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hisforever -> RE: D versus s (7/24/2006 10:59:19 AM)

Good post!!!  I do not understand male subs and female dommes.  I just see the male species as a whole as a dominate one.  HOWEVER, I do not, do not, do NOT look down apon anyone, male, female, dom, sub.  They are who they are, and that is great that they have come to that realization!  So, understand it, no, respect them, hell yes.  I would never look down apon another person for being who they are.
P.S. As many of you have figured out, I am a horrible speller, so if I have miss-spelled anything, sorry I just suck at spelling always have LOL



dsalphabunny -> RE: D versus s (7/24/2006 11:09:42 AM)

i am curious if it goes the other way.  do all subs automatically 'look up' to Dom/mes of either sex?

i am new to the lifestyle, i guess, and i sometimes think i'm a little odd in my mindset.  is someone who claims Domhood automatically granted extra... respect... by subs?  should they be?

bunny



LuckyAlbatross -> RE: D versus s (7/24/2006 11:17:26 AM)

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ORIGINAL: dsalphabunny
i am new to the lifestyle, i guess, and i sometimes think i'm a little odd in my mindset.  is someone who claims Domhood automatically granted extra... respect... by subs?  should they be?

bunny

Some subs do, but it's certainly not a requirement.  A dom is just a dom.  Unless you have formed a particular relationship with them, it really doesn't mean anything in particular.



stef -> RE: D versus s (7/24/2006 11:28:47 AM)

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ORIGINAL: dsalphabunny

i am curious if it goes the other way.  do all subs automatically 'look up' to Dom/mes of either sex?

Um, no.  I respect the bottle brush next to my kitchen sink more than some "Dom/mes."

quote:

i am new to the lifestyle, i guess, and i sometimes think i'm a little odd in my mindset.  is someone who claims Domhood automatically granted extra... respect... by subs?  should they be?

No and hell no.

~stef



sub4hire -> RE: D versus s (7/24/2006 11:41:30 AM)

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ORIGINAL: dsalphabunny

i am curious if it goes the other way.  do all subs automatically 'look up' to Dom/mes of either sex?


bunny



I don't, though many see me as a dominant even though I've no desire to ever be like that.  I can safely say...I can dominate any dominant with the exception of 6 I've met in my entire life.
Meeting and knowing in real life of course.
It takes a very strong man to earn my respect and submission.



Vancouver_cinful -> RE: D versus s (7/24/2006 3:49:12 PM)

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ORIGINAL: dsalphabunny

i am curious if it goes the other way.  do all subs automatically 'look up' to Dom/mes of either sex?


A human being is a human being. Either I respect their humanity, or I don't. Whether they call themselves dominant, sadistic, masochistic or godzilla doesn't make any difference. I treat them individually depending on how they interact with me.



Slipstreme -> RE: D versus s (7/24/2006 3:57:55 PM)

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Do male dominants look down upon male submissives? Female down upon female?

This thought came to my mind while perusing some older threads; one male dominant admitted that when he sees a male submissive, he had the urge to tell them to get up off their knees.


No. To me, people are equals by the nature of being people. Plain and simple. What they choose to do with their life is their own decision, and their "occupational" or relationship status has no bearing in how I treat them.



Level -> RE: D versus s (7/24/2006 4:17:19 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Bearlee

Level, you identify as a switch; which I presume to mean you are sometimes submissive.  You seem to me to be one of the most ‘stand up’ guys on the boards, (strong, logical, masculine) so I can only imagine you must still be so regardless of which ‘mode’ you’re in.  I tend to think more about the person’s personality than which side(s) of the '/ '  they identify with.


bear


I appreciate the kind words, bearlee, but no, being a switch does not mean I'm "sometimes submissive" [sm=ofcourse.gif] ... we've spoken about that, I have bottomed before, but there is nothing submissive about it. [:D]



reticence -> RE: D versus s (7/24/2006 4:22:11 PM)

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I have bottomed before, but there is nothing submissive about it. [:D]



dang    *takes off domme boots and tries to think of another way to get Level's attention  (grin)



LotusSong -> RE: D versus s (7/24/2006 4:39:06 PM)

Please do not take offence to what I am going to post here. I’m answering the question honestly and telling my experience.  I have a tendency to be very direct, it’s just the most direct way to say what I want to say.  Just realize it is JUST my opinion and MY experience.

When it comes to submissives of my same gender, I know I do not acknowledge it. I don't think less of them, I just know how I was raised and if I WERE submissive, no big deal.  It's how I was raised in the 50’s-60.  Our main goal was to grow up and be good wives.

There were mannerisms that were taught to be becoming to a male.  Remember “charm school”?  (Yup, guys, there used to be schools that taught this seduction and manipulation)

I know when I started in this activity, I would session a few females and I had a surprisingly odd reaction. 

I had no energy exchange with them.  It was like I intentionally held back and a flogging became a beating.  They had a GREAT time, but I was left with a used feeling.  I felt almost ANGRY afterward.  Just my experience.  I learned that I do NOT relate to the female energy.  Probably something deep seated from childhood- who knows.  It was sort of “I know where you are going with that and you got all you are going to get” sort of thing.  Anyhow, THIS is why I do not play with females.  I don’t think that they should NOT enjoy submission; just don’t expect me to enjoy it with you.

And also, it has to be a very special personality of Domme I’d get along with too.

You guys, no matter what side of the whip you are on, I get along fine with you all.  I’d not prefer to submit to a Dom however.  I have done that and actually cam up feeling sick. Endorphins are not my drug of choice.  But I did try it – felt like I was crawling out of a hole afterward.  

I’m peculiar that way.



MrrPete -> RE: D versus s (7/24/2006 4:52:07 PM)

Now, really, how can I do anythhing else BUT look down on a male sub or a femsub considering they are usually on there knees or lower.[:)]

As I 've been reading the response I have to say sometimes I do feel a twinge of discomfort when I see a man submit. Especially when CBT is involved.
Although sometimes I'm facinated by it. I watched a Domme use 58 needles to pin a man to a butterfly board. I watched him go into subspace. Deep into subspace.
One thing you should know is that whatever I feel inside stays inside. If something discomforts me inside will never see the light of day because I know hwat I'm feeling is unreasonable.

I know one malesub that is the most masochistic pain slut I've ever seen. I don't care what you do to him he just gets a big grin on his face. You can get him to yell and scream but when he's done he smiles. I admire him.



Bearlee -> RE: D versus s (7/25/2006 11:14:43 AM)

 
awwwwwwwww Level.  I'm sorry.  I Top from time to time and piss of the guys cuz I don't have a dominant bone in my body!  As soon as I hit 'okay' I knew better.  I'm sorry, Sir...



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