential US Invasion (8/19/2006 1:37:43 PM)
SFS, Much of Germany was flattened and as said West and East Germany just can't be compared due to one side having a shed load of cash injected. One man's bleeding heart Liberalism, another man's common sense. Yeah we were great, we basically raped their resources and brutally surpressed any opposition to this and those that remained maintained the inequality well into the 20th century - I'm sure they'd love to have us back. Regards

seeksfemslave -> RE: Castro Mobilizing Miltary Against Potential US Invasion (8/19/2006 3:11:00 PM)
As far as I know the US did not give anything to Germany after the War. They lent dollars at advantagous rates to Germany, believing correctly that the Germans had the innate skills to generate increased output. The Marshall Plan was not idealistic at all but a very shrewd self interested policy of the Truman administration and its advisors. US had the capacity to produce thegoods. Noone had the resources to buy said goods. Sounds like a bit of sensible planning that US claims to be so dead against. You could give any Bongo Bongo land you care to mention any amount of financial aid and its most unlikely that much of any value would result. With regard to Castro...what can I say...we have hijacked the thread lol

NorthernGent -> RE: Castro Mobilizing Miltary Against Potential US Invasion (8/19/2006 3:25:32 PM)
SFS, Yes, I have shamelessly hijacked the thread as I know absolutely nothing about Cuba. I'll go back to chatting about garden implements on other threads. As you were Ladies and Gents. Regards

meatcleaver -> RE: Castro Mobilizing Miltary Against Potential US Invasion (8/19/2006 5:16:48 PM)
Africa will not benefit from a latter day Marshall plan becauase it doesn't have the industrial skills and base of Germany and Japan, who already had the pumps which just needed priming. Africa doesn't even have the basic skills of a third rate industrial economy. However, what Africa does need is fair trade and that is something the west won't give Africa because of some mystical need by the US and the EU to subsidise their farmers. If the west allowed fair trade, they wouldn't have to give Africa food aid and Africa could even earn money from agricultural trade but the west has stopped believing in fair trade because it is no longer to their advantage.

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