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http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/may/18/fossil-fuel-companies-getting-10m-a-minute-in-subsidies-says-imf


‘Shocking’ revelation finds $5.3tn subsidy estimate for 2015 is greater than the total health spending of all the world’s governments

ossil fuel companies are benefitting from global subsidies of $5.3tn (£3.4tn) a year, equivalent to $10m a minute every day, according to a startling new estimate by the International Monetary Fund.

The IMF calls the revelation “shocking” and says the figure is an “extremely robust” estimate of the true cost of fossil fuels. The $5.3tn subsidy estimated for 2015 is greater than the total health spending of all the world’s governments.

The vast sum is largely due to polluters not paying the costs imposed on governments by the burning of coal, oil and gas. These include the harm caused to local populations by air pollution as well as to people across the globe affected by the floods, droughts and storms being driven by climate change.


Nicholas Stern, an eminent climate economist at the London School of Economics, said: “This very important analysis shatters the myth that fossil fuels are cheap by showing just how huge their real costs are. There is no justification for these enormous subsidies for fossil fuels, which distort markets and damages economies, particularly in poorer countries.”

Lord Stern said that even the IMF’s vast subsidy figure was a significant underestimate: “A more complete estimate of the costs due to climate change would show the implicit subsidies for fossil fuels are much bigger even than this report suggests.”

The IMF, one of the world’s most respected financial institutions, said that ending subsidies for fossil fuels would cut global carbon emissions by 20%. That would be a giant step towards taming global warming, an issue on which the world has made little progress to date.

Ending the subsidies would also slash the number of premature deaths from outdoor air pollution by 50% – about 1.6 million lives a year.
More links
here
http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2015/05/19/imf-report-on-5-3-trillion-in-energy-subsidies-careful-its-not-quite-what-you-think/
http://www.csmonitor.com/Environment/Energy/2015/0519/IMF-report-A-5-trillion-case-for-ending-fossil-fuel-subsidies-video
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/7c6512a6-fd27-11e4-b072-00144feabdc0.html#axzz3bNucRFMp

Im wondering why this hasnt hit here,

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/may/18/fossil-fuel-companies-getting-10m-a-minute-in-subsidies-says-imf


‘Shocking’ revelation finds $5.3tn subsidy estimate for 2015 is greater than the total health spending of all the world’s governments

ossil fuel companies are benefitting from global subsidies of $5.3tn (£3.4tn) a year, equivalent to $10m a minute every day, according to a startling new estimate by the International Monetary Fund.

The IMF calls the revelation “shocking” and says the figure is an “extremely robust” estimate of the true cost of fossil fuels. The $5.3tn subsidy estimated for 2015 is greater than the total health spending of all the world’s governments.

The vast sum is largely due to polluters not paying the costs imposed on governments by the burning of coal, oil and gas. These include the harm caused to local populations by air pollution as well as to people across the globe affected by the floods, droughts and storms being driven by climate change.


Nicholas Stern, an eminent climate economist at the London School of Economics, said: “This very important analysis shatters the myth that fossil fuels are cheap by showing just how huge their real costs are. There is no justification for these enormous subsidies for fossil fuels, which distort markets and damages economies, particularly in poorer countries.”

Lord Stern said that even the IMF’s vast subsidy figure was a significant underestimate: “A more complete estimate of the costs due to climate change would show the implicit subsidies for fossil fuels are much bigger even than this report suggests.”

The IMF, one of the world’s most respected financial institutions, said that ending subsidies for fossil fuels would cut global carbon emissions by 20%. That would be a giant step towards taming global warming, an issue on which the world has made little progress to date.

Ending the subsidies would also slash the number of premature deaths from outdoor air pollution by 50% – about 1.6 million lives a year.
More links
here
http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2015/05/19/imf-report-on-5-3-trillion-in-energy-subsidies-careful-its-not-quite-what-you-think/
http://www.csmonitor.com/Environment/Energy/2015/0519/IMF-report-A-5-trillion-case-for-ending-fossil-fuel-subsidies-video
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/7c6512a6-fd27-11e4-b072-00144feabdc0.html#axzz3bNucRFMp

Im wondering why this hasnt hit here,

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

I wish Canada would get with it regarding hemp( and a whole lot of other things) but with the crazy bastards we have in power now...not likely....ugh

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I wish Canada would get with it regarding hemp( and a whole lot of other things) but with the crazy bastards we have in power now...not likely....ugh

Lucy,
http://www.hempoilcan.com/why-hemp/general-hemp-faq/

Is that not legal in Canada? Seems to claim to be.

Medically it's legal, but recreationally it isn't. That being said, it's not like people are thrown in prison for it they way they are in the US. The worst Ive heard happen is people are given a fine, not to mention we seem to have a social mentality where cops seem to not really care all that much about pot, and instead focus more on the hardcore drugs. But this is coming from a guy who's only done it a couple times and has had almost no encounters with the police on these issues, just second hand hearsay.

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ORIGINAL: JVoV
All I know is that more people in Florida voted for medical marijuana than either of the jacktards that ran for governor.

That just means that marijuana is more important than politics! I wouldn't be surprised if that happened in damn near every state, unless a politician ran on giving out free weed...

Why don't you put that to the test DS? I'll vote for you if that's your platform!

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Because I'm not a Democrat.

I'm all for full legalization of marijuana (and hemp). I gave up cigarettes many year ago, and am happy with being a non-smoker. The only things I smoke now, are turkey, pork butt (pulled pork.. yum), ribs, chicken, etc.

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
Because I'm not a Democrat.
I'm all for full legalization of marijuana (and hemp). I gave up cigarettes many year ago, and am happy with being a non-smoker. The only things I smoke now, are turkey, pork butt (pulled pork.. yum), ribs, chicken, etc.

Do you have any good smoker recipes for salmon, trout or kokanee?

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ORIGINAL: Sanity

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
Because I'm not a Democrat.
I'm all for full legalization of marijuana (and hemp). I gave up cigarettes many year ago, and am happy with being a non-smoker. The only things I smoke now, are turkey, pork butt (pulled pork.. yum), ribs, chicken, etc.

Do you have any good smoker recipes for salmon, trout or kokanee?

Technically, I could easily smoke salmon, trout, or kokanee. The method is the same as with the other meats, with the only difference being the length of time they are under smoke. I don't have any good sources of fresh fish as acceptable prices, so I'm not experienced smoking them. I have smoked catfish, though, and do enjoy smoked fish (and smoked cheeses, which I will never try to do myself with my smoker setup). I even tried a smoked beer (rauchbier) that was horrible, but it was in a clear bottle, so it may just have been skunky (I couldn't even chug it and couldn't get any sort of smokey goodness out of it).

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"unlike marijuana, it only contains small quantities of the psychoactive drug delta-9 tetrahydrocannabinol (THC)."

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ORIGINAL: Sanity

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

Because I'm not a Democrat.

I'm all for full legalization of marijuana (and hemp). I gave up cigarettes many year ago, and am happy with being a non-smoker. The only things I smoke now, are turkey, pork butt (pulled pork.. yum), ribs, chicken, etc.

Do you have any good smoker recipes for salmon, trout or kokanee?

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ORIGINAL: JVoV

Wtf kinda bong you gotta use to smoke a trout?

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Perfect

I would like to try it out

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ORIGINAL: JVoV
Wtf kinda bong you gotta use to smoke a trout?

• A Conservative interpretation of the US Constitution
  
• Personal Responsibility
  
• Help for the truly needy
  
• Limited Government
  
• Consumption Tax (non-profit charities and food exempt)