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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Keep working with your reading tutor. Things will get better, even if reading is difficult for you at first.

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Did the voices tell you that too?

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ORIGINAL: Sanity

It feels like I am sinking down to the level of a ten-year-old whenever "debating" you

Seriously. Don't mean it as a slam, this is just childish

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

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ORIGINAL: Sanity

It feels like I am sinking down to the level of a ten-year-old whenever "debating" you

Seriously. Don't mean it as a slam, this is just childish

You are not sinking down bruv, more like rising up a few levels.

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{media disembling is} standard operating procedure. So I am looking for a credible source for information, anybody got one? how do you vet a source as credible?

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ORIGINAL: Extravagasm

RealOne, you have posed one of the most important questions in civilization:

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{media disembling is} standard operating procedure. So I am looking for a credible source for information, anybody got one? how do you vet a source as credible?

The method needs to be taught to every citizen:
1) Believe no source on face value, in part or whole. Become impervious to dog whistles.
2) Listen to every source you can, oral and written.
3) Piece the puzzle together, uniquely for yourself, like solving a mystery story. Like Charlie Chan, Sherlock Holmes, Lt Columbo. At present, almost nothing held by large numbers of people is credible. If more carried out the described method, that would be different.
4) No stray pieces may be ignored, all must be linked and explained. (Ex of a stray piece, is the failed Russian agent assigned to preemptively kill the patsy Oswald, why?).
5) Then become yourself a source, for others, and listen to what they say back, it will hone ideas further. Tedious and rewarding but imperative and adictive. The decentralization of information, would be a great achievement in humanity.
6) Practice on history, where events have relatively slowed. Example: the overthrow & destruction, of Andrew Jackson, Lincoln, Trotsky, Iran's 1940 President, JFK, Diana, Arafat for starters.
7) Never, ever, confuse dignity with truth. Of the speaker, or of the conclusion. Here's a solid example: the dignified Colin Powell told the UN that our knowledge of Iraq's mass weapons "is not just conjecture; we know what they are; and where they are."
But see, if we knew WHERE they were, why hadn't we whispered this in the ear of the last unfettered UN inspection team, with unrestricted access, including the palaces. Countless deaths (plus US's loss of monopoly over Iraq, to Ahmed Chalabi's homeland Iran) never had to occur, just to find out that Powell was lying (not misinformed). If misinformed, we'd have transfered the misinformation to the UN inspectors. It was right there in the slip of his words. Told everyone I could. No one, right or left, cared because they confused dignity with truth. When Saddam had let the last inspection team into the palaces, the leader of the original inspection team knew US was lying, and began a one-man trip across US campuses to prevent our Iraq folly. Anybody remember him?

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ORIGINAL: Extravagasm

RealOne, you have posed one of the most important questions in civilization:

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{media disembling is} standard operating procedure. So I am looking for a credible source for information, anybody got one? how do you vet a source as credible?

The method needs to be taught to every citizen:
1) Believe no source on face value, in part or whole. Become impervious to dog whistles.
2) Listen to every source you can, oral and written.
3) Piece the puzzle together, uniquely for yourself, like solving a mystery story. Like Charlie Chan, Sherlock Holmes, Lt Columbo. At present, almost nothing held by large numbers of people is credible. If more carried out the described method, that would be different.
4) No stray pieces may be ignored, all must be linked and explained. (Ex of a stray piece, is the failed Russian agent assigned to preemptively kill the patsy Oswald, why?).
5) Then become yourself a source, for others, and listen to what they say back, it will hone ideas further. Tedious and rewarding but imperative and adictive. The decentralization of information, would be a great achievement in humanity.
6) Practice on history, where events have relatively slowed. Example: the overthrow & destruction, of Andrew Jackson, Lincoln, Trotsky, Iran's 1940 President, JFK, Diana, Arafat for starters.
7) Never, ever, confuse dignity with truth. Of the speaker, or of the conclusion. Here's a solid example: the dignified Colin Powell told the UN that our knowledge of Iraq's mass weapons "is not just conjecture; we know what they are; and where they are."
But see, if we knew WHERE they were, why hadn't we whispered this in the ear of the last unfettered UN inspection team, with unrestricted access, including the palaces. Countless deaths (plus US's loss of monopoly over Iraq, to Ahmed Chalabi's homeland Iran) never had to occur, just to find out that Powell was lying (not misinformed). If misinformed, we'd have transfered the misinformation to the UN inspectors. It was right there in the slip of his words. Told everyone I could. No one, right or left, cared because they confused dignity with truth. When Saddam had let the last inspection team into the palaces, the leader of the original inspection team knew US was lying, and began a one-man trip across US campuses to prevent our Iraq folly. Anybody remember him?

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When Saddam had let the last inspection team into the palaces, the leader of the original inspection team knew US was lying, and began a one-man trip across US campuses to prevent our Iraq folly. Anybody remember him?

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RealOne post 29: You make very good points. The problem is that if these news organizations want to 'timely' if at all, get stories from the gubbermint they have no choice but to play the game, and of course that game is often to the detriment of the general population while they enjoy 'unjust enrichment' and get away with it. . . . So in we wind up with government controlled news despite it carries the label 'free'.

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Basically it undermines any society that these events are allowed to occur and continue and sadly in america they flourish being set up under the english system of law.

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Despite knowing all this, people still demand credible sources, how can we have credible sources when we dont have credible government or a credible system?

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MariaB Was that Hans Blix?

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MrRogers post 30: question then becomes if the US (CIA) can so easily take down the legitimately elected democratic govt. of Iran and Iraq in the 1950's...without starting a war, why couldn't it do the same in the 90's and now?