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RE: Experiencing the Other Side - 7/26/2006 7:56:45 PM

MasterFireMaam

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What if being submissive isn't based on being on the receiving end of the toy or being used as a sexual plaything? What if it's based merely on service? Go be in service for a weekend to a Dominant/Master (gender neutral) you respect and see how it affects your head, especially if you can do it in (the appropriate) public. For me, it was a very worthwhile experience and I was happy to do it. It is an honor to serve your friends, not matter what your or their station is in life or kink. It didn't make me any less a Master. In fact, it reinforced that this is my path. I was VERY comfortable serving...I felt good in giving of myself and being rewarded for my efforts. Being a Master is much more challenging to me and so I feel that it is my true journey.

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I know Masters who have become slaves...and vice versa. Same with Dominants and submissives. Inside, they are still the same person, it's only their energy and/or heart that has changed.

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RE: Experiencing the Other Side - 7/26/2006 8:10:41 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: MasterFireMaam

What if being submissive isn't based on being on the receiving end of the toy or being used as a sexual plaything? What if it's based merely on service? Go be in service for a weekend to a Dominant/Master (gender neutral) you respect and see how it affects your head, especially if you can do it in (the appropriate) public. For me, it was a very worthwhile experience and I was happy to do it. It is an honor to serve your friends, not matter what your or their station is in life or kink. It didn't make me any less a Master. In fact, it reinforced that this is my path. I was VERY comfortable serving...I felt good in giving of myself and being rewarded for my efforts. Being a Master is much more challenging to me and so I feel that it is my true journey.

juliaoceania,
I know Masters who have become slaves...and vice versa. Same with Dominants and submissives. Inside, they are still the same person, it's only their energy and/or heart that has changed.

Master Fire

Being a housewife, I sort of have experienced this for 33 years. :)

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RE: Experiencing the Other Side - 7/26/2006 8:43:25 PM

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I started my bdsm journey trying to be a submissive .... and had one of the most amazing and deeply intense relationships of my life... but I think I started life as a dominant .... my journey as a submissive to my Mentor gave me so much in so many ways ... i learned so many things ... but they where my lessons ...my healings ... my enjoyments ... my dislikes ... my growth and understanding

I dont believe such allows me to understand specificaly what another submisive goes through ...

but it did teach me many skills .... ideas ... concepts .. it allowed me to understand myself so much better ....

and the more I understood myself ... experienced all sorts of healing and learning journeys..... the more skills I learned ... the more I knew how to hold and experience my own power ... the more I felt complete and secure in myself ..... anad this certainly allowed me to become more comforable in my own domiance and sadism
He is not the only person I learned from.... indeed every interaction .. holds some new lesson and learning
no I dont know what every submissive feels same as i dont know what every dominant feels ....and I dont think everyone can or should submit ..... but it was a great way for me to learn ... not necessarily for anyone else ... but for me it was the right way ... *smiles* ....

My Mentor will always hold a most special place in my heart and spirit .... and I feel very special to have had such a teacher and guide in my life

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RE: Experiencing the Other Side - 7/26/2006 9:30:29 PM

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i identify in the lifestyle as a slave. However, in my working life i am a Master. i have been identified as such by a subordinate employee who comes from a culture where the Master/student relationship is a very important one. For the longest time i felt uncomfortable with the title and i gently tried to discourage it. Eventually i came to the conclusion that i do have a mastery of certain valuable skills and i am always happy to share my knowledge, therefore the title is not unearned. Since it is work the Master label refers only to skills and my willingness to teach, not to the lifestyle in any way shape or form.

From this perspective i have experienced the other side. What i felt (and still feel) most heavily is the weight of the responsibility. i am seen as a role-model and my actions must be above reproach. i am proud that my knowledge is recognized and appreciated, but always acknowledge that there are many more things to learn. In that role i set the bar very high for myself. Since someone thought well enough of me to give me such a title, it is important for me to constantly strive to earn it.

i think in many ways my Master must feel the same way about his role/relationship to me.

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RE: Experiencing the Other Side - 7/26/2006 9:38:09 PM

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My partner has no exploratory curiousities about switching. Switching does intrigue me a bit, but I wonder about is corruptive influence on the "natural correct order of things." Would switching foul up a couple's DOMINANT AND SUBMISSIVE compasses? Might it beseige folks with a crippling sense of relativism? Might it introduce conflict in place of harmony?

I suppose it all depends, depends, depends.

I think LA makes a valid point saying, "being in a scene or serving AS the one without authority can be eye-opening and lend a lot of perspective to the person on all sides of the situation."

Also, a friend of mine from CM has pointed out that its easier for a submissive to switch than for a dominant, because the when the roles are reversed, its the DOM who has to experience the unpleasantness (bondage, loss of control, pain, etc) whereas as the sub merely gets to experience new freedom in a new role.

One thing I know about me. If I switched, I would try to do it my way --- I think mimicry would be a doomed project. Also, I would tailor what I did to her in particular.

The problem, of course, would be her not liking any of it. The next problem would be a short, pressure filled learning curve. Hence the neurotics that lead this post.

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RE: Experiencing the Other Side - 7/26/2006 9:53:47 PM

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I can't imagine wanting to experience the other side ...but for the sake of the argument, I think I could do some of the activities in a physical manner, but what I'd have difficulty with are the emotional components. I don't understand how Master always seems to hit on just the things to say or do. That's an innate part of who he is, and the part I don't think I could mimic. I'm not saying that it's not a mutual admiration society when it comes to our appreciation of the other's role, but neither of us can fathom walking in the other's shoes.

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