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Real0ne -> Senator 60 Minutes- 9/11 Attackers Had “Support from Within the US” (4/12/2016 9:11:42 AM)
On Saturday, CBS News released a trailer for the episode and an accompanying article. Until now, anyone who questioned the highly suspect ‘official’ narrative on the 9/11 attacks has been labeled a conspiracy theorist or a kook. But when current and former members of Congress, U.S. officials, and the 9/11 Commissioners themselves call for the release of these 28-pages, which tells a different story of what happened that fateful day. http://thefreethoughtproject.com/senator-60-minutes-911-attackers-had-support-us/#wOKE1is3uPrXTDLP.99 Yep! Yesterdays tinfoil is today's reality! [sm=dance-smiley03.gif] and now both crookocratic parties are guilty of fraud and coverup!

Phydeaux -> RE: Senator 60 Minutes- 9/11 Attackers Had “Support from Within the US” (4/12/2016 11:30:56 AM)
Your articles says nothing of the sort. Tin foil people said the US knew of the attacks and helped in their execution. What Bob Graham is saying is that Saudi government officials, charities, and individuals, both in the US and abroad helped 9/11. One is not at all like the other.

BondageersT -> RE: Senator 60 Minutes- 9/11 Attackers Had “Support from Within the US” (4/12/2016 12:05:49 PM)
I FIND THIS TOPIC EXTREMELY BAD TASTE. 3000 PEOPLE DIED. GOD KNOWS HOW MANY AFFECTED.

mnottertail -> RE: Senator 60 Minutes- 9/11 Attackers Had “Support from Within the US” (4/12/2016 12:12:10 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Phydeaux Your articles says nothing of the sort. Tin foil people said the US knew of the attacks and helped in their execution. What Bob Graham is saying is that Saudi government officials, charities, and individuals, both in the US and abroad helped 9/11. One is not at all like the other. I don't think you will find many disagree with this.

Cinnamongirl67 -> RE: Senator 60 Minutes- 9/11 Attackers Had “Support from Within the US” (4/12/2016 12:35:34 PM)
Rest assured. If it was found anyone in our government had anything to do with this tragic event, their fate would be twice the torture received by the fabled Jesus Christ.

vincentML -> RE: Senator 60 Minutes- 9/11 Attackers Had “Support from Within the US” (4/12/2016 12:46:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BondageersT I FIND THIS TOPIC EXTREMELY BAD TASTE. 3000 PEOPLE DIED. GOD KNOWS HOW MANY AFFECTED. Jesus Christ on a bicycle. Hardly anything is in bad taste on this forum if you say it nicely. Put you hardhat on and stay tuned. Welcome to this board.

stef -> RE: Senator 60 Minutes- 9/11 Attackers Had “Support from Within the US” (4/12/2016 5:16:26 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: vincentML Jesus Christ on a bicycle. Hardly anything is in bad taste on this forum if you say it nicely. Put you hardhat on and stay tuned. Welcome to this board. Ignore him, he's a fucking idiot.

Real0ne -> RE: Senator 60 Minutes- 9/11 Attackers Had “Support from Within the US” (4/12/2016 6:01:34 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Phydeaux Your articles says nothing of the sort. Tin foil people said the US knew of the attacks and helped in their execution. What Bob Graham is saying is that Saudi government officials, charities, and individuals, both in the US and abroad helped 9/11. One is not at all like the other. BUT 911 was a monumental crime. By definition 'helped' in the commission of a crime IS a 'conspiracy'. So we need an strong reasoned explanation from you respecting my above point and why I should consider your opinion over that of a former intelligence operator who worked for the NSA. In addition the massive negligence and outright fraud surrounding the investigation and material evidence is overwhelming, but that aside, how did you conclude its all nice perfectly innocent? It appears it does say precisely what it claims!

Real0ne -> RE: Senator 60 Minutes- 9/11 Attackers Had “Support from Within the US” (4/12/2016 6:05:44 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Cinnamongirl67 Rest assured. If it was found anyone in our government had anything to do with this tragic event, their fate would be twice the torture received by the fabled Jesus Christ. You are thinking about some other gubmint, in the US they get promoted!

Real0ne -> RE: Senator 60 Minutes- 9/11 Attackers Had “Support from Within the US” (4/12/2016 6:24:40 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BondageersT I FIND THIS TOPIC EXTREMELY BAD TASTE. 3000 PEOPLE DIED. GOD KNOWS HOW MANY AFFECTED. So I bet you really hate talking about world war 2 where between 50 to 80 million died? check this out its just a conspiracy theory, isnt it? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuC_4mGTs98

JVoV -> RE: Senator 60 Minutes- 9/11 Attackers Had “Support from Within the US” (4/12/2016 7:23:52 PM)
Most of the 9/11 terrorists had been in the US for quite some time beforehand. 15 of them were Saudi nationals. 0 were citizens of Iraq or Afghanistan, the countries we invaded in retaliation. I'd suspect that nothing in these 28 pages implicate an American citizen, but likely would name more Saudis. But why now?

Termyn8or -> RE: Senator 60 Minutes- 9/11 Attackers Had “Support from Within the US” (4/12/2016 7:33:54 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BondageersT I FIND THIS TOPIC EXTREMELY BAD TASTE. 3000 PEOPLE DIED. GOD KNOWS HOW MANY AFFECTED. So what. Another thing, did it occur to you that ALOT more than 3,000 people worked in those buildings ? Who told them to take the day off ? And do you remember that the owner of those buildings had recently doubled the insurance on them and tried to collect twice ? And did you know that those "students" dancing around on that nearby rooftop with the camera were Israeli ? (they got deported, I would have sent them to Gitmo for some "enhanced interrogation" but there was no Gitmo yet) Do you also realize that a bunch of 911 responders got caught filing fake disability claims ? One of them supposedly unable to work teaching martial arts down in Florida ? You want bad taste there is plenty of it to go around, and plenty of well deserved suspicion. And also in poor taste is that they call it a defense budget and it costs a half a fucking trillion dollars a year that we do not have, and defend a bunch of other countries but not the US. With that much money, this country should have been impenetrable. Were they complicit or incompetent ? It is one or the other. You can't fly a Cessna without a flight plan or the FAA is on your ass immediately in case you got some pot on board. What's more, who does all the bombing and attacking and regime changing and dictator supporting ? That is not a defense budget, that is an offense budget. What's more, it was used as an excuse to attack Iraq when the real reason is that Saddam was switching over to the euro and dropping the dollar, and had BILLIONs of USDs with which to flood the market. AND, 3,000 people don't mean shit. One hundred times that many die by medical mistakes. We are not talking about people on their death beds here, we are talking about wrong drugs, dosages and procedures. And cops shoot more people than anyone else, ALOT more than 3,000 every fucking year. Bad taste ? Stick it up your ass. T^T

MrRodgers -> RE: Senator 60 Minutes- 9/11 Attackers Had “Support from Within the US” (4/12/2016 8:23:11 PM)
Doesn't matter what's in those 28 pages. There will never be a grand jury. There will never be any real investigation and there will never be any trial of any alleged conspirators. Furthermore, as far as I am concerned, most of the redaction and secrecy withing our govt. records...hides US complicity or outright embarrassment and absolutely nothing has been done ever with respect to any truly high ranking FBI or CIA official for anything they've done. All I've ever seen if anything, is mid and low level scape goats like abu ghraib for one obvious case. Colby may be the exception when he was found dead shortly after testifying in congress before the Church committee. There's your examples of our clandestine govt. The American people some time ago, were all done knowing just what our govt. does behind and often in front of the 'scenes' where such ops and killings are executed.

DesideriScuri -> RE: Senator 60 Minutes- 9/11 Attackers Had “Support from Within the US” (4/13/2016 12:42:04 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: JVoV Most of the 9/11 terrorists had been in the US for quite some time beforehand. 15 of them were Saudi nationals. 0 were citizens of Iraq or Afghanistan, the countries we invaded in retaliation. I'd suspect that nothing in these 28 pages implicate an American citizen, but likely would name more Saudis. But why now? Were we at war with France during WWII? We didn't go into Afghanistan because Afghanistan attacked us. No "Country" attacked us. We went into Afghanistan because that's where al Qaeda was. The Taliban were taken down because they wouldn't allow us to go after al Qaeda in their country, and they wouldn't hand over bin Laden. Saudi Arabia didn't attack us. As far as Iraq goes, the stated reasons were the wrong reasons to go in (regardless of whether or not they were lies). Had the basis been made that we went into Iraq to depose Saddam for violation of the Persian Gulf War cease fire, we'd have had the authority to do so. Simply claiming Saddam had WMD's and that he would use them isn't enough. Do we think Iran would attack us or allies? Does Iran have WMD's? Can we attack Iran? What about North Korea? Syria? Russia? Iraq AUMF quote: The resolution cited many factors as justifying the use of military force against Iraq: Iraq's noncompliance with the conditions of the 1991 ceasefire agreement, including interference with U.N. weapons inspectors. Iraq "continuing to possess and develop a significant chemical and biological weapons capability" and "actively seeking a nuclear weapons capability" posed a "threat to the national security of the United States and international peace and security in the Persian Gulf region." Iraq's "brutal repression of its civilian population." Iraq's "capability and willingness to use weapons of mass destruction against other nations and its own people". Iraq's hostility towards the United States as demonstrated by the 1993 assassination attempt on former President George H. W. Bush and firing on coalition aircraft enforcing the no-fly zones following the 1991 Gulf War. Members of al-Qaeda, an organization bearing responsibility for attacks on the United States, its citizens, and interests, including the attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, are known to be in Iraq. Iraq's "continu[ing] to aid and harbor other international terrorist organizations," including anti-United States terrorist organizations. Iraq paid bounty to families of suicide bombers. The efforts by the Congress and the President to fight terrorists, and those who aided or harbored them. The authorization by the Constitution and the Congress for the President to fight anti-United States terrorism. The governments in Turkey, Kuwait, and Saudi Arabia feared Saddam and wanted him removed from power. Citing the Iraq Liberation Act of 1998, the resolution reiterated that it should be the policy of the United States to remove the Saddam Hussein regime and promote a democratic replacement. The resolution "supported" and "encouraged" diplomatic efforts by President George W. Bush to "strictly enforce through the U.N. Security Council all relevant Security Council resolutions regarding Iraq" and "obtain prompt and decisive action by the Security Council to ensure that Iraq abandons its strategy of delay, evasion, and noncompliance and promptly and strictly complies with all relevant Security Council resolutions regarding Iraq." The resolution authorized President Bush to use the Armed Forces of the United States "as he determines to be necessary and appropriate" in order to "defend the national security of the United States against the continuing threat posed by Iraq; and enforce all relevant United Nations Security Council Resolutions regarding Iraq." I don't agree with all the justifications. I don't agree that some of the "justifications" actually justify going to war. There was bipartisan passage of the AUMF, even though lawmakers had access to much of the same intelligence as the President (the President's claim that they had the same intel as he, was not completely factual, as he had access to more thorough and sensitive information than lawmakers usually get).

Termyn8or -> RE: Senator 60 Minutes- 9/11 Attackers Had “Support from Within the US” (4/13/2016 3:58:26 AM)
Des, we had no fucking business doing that. What if they did that to us ? OHHHH THAT IS DIFFERENT Right ? That what you're saying. And don't start this they attacked us shit, we attacked them first. T^T

Phydeaux -> RE: Senator 60 Minutes- 9/11 Attackers Had “Support from Within the US” (4/13/2016 7:57:09 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne quote: ORIGINAL: Phydeaux Your articles says nothing of the sort. Tin foil people said the US knew of the attacks and helped in their execution. What Bob Graham is saying is that Saudi government officials, charities, and individuals, both in the US and abroad helped 9/11. One is not at all like the other. BUT 911 was a monumental crime. By definition 'helped' in the commission of a crime IS a 'conspiracy'. So we need an strong reasoned explanation from you respecting my above point and why I should consider your opinion over that of a former intelligence operator who worked for the NSA. In addition the massive negligence and outright fraud surrounding the investigation and material evidence is overwhelming, but that aside, how did you conclude its all nice perfectly innocent? It appears it does say precisely what it claims! Reread my previous response. Listen to Senator Graham yourself. In no case does he say members of the US government colluded in the attack.

Phydeaux -> RE: Senator 60 Minutes- 9/11 Attackers Had “Support from Within the US” (4/13/2016 8:00:12 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri I don't agree with all the justifications. I don't agree that some of the "justifications" actually justify going to war. There was bipartisan passage of the AUMF, even though lawmakers had access to much of the same intelligence as the President (the President's claim that they had the same intel as he, was not completely factual, as he had access to more thorough and sensitive information than lawmakers usually get). Desi, as far as I am aware, in the specific case of the Iraq war, the house and senate intelligence committees received and got access to the exact same data. The same analysts that briefed the president were made available etc. It was one of the preconditions of the vote.

mnottertail -> RE: Senator 60 Minutes- 9/11 Attackers Had “Support from Within the US” (4/13/2016 8:32:56 AM)
That has been repeatedly debunked, by senior intel officials with names. White House had access to intelligence assessments such as the Presidential Daily Briefing (PDB) that Congress never was able to review, and the administration failed to provide lawmakers with certain dissenting views within the intelligence community. The administration also received information directly from two alternative intelligence sources that were doubted by the Intelligence Community at the time and have since been discredited: The Office of Special Plans and Iraqi National Congress. Even among the intelligence that Congress did ultimately receive, most lawmakers did not see a full assessment of the Iraqi threat prior to the delivery of the National Intelligence Estimate.

thompsonx -> RE: Senator 60 Minutes- 9/11 Attackers Had “Support from Within the US” (4/13/2016 8:43:41 AM)
ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri Were we at war with France during WWII? This is more than a little disingenuous. Germany was in control of france at that time. We didn't go into Afghanistan because Afghanistan attacked us. No "Country" attacked us. We went into Afghanistan because that's where al Qaeda was. The Taliban were taken down because they wouldn't allow us to go after al Qaeda in their country, and they wouldn't hand over bin Laden. Saudi Arabia didn't attack us. Saudi nationals did and instead of going after their handlers in saudi arabia bush co. went someplace not called saudi arabia.

Real0ne -> RE: Senator 60 Minutes- 9/11 Attackers Had “Support from Within the US” (4/13/2016 12:45:30 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri I don't agree with all the justifications. I don't agree that some of the "justifications" actually justify going to war. There was bipartisan passage of the AUMF, even though lawmakers had access to much of the same intelligence as the President (the President's claim that they had the same intel as he, was not completely factual, as he had access to more thorough and sensitive information than lawmakers usually get). Been a while but it seems to me that el prazzi dante is the one who had the 28 pages put under cover which is what graham said in an interview which corrobrates your point.

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