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How to expose fakes? thoughts - 8/10/2006 1:12:45 PM   
Owned1


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Status: offline 		I saw on someones profile in the blog area an explanation of an interaction with someone who turned out to be fake. 

Do you think this is something we should be doing?  Would this assist in preventing those who string along honest people from continuing in their games?

Do you think the potential would just be a place to flame someone who did not do/say/act the way you wanted them to?  (such as scorned lovers)

I would love to hear thoughts and ideas about this.

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RE: How to expose fakes? thoughts - 8/10/2006 1:21:03 PM   
KnightofMists


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Status: offline 		so what is a fake? is there a univesal truth here?

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RE: How to expose fakes? thoughts - 8/10/2006 1:22:37 PM   
Dnomyar


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Status: offline 		If you find that a person is a fake move on. Life is to short to waste any more energy on garbage.

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RE: How to expose fakes? thoughts - 8/10/2006 1:23:47 PM   
Rule


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Status: offline 		Do you propose to expose fakes in blogs on the other side? (I find it difficult to extract meaning from your text.)
 
Look, how many people would read those exposees? Who guarantees that the exposees are truthful?
Wouldn't the fakers simply close down their exposed profile and start a new one?
 
Grow up. This is the internet. These are merely letters on a screen and I am merely a figment of your imagination. This is not the real world. If you can profit from it in any way, then do so, but do not be gullible.
 
Simply block and move on.

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RE: How to expose fakes? thoughts - 8/10/2006 1:25:24 PM   
zumala


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Status: offline 		As in many things, the old phrase "Time will tell" works here.  Sometimes someone is obviously what you are not looking for.  Other times, you may have to talk to them for a little while before you realize that.  It's the same for any relationship.  You need time spent before trust can be built and maintained.
 
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RE: How to expose fakes? thoughts - 8/10/2006 1:26:34 PM   
raiken


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Status: offline 		Define the type of person that seems fake to you.  In every profile, behind the words, there is always a minutia of truth if nothing else, else the folks wouldn't bother themselves at all.  Each profile is written by a real person, and some with a great many issues, some with deep pain, some with angry motives, some are just horny ole bastards, some are desperately needy, some just wanna have fun and meet others, some want to intentionally hurt, use and abuse others, etc., but it is their truth, evren if they do not reveal it in their words.  The only sure and tried thing that works best is to go with what your gut tells you, and use the delete key for the rest.

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RE: How to expose fakes? thoughts - 8/10/2006 1:29:46 PM   
LuckyAlbatross


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Status: offline 		There have been multiple threads and discussions on every bdsm boards about the use of "bad dom lists"

Quite simply, they are pointless and only brought up by doms who want to make like knights in armor or scorned subs who want to publicly humiliate someone.

There's absolutely no standard in the world which would make any list have merit, no screening system which could be reliable and no reason to even begin to do so.

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RE: How to expose fakes? thoughts - 8/10/2006 1:30:21 PM   
onestandingstill


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Status: offline 		Pointing fingers at fakers in a public forum  in my opinion leaves the finger pointer looking petty, immature and childish.
The only point I'd bash someone by name in a public forum for their actions(no matter how much of a loser they are) would be if I saw a sub face to face that ask me about him as she's considering him.
Other than that what benefits do you get from ruining someones reputation?
I say live and let live. Who decided this basher's way was the right true way to do things anyway? Maybe for her it was correct, but for the one she bashed they thought their actions were correct too.

I say if you have issues with someone discuss it with them privately and in a respectful way & you can respect yourself. Idle chatter that serves no one anything good is pointless.

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RE: How to expose fakes? thoughts - 8/10/2006 1:30:27 PM   
zenofeller


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Status: offline 		as i understand, the policy on this board is "no criticism of others" because it has been judged that the potential benefit of forwarning potential victims is far outweighed by the potential damage of giving all the drama-heads a weapon. i can stand by that judgement.

and basically, if you need to ask this, you're a drama queen, and we don't like you.

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RE: How to expose fakes? thoughts - 8/10/2006 1:39:52 PM   
DelRey


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Status: offline 		Yeah, that is what this board needs, a place to out someone, start some B.S., and or just throw shit against a wall for someone else to come to some common sense to decide if it plausible or a load of crap..... Yeah that would be real good, then all the site owner would have to do is clean things up so the under age 18 adolescent could come in and play too... LMAO.   I think the previous posts have it. Just keep encouraging people to grow up and be adults. Let it be known that this is not the place for child play.

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RE: How to expose fakes? thoughts - 8/10/2006 1:59:26 PM   
gandalf0297


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Status: offline 		I have done a previoous post about this subject before. the bottom line is its YOUR responability to weed out the fakes and flakes. often times during prolonged talks you get a feel for what is right and what is not. if it dosent feel right its usually not. but bottom line.
Its up to you.

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RE: How to expose fakes? thoughts - 8/10/2006 2:08:37 PM   
amayos


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Owned1

I saw on someones profile in the blog area an explanation of an interaction with someone who turned out to be fake.

Do you think this is something we should be doing? Would this assist in preventing those who string along honest people from continuing in their games?

Do you think the potential would just be a place to flame someone who did not do/say/act the way you wanted them to? (such as scorned lovers)

I would love to hear thoughts and ideas about this.

Owned




I feel we all should rely upon the tools of our own human understanding and hone them accordingly. There are many ways of calling a con's bluff. Verifying addresses and phone numbers before spending too much time on some abstract internet personality is never a bad idea. In the end, time, patience and penetrating conversation will favor the reality of who is on the other end.

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RE: How to expose fakes? thoughts - 8/10/2006 2:32:03 PM   
sub4hire


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Owned1

I saw on someones profile in the blog area an explanation of an interaction with someone who turned out to be fake. 

Do you think this is something we should be doing?  Would this assist in preventing those who string along honest people from continuing in their games?

Do you think the potential would just be a place to flame someone who did not do/say/act the way you wanted them to?  (such as scorned lover


How would you know someone is a fake?  As opposed to someone just throwing stones because they did not get their way?
I run a pretty successful BDSM group.  I am a member of the largest in the country..and a friend to more than one of those board members. 
Yet, I sat down about a year ago with an acquaintance and he asked me if Doug and I play outside of our relationship.  We both said no.  He then told us we had no reason to be in the lifestyle at all if we were not going to be promiscuous. 
We were both branded a fake yet we live the lifestyle in a power exchange situation daily together.

We took it with a grain of salt.  That is what his view of the lifestyle is.  It doesn't mean it has to be ours. 
I was fake because I chose not to play with an individual.  That is how rumor's get started sometimes. 
So take it for what it is worth.  If you are seriously considering it to be true I'd do some background research before forming my own conclusion.

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RE: How to expose fakes? thoughts - 8/10/2006 2:40:51 PM   
juliaoceania


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Status: offline 		I do not pay any attention to someone "outing" another for bad behavior over the internet. In fact I do not pay much attention to people outing another in real life too. I tend to listen to my own instincts about people. Benjamin Franklin never said an ill word about anyone (Im not so lilly white but I surely respect this way of being).

Anyone can slam another, and no one knows what happens between others unless they were present for every exchange. I guess that is why I found a recent thread so tacky here on CM, because it aired private emailed information from only one side, and we hardly know what really happened because of one side of the story, and it listed real screen names in the OP. I find such behavior dispicable, and I am not likely to believe people who do such things...

Just me, could be mistaken.

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RE: How to expose fakes? thoughts - 8/10/2006 2:43:57 PM   
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Anyone who claims others as fakes - is more fake to me.
One persons fake is another persons fancy.
 
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RE: How to expose fakes? thoughts - 8/10/2006 2:47:25 PM   
FelinePersuasion


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Status: offline 		These faker lists have been prposed half a dozen times, no their not good idea's no they wouldn't help any one. yes they would be used as back stabbing I am bitchy with you so i malign your good name.

And lastly such lists are against collar me's TOS.

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RE: How to expose fakes? thoughts - 8/10/2006 3:01:55 PM   
Homestead


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RE: How to expose fakes? thoughts - 8/10/2006 3:22:01 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Owned1

I saw on someones profile in the blog area an explanation of an interaction with someone who turned out to be fake. 


I would love to hear thoughts and ideas about this.

Owned


Hey owned1... and all

OhMyGaawd.... you mean the guy's a fake pervert?
A deceptive deviant?  A bogus buggerer ..  counterfieit cocksucker...
A spurious sadist in in our midst?

I seriously believe... (OK, not so seriously)
that there are places for bylaw-enforcement,
but the personal relationships of other people is not one of them.

Look, the parking in Hollywood is atrocious ... we need more ticketers,
and there are stray dogs and trannies without collars or tags
running all over West Hollywood, pissing on fire hydrants everywhere...

And in the outrage of the week,
California legislators are right this minute battling out a state law
that prevents dogs from being tied up more than 3 hours a day.
It made the front page of LA Times B1 section today.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-tether10aug10,1,7753948.story?ctrack=1&cset=true

Anti-dog-bondage workers of the world unite!

Now there's a place for folks with the soul
of a bylaw-enforcement officer.

DD

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RE: How to expose fakes? thoughts - 8/10/2006 4:34:31 PM   
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RE: How to expose fakes? thoughts - 8/10/2006 4:41:37 PM   
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