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Journalist Admits US CIA ‘Bribed’ Him and Others! - 10/11/2014 6:49:19 PM   
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Udo Ulfkotte, a former editor of Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung (which is one of Germany’s largest newspapers), has decided to go public about the corruption of himself and the rest of the Western ‘news’ media, because he finds that this corruption is bringing Europe too close to a nuclear war against Russia, which he concludes the U.S. aristocracy that controls the CIA wants to bring about, or else to bring closer to the brink.

He told Russian Television:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yp-Wh77wt1o

I’ve been a journalist for about 25 years, and I’ve been educated to lie, to betray, and not to tell the truth to the public. … The German and American media tries to bring war to the people in Europe, to bring war to Russia. This is a point of no return, and I am going to stand up and say … it is not right what I have done in the past, to manipulate people, to make propaganda against Russia, and it is not right what my colleagues do, and have done in the past, because they are bribed to betray the people not only in Germany, all over Europe. … I am very fearful of a new war in Europe, and I don’t like to have this situation again, because war is never coming from itself, there is always people who push for war, and this is not only politicians, it is journalists too. … We have betrayed our readers, just to push for war. … I don’t want this anymore, I’m fed up with this propaganda. We live in a banana republic, and not in a democratic country where we have press freedom. …

The German media, especially, my colleagues …, day by day, write against the Russians, [these journalists] who are in transatlantic organizations, and who are supported by the United States to do so. …

I became ‘honorary citizen of the state of Oklahoma,’ … Why? Because I write pro-American. I was supported by the Central Intelligence Agency, the CIA. Why? Because I am pro-American. I am fed up with it; I don’t want to do it anymore; and so I have just written a book, not to earn money, no, it will cause a lot of trouble for me. [I wrote it instead] to give the people in this country, Germany, in Europe, and all over the world, just a glimpse of … what goes on behind the closed doors. …

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/10/leading-german-journalist-admits-cia-bribed-leaders-western-press.html




So conspiracy theorists are proven correct all along after all?

How can anyone believe anything when ALL media is nothing more than a gargantuan pack of lies and government spin? Is this democracy? By the people, of the people for the people?

This has become standard operating procedure. So I am looking for a credible source for information, anybody got one? So how do you vet a source as credible?



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RE: Journalist Admits US CIA ‘Bribed’ Him and Others! - 10/11/2014 7:31:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		As someone trained in old school balanced and properly researched journalism, the first questions I have are "Who is Washington's Blog? Who funds it and what is their agenda?" Sadly, the kind of journalism I learned has pretty much gone the way of the dodo thanks to Rupert Murdoch. Once Fox became a clear purveyor of blatantly one sided political polemic instead of news, other news organizations responded with the same methodology but for the opposing side. If I had the time or the inclination, I'm sure I could figure out who the blog is shilling for, but I have neither time nor inclination.

Politics aside, have you also considered the possibility that this is just one guy who is about to be in whole heaps of legal trouble (possibly for accepting bribes or printing libelous information) and he's just trying to get out ahead of the curve by portraying himself as the next Edward Snowden?

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RE: Journalist Admits US CIA ‘Bribed’ Him and Others! - 10/11/2014 7:43:29 PM   
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It is interesting to me, how you have convinced yourself that one supposedly terrible, evil man has single-handedly led every "news" organization in the world astray... Simply by airing a more balanced (or 'conservative' in your view) take on things.



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RE: Journalist Admits US CIA ‘Bribed’ Him and Others! - 10/11/2014 11:58:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		While I take it ALL with a heap of skepticism, I also take govt. with the same skepticism.

As I have written before, it is very difficult and getting more so every day on knowing just who to believe anymore. I do not believe anything coming out of the CIA, NSA and for the most part...almost the entire US govt.

The nature and flexibility available through the secret spending of our tax dollars, I can only imagine what work [it] has been up to. The so-called mainstream press being mere corporate tentacles of the same monster, tell us what they are told to tell us.

That in turn empowers others like these sources to carry more weight than they otherwise would so we can't just discount it.

Aren't ALL multi-millionaire journalists and reporters...being bribed too ?

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RE: Journalist Admits US CIA ‘Bribed’ Him and Others! - 10/12/2014 7:07:24 AM   
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So conspiracy theorists are proven correct all along after all?


Not necessarily. The problem with conspiracy theorists is not that they cast doubt or skepticism on what the government says, but they often take the extra step of filling in the blanks with their own conjecture. This is how conspiracy theorists can turn what would otherwise be righteous dissent against the government into a mish-mash of confusion and dissonance, ensuring that there will be no real change or any kind of organized opposition to the government whatsoever.

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How can anyone believe anything when ALL media is nothing more than a gargantuan pack of lies and government spin? Is this democracy? By the people, of the people for the people?


I don't think you can assume that this would apply to "ALL" media.

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This has become standard operating procedure. So I am looking for a credible source for information, anybody got one? So how do you vet a source as credible?


It might be necessary to look at multiple sources of information, not just in terms of current events, but also in examining the historical background of various issues facing us today. You can't just find a single source and call it "credible" (or not), although there might be ways of examining different events/issues by looking at several sources and comparing them.



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RE: Journalist Admits US CIA ‘Bribed’ Him and Others! - 10/15/2014 5:58:41 AM   
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It is interesting to me, how you have convinced yourself that one supposedly terrible, evil man has single-handedly led every "news" organization in the world astray... Simply by airing a more balanced (or 'conservative' in your view) take on things.


Yeah 'balanced' my butt! That organization makes Joseph Goebbels smile from the grave. That the amount of bullshit, lies, and 'stretching of truth' is so commonplace, its hard to determine were the 'news' ends and the 'conservative opinion' starts/restarts. That organizations have been set up or come into existence to 'battle' the likes of FOX News and other conservative media should help explain how 'freedom of the press' can be undermined by tyrannical powers. And when caught in their lies, they just move onto the next story and 'forget' the issue ever came up.

Any news organization with a half wit of html can post 'the news'. But that sort of thing is dry, boring, dull, and no entertaining. That people need to be entertained, to be informed, is a sad aspect of the American culture. And that entertainment comes with a cost. We see it as a group of Americans called 'The Low Information Voters'. These people have no clue what is within the ACA or not. Nor the proper information on a vast number of concepts and ideas. They are told what to think, what to do, and who to vote for without question. Is that truly liberty?

Finding a balance, would mean FOX News and other conservative media outlets would be required to hold Republican/Tea Party people to the same level of accountability and responsibility with power, as Democrats and the President are slammed on an hourly basis. This does not happen....WHY?

To be 'balanced' would mean the people on FOX News are just as sincere towards the President's accomplishments as they are for his failures. Your going to have us all believe, that FOX News and other conservative media outlets are 'fair and balance' with their statements and 'news' on the President's good and bad moments.....EQUALLY?


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RE: Journalist Admits US CIA ‘Bribed’ Him and Others! - 10/15/2014 7:58:07 AM   
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RE: Journalist Admits US CIA ‘Bribed’ Him and Others! - 10/15/2014 8:30:31 AM   
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It is interesting to me, how you have convinced yourself that one supposedly terrible, evil man has single-handedly led every "news" organization in the world astray... Simply by airing a more balanced (or 'conservative' in your view) take on things.



Somebody went back for 2nds and 3rds on the kool-aid.

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RE: Journalist Admits US CIA ‘Bribed’ Him and Others! - 10/15/2014 9:30:45 AM   
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RE: Journalist Admits US CIA ‘Bribed’ Him and Others! - 10/15/2014 8:28:44 PM   
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What's wrong with the media? I think they're highly entertaining, myself.

I think they should just cut the facade and cash in, like they did with The Monkees in '67, and make a comedy TV series out of it. Put an ad in the entertainment rags, "Wild! Looking for middle aged kids who can act, for an exiting new comedy series about middle aged clueless farts trying to get jobs as "journalists" or "reporters" or "commentators." Like the whole premise of the Monkees show, trying to get a job as a band ( for two seasons).

So after all the auditions, we've come up with a real winner of a team; Davey Brooks (who steals George Will's dotted bow tie every chance he gets), Tommy Friedman, a natural front man in any comedy act (which made him a natural for what the media considers serious political commentary), Sheen Hannity, who does the best "Oh Shit! Ahhh!"-with-simultaneous-smirk-on-his-face act we've ever seen, Andy Cooper (Mr. Universe furrowed brow), and of course out front and center (this IS entertainment) Miss Universe Adam's apple; Coulter-45 ("the skinny long barrel formerly known as Ann Coulter").

Congrats to that German guy for the extra lunch money he got out of it, but the CIA has nowhere near the budget to hire these clowns.

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RE: Journalist Admits US CIA ‘Bribed’ Him and Others! - 10/16/2014 5:08:14 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Sanity


It is interesting to me, how you have convinced yourself that one supposedly terrible, evil man has single-handedly led every "news" organization in the world astray... Simply by airing a more balanced (or 'conservative' in your view) take on things.



Somebody went back for 2nds and 3rds on the kool-aid.


It just absolutely kills leftists, to lose their decades-old monopoly on the airwaves

(In more ways than one)

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RE: Journalist Admits US CIA ‘Bribed’ Him and Others! - 10/16/2014 9:06:07 AM   
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What's wrong with the media?

Congrats to that German guy for the extra lunch money he got out of it, but the CIA has nowhere near the budget to hire these clowns.

-Inserts tape of cricket chirping for the OP ...




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qME6Ta9InY4#t=187

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpmc1iTWEJU


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium_production_in_Afghanistan

As reported by Global Research:

“Immediately following the October 2001 invasion, opium markets were restored…By early 2002, the opium price (in dollars/kg) was almost 10 times higher than in 2000. In 2001, under the Taliban opiate production stood at 185 tons, increasing to 3400 tons in 2002 under the US sponsored puppet regime of President Hamid Karzai.”









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RE: Journalist Admits US CIA ‘Bribed’ Him and Others! - 10/16/2014 9:10:24 AM   
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He told Russian Television..... Ja, no. OK.


may as well

no one in the US can do anything and live to talk about it.

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RE: Journalist Admits US CIA ‘Bribed’ Him and Others! - 10/16/2014 9:59:29 AM   
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RE: Journalist Admits US CIA ‘Bribed’ Him and Others! - 10/16/2014 12:50:55 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Sanity


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


It is interesting to me, how you have convinced yourself that one supposedly terrible, evil man has single-handedly led every "news" organization in the world astray... Simply by airing a more balanced (or 'conservative' in your view) take on things.



Somebody went back for 2nds and 3rds on the kool-aid.


It just absolutely kills leftists, to lose their decades-old monopoly on the airwaves

(In more ways than one)



As right wingers continue their war on reality.

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RE: Journalist Admits US CIA ‘Bribed’ Him and Others! - 10/16/2014 3:33:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		So I get that journalists were bribed to make "Merica" look good,but what does he mean by free journalist being banned from writing any Pro Russian reports?Last time I checked,Russia was just as horrible as America if not worse on a human rights perspective and with their own horribly scewed propaganda machine,their own secret "make you and yer family disappear"police,list of countries for torture extradition(actually,they probably don't outsource that),their own corrupt officials,ect..if anything,they're like our like our less financially successful evil twin brother,not that we're not evil either,just not AS evil..or desperate.......Then again,that might just be my programming from my decedent western media fed mind.....

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RE: Journalist Admits US CIA ‘Bribed’ Him and Others! - 10/16/2014 4:16:55 PM   
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He told Russian Television..... Ja, no. OK.


may as well

no one in the US can do anything and live to talk about it.


You seem to manage...... Dont you realise if your half backed posts consisted of more than total bullshit, you would have been "offed" by those very people you are claiming carried out 9/11. Hopefully your tin foil hat will give you enough fucking protection.

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RE: Journalist Admits US CIA ‘Bribed’ Him and Others! - 10/16/2014 5:18:34 PM   
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It is interesting to me, how you have convinced yourself that one supposedly terrible, evil man has single-handedly led every "news" organization in the world astray... Simply by airing a more balanced (or 'conservative' in your view) take on things.



Somebody went back for 2nds and 3rds on the kool-aid.

Indeed. 'Someone' is a kool-aid addict.

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RE: Journalist Admits US CIA ‘Bribed’ Him and Others! - 10/16/2014 6:34:11 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


It is interesting to me, how you have convinced yourself that one supposedly terrible, evil man has single-handedly led every "news" organization in the world astray... Simply by airing a more balanced (or 'conservative' in your view) take on things.



Somebody went back for 2nds and 3rds on the kool-aid.


It just absolutely kills leftists, to lose their decades-old monopoly on the airwaves

(In more ways than one)



As right wingers continue their war on reality.



So leftists dont obsess endlessly over FOX News...



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RE: Journalist Admits US CIA ‘Bribed’ Him and Others! - 10/16/2014 6:39:21 PM   
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