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Maybe we should ban edged weapons - 8/29/2015 2:36:12 PM   
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http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/01/world/asia/china-railway-attack/index.html

29 killed 130 injured

China should also burn itself down over this incident.
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RE: Maybe we should ban edged weapons - 8/29/2015 2:55:23 PM   
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That article is a bit dated, from March, 2014. But this article from March, 2015 indicates that three of the terrorists in this attack were executed.

Well, at least Chinese justice is swift.

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RE: Maybe we should ban edged weapons - 8/29/2015 3:09:40 PM   
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I hear that Zonie. I only posted this because it brings to light that knives can be as deadly as other weapons. I know my mom's cast iron was. Damn that woman could wield a mean skillet.

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RE: Maybe we should ban edged weapons - 8/29/2015 3:17:38 PM   
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I hear that Zonie. I only posted this because it brings to light that knives can be as deadly as other weapons. I know my mom's cast iron was. Damn that woman could wield a mean skillet.


So, you're suggesting that guns should be banned in the USA, and those who currently have guns should have knives instead? Hmmm. Interesting idea, Ken!

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RE: Maybe we should ban edged weapons - 8/29/2015 3:18:49 PM   
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Which would you rather defend yourself against: a person armed with a gun or a person armed with a knife?

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RE: Maybe we should ban edged weapons - 8/29/2015 3:21:09 PM   
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No, I am saying that
1. Banning any weapon is silly (so I mad a funny - good or bad) because anything can be used as a weapon.
2. Burning down cities is stupid. But yet it would be nice if China burned itself down. Might help our economy.

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RE: Maybe we should ban edged weapons - 8/29/2015 3:22:42 PM   
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Done both. Prefer not to do either

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RE: Maybe we should ban edged weapons - 8/29/2015 3:26:03 PM   
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No, I am saying that
1. Banning any weapon is silly


What, even grenades, smallpox bombs, howitzers and things?

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RE: Maybe we should ban edged weapons - 8/29/2015 3:32:20 PM   
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sometimes yes, sometimes no. they should be controlled and/or demilled. That is because solely the killing radius. a 45x50 has a killing radius of .45 inches. A frag grenade 15 metes. A howitzer depends on lots of factors.

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RE: Maybe we should ban edged weapons - 8/29/2015 3:35:36 PM   
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Done both. Prefer not to do either

If I have to use a knife vs knife or gun vs gun I would also chose neither but I am better off gun vs gun, unless the other guy is also 65 with arthritis.

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RE: Maybe we should ban edged weapons - 8/29/2015 3:48:32 PM   
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I hear that but my broadsword makes the youngsters think twice. And I do know how to use the dagger as a shield. LOL

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RE: Maybe we should ban edged weapons - 8/29/2015 4:49:38 PM   
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I hear that but my broadsword makes the youngsters think twice. And I do know how to use the dagger as a shield. LOL

Katana. Problem is if they are still around after a min I am up the creek.
Of course one minute is an eternity in a fight.
I guess my real answer would be which are they best with, I want the other one.
One of the four cops murdered in the last two weeks was trying to arrest his cousin after the cousin had murdered a woman with a knife. The other three were ambushes.

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RE: Maybe we should ban edged weapons - 8/29/2015 5:15:33 PM   
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I hear that but my broadsword makes the youngsters think twice. And I do know how to use the dagger as a shield. LOL

I know how to use a shield as a weapon.

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RE: Maybe we should ban edged weapons - 8/29/2015 5:20:55 PM   
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I hear that but my broadsword makes the youngsters think twice. And I do know how to use the dagger as a shield. LOL

I know how to use a shield as a weapon.

I know how to use lots and lots of things made from metal, plastic, glass, minerals, water, animal hides, etc. About anything you can pick up is a lethal weapon in the right hands.

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RE: Maybe we should ban edged weapons - 8/29/2015 5:35:12 PM   
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It seems like the following is becoming an every day occurrence around here, around a lot of places in the US:

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One arrested, one sought in Nampa stabbing



NAMPA -- A Caldwell man is behind bars charged in connection with a Nampa stabbing that occurred Thursday night.

On Saturday, police arrested 31-year-old Christopher Jesse Torres at 2:40 a.m. after receiving a number of tips from the public. Torres was arrested in the 16000 block of 19th Street in Nampa without incident.

Police say Torres had been identified after he was seen "covered in blood" and wearing all blue, a clothing description that witnesses originally gave to police.

Police are also looking for a second person in connection to the stabbing. He has been identified as 25-year-old Noey Cruz Campos of Caldwell.
Police are searching for Noey Campos, who they say

Police are searching for Noey Campos, who they say is a suspect in a stabbing at a Nampa gas station. (Photo: Nampa Police)



Both men have ties to gang activity, according to police.

Police say the 26-year-old victim in this case is not a gang member.

Full article at:

http://www.ktvb.com/story/news/crime/2015/08/29/nampa-stabbing-arrest/71390652/


The knives arent the problem though...

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RE: Maybe we should ban edged weapons - 8/29/2015 5:49:37 PM   
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I hear that but my broadsword makes the youngsters think twice. And I do know how to use the dagger as a shield. LOL

I know how to use a shield as a weapon.

I know how to use lots and lots of things made from metal, plastic, glass, minerals, water, animal hides, etc. About anything you can pick up is a lethal weapon in the right hands.

yep, everything is a weapon.
One day at work someone commented on my not having any weapons.
I showed him four things sitting on my desk that could be lethal weapons, and how to use them. They were nice to me for a while.

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RE: Maybe we should ban edged weapons - 8/29/2015 6:11:17 PM   
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LOL That wans't nice It was fear. LOL

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RE: Maybe we should ban edged weapons - 8/29/2015 10:11:08 PM   
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LOL That wans't nice It was fear. LOL

close enough

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RE: Maybe we should ban edged weapons - 8/30/2015 12:00:45 AM   
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yep, everything is a weapon.
One day at work someone commented on my not having any weapons.
I showed him four things sitting on my desk that could be lethal weapons, and how to use them. They were nice to me for a while.


I have said it several times, that arms legs teeth should all be banned and the head should be put in an immobilizing splint.

just to be safe


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RE: Maybe we should ban edged weapons - 8/31/2015 2:32:20 PM   
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http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/01/world/asia/china-railway-attack/index.html

29 killed 130 injured

China should also burn itself down over this incident.


Go figure, ten individuals, working as a squad (i.e. team work) to overcome an objective (high body count). That they had knives was bad. Imagine if they had firearms?

Which is your underlying argument your trying to make here. Let's study it from a tactical perspective.

Ten guys, with a primary (assault rifle or shotgun) and secondary firearms (i.e. semi-auto pistols). Say four to six magazines for the primary and two to three for the secondary. Not to mention access to explosive devices; either home made pipe bombs or military grade grenades. Maybe one or two of them have access to 'heavier' weaponry. Like 'Squad Assault Weapon', or a 'Light Anti-Tank Weapon'.

And they storm into the location not as one pack, but in two man teams. That's five teams, attacking from five seperate locations. The plan being to cause as much destruction and body count as possible in the shortest amount of time. Using the cover of chaos and rushing civilians to make their getaway.

How many more people would be killed and injured?

Doesn't matter if its China or the United States of America. It's bad either way! Sad thing is, all that gear is MUCH easier to obtain in the United States than China. That......MANY.....groups have been taken down by law enforcement and the nation's secret agencies, before the killing started, is a DAMN GOOD THING! Because it happens.....ONCE...and the number of people calling for the removing of the 2nd amendment will explode like a nuclear denotation! These people will be so completely livid, they will not 'chat' about any sort of gun control measures you and other firearm fanatics were once against. They'll want to remove all the firearms. Many more will join up with them, then side with gun folks.

We as a nation did not learn the mistakes from the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center Towers, nor the 1995 Oklahoma City Bombing. No, we were forced to learn with the 2001 destruction of the World Trade Center Towers, and the attack on the Pentagon. That we are experiencing mass shootings once every few weeks should alarm....anyone...not living in a fantasy existence pushed by the NRA and groups/organizations like them.

Does something....REALLY....major have to happen for you to understand reality? Do many people have to die for you to 'get a clue'?

I really do not want such an event to ever take place. I love my nation and the people that live within it (even if some of them are conservative or libertarian). To see such an event anywhere, would be despairing. To find out it was the work of domestic terrorists even more so. Most people in this nation were shocked when 4/19/95 took place. To find it was performed by US Citizens was stunning. This nation does not need another one of those moments.

Anyone agree with me in that we really do not have to experience this level of death and destruction to have good, sensible firearm laws? Sensible implying all of us, citizens, take a hard look at existing laws and concepts related to firearms, and make some hard choices. Choices on which we, as a society, will have to live with. For better or worst.

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