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mstudentslave -> The Main Site (7/7/2006 12:54:52 AM)

Now this is in this ones journal on its profile but it wanted to get a wider view and response and it seems like this is the place to do it. Basically this one is shocked as to the amount of Dominant Women on the site with personal profiles who require tribute. Now of course Pro Domination is a business and quite a prosperus one judging by profile amounts but it seems like almost any Domme this one pays interest in suddenly decides that money is needed. An example is a Domme this one begun to get close to recently just to be told its first task was to deposit £100 into the Dominants bank account. Not much of a task and despite the fact that yes it does prove loyalty this one looks for a Mistress that views him as more than a pay cheque. It become clear with that Mistress that She was saying the right things to keep the slave hooked and to help it hand over the cash.

So what this one really means is since when did the BDSM community become all about paying people to show loyalty, this one knows that Domme's are in high demand but hoped that a personal, free to use site such as Collarme would provide profiles for Domme's seeking service, not offering one.

Rant over, this one would like others views on this and yes, it is ready to be flamed out of here.




Caretakr -> RE: The Main Site (7/7/2006 12:55:57 AM)

sighs............. now all we need is another slave vs sub debate.




BitaTruble -> RE: The Main Site (7/7/2006 12:58:55 AM)

My view is that you should just pass by those profiles which don't interest you and concentrate on the ones which do.

Feel free to use the 'search' function in the upper right hand corner to find scads of pages on this very topic.

Welcome to the forums.

Celeste




Estring -> RE: The Main Site (7/7/2006 1:06:17 AM)

As soon as male subs quit paying, there will be no more pay to play.




LadyJulieAnn -> RE: The Main Site (7/7/2006 5:23:57 AM)

When did the BDSM community become all about being drawn to the "crawl on the floor worm while I torture you because you are worthless, and I'll be wearing a pvc catsuit and 6 inch heels while I'm doing it" profile, and then getting upset because she's going to charge you for it.  Perhaps look beyond the obvious, fantasy-filled profiles.  Most of the lifestyle Dommes I know don't charge anything.

Be well,
Julie




NyxNymph -> RE: The Main Site (7/7/2006 6:39:09 AM)

I just want to say "Ditto" to LadyJulieAnn's comment.. if it looks too good to be true, it probably is.




RavenMuse -> RE: The Main Site (7/7/2006 7:53:23 AM)

Welcome to CollarMe, there are loads of non-pro-Dommes out there, just ignore the ones that don't interest you. Leave them to those desprate enough to top-from-the-bottom and willing to pay through the nose for the privalage and just concentrate on finding the Ladys that are compatable with you.

Not sure where in the UK you are but try getting to a few munches and involved in the local scene. I know London here has a large number of lovely Dommes, non-pro and I know a few who have been looking for the right 'boy' for quite a while.






thisishis -> RE: The Main Site (7/7/2006 7:59:57 AM)

my view is in agreement with that of those who have offered theirs' here already.
 
However, i understand that: 
1. While a financial tribute may sit well in one person's category of 'turn offs', there are others who could list it as a 'turn on'.
2. Everyone is different. 
3. There are some members here at collarme who do not share the same opinions.
 
When you come across a profile here at collarme which clearly lists financial tribute as an expectation, you do have an option of reporting that profile.
If you read the guidelines [i've copied & pasted an example of them shown here, below] listed at the 'edit your profile page' of your account, there is a section which warns that any display of references to 'financial slavery' is not acceptable for posting on a profile.
 
If you come across a profile of anyone who is seeking financial tribute, you have the option of reporting it, blocking it, or moving on to the next profile, or all three.
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No Contact Info: Phone, Email, Instant Messenger. No links to websites.


No Criticism of other users. No mention of illegal activities.


No references to financial slavery.


Use the [image]http://www.collarme.com/htmlarea/images/ed_color_fg.gif[/image] button below to change the font color




Jasmyn -> RE: The Main Site (7/7/2006 8:40:39 AM)

I loathe getting messages from subs who write like you do...maybe I'm pedantic, but I immediately think...clown or wannabe... with no comprehension of what it takes to be a submissive except what his fantasises have been telling him is how a 'slave' (or 'sub') acts. 

Great for ya fantasises and great for when you get the opportunity in real time (online or off) to be at the feet of a fem dom.  But right now...it's just a really annoying way of communicating and does nothing to inspire me, and I'm sure plenty of others to give you any more time of day beyond reading your profile and moving along.   

First off, it comes across like it is 'all about you' ... you aren't anyone's 'one' .... you are *you* a human being, a person, a walking talking penis... hopefully you are submissive and you will get the opportunity to be someone's 'one' one day ... until then, don't patronise fem doms with some insipid please look at me mistress see i am so respectful of your superiority i wouldn't insult your superiorness by allowing myself an ego and will only ever refer to myself as 'one' cause thats all I am worthy of, yet you as a fem dom I have no idea what you want, but this is what i want and i'm a twue sub... barf, ya think?  Close but no cigar.   As a fem dom I want to meet the *man* behind the subservience ... the subservience is a given ... being a *man* and not a jerk out to fullfill his fantasies isn't.  Reading your rant and reading your profile I'm loathe to call you submissive.  Right now you are sounding like someone who has no idea what submission is despite all your so called knowledge.  

And the fact that in your profile you make this rant ... wouldn't turn me on to a guy like you ...you make a great deal of assumptions about 'dommes' and lay all the blame for your predicaments at their feet ... yet I bet you were wetting your little panties the entire time you had contact with these women and suddenly they turned into bitches when they laid down their terms ... and now those terms weren't to your liking or don't fit your schema of what you think should exisit in a BDSM community ...you wanna toss ya toys outta the cot and rant until momma comes along and says 'yes, yes, their all big meanies and you're right to not want them around' ... my advice ... *stop messaging profiles while you have your hand on it* and *don't dictate what you think this site should be about and for whom* ...it's an open forum message board and personals ... not some mythical bdsm wonderland where only the twue bdsmers should be allowed.

Lastly, you say in your profile, in the comments, that your rant is very unsubby like, well *barf* at that too ... you're living in a dream land. 




MrDiscipline44 -> RE: The Main Site (7/7/2006 9:04:54 AM)

Now I ain't sayin she's a gold digga
But she ain't workin with no broke n----
Now I ain't sayin she's a gold digga
But she ain't workin with no broke n----

                                        Gold Digger
                                         by Kanye West




truesub4u -> RE: The Main Site (7/7/2006 9:16:39 AM)

LOL Mr D... think you worded that wrong according to my daughter.. but close enough for goverment work.....[:D]




MrDiscipline44 -> RE: The Main Site (7/7/2006 9:24:31 AM)

[;)]




Sdarcy -> RE: The Main Site (7/7/2006 9:41:34 AM)

I would like to respond since my profile does state that I am NOT looking for contacts, and that I am a prodomme so no-one can say I am misleading anyone. Yes, there is a plethora of women who seem to think that it's in the Secret Female Dominant Book of Rules that one must charge. Of course that's not true; my dearest friends are all lifestyle, for-fun-not-for-pay dommes (and no, I'm not playing matchmaker so don't ask).

However - please bear in mind that experience and equipment are wonderful additions to a woman's repertoire. Dungeon furniture, whips, toys and wardrobe all cost money; finding the time to play with enough people to acquire proficiency can be difficult when one has another full time job. Add into that diet, exercise and beauty treatments so one can avoid the dreaded cow comparisons and you're talking a goodly sum of money. I always find it a bit annoying when gentlemen expect the very best dominant quality while bringing nothing to the experience save their dicks and demands, yet they scream to high heaven to think they might be expected to contribute to the Mistress' expenses. Why should we be penalized for choosing to make a career of something we love to do?

To summarize; yes, it's wrong to be sneaky about the fact that one expects tribute, but expecting tribute is not in and of itself a character defect.

Regards,

Ms. Susanne




MrDiscipline44 -> RE: The Main Site (7/7/2006 10:13:08 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Sdarcy

I would like to respond since my profile does state that I am NOT looking for contacts, and that I am a prodomme so no-one can say I am misleading anyone. Yes, there is a plethora of women who seem to think that it's in the Secret Female Dominant Book of Rules that one must charge. Of course that's not true; my dearest friends are all lifestyle, for-fun-not-for-pay dommes (and no, I'm not playing matchmaker so don't ask).
There's a price to pay for all things. We only pay attention when it's cost is collected in dollars.

quote:

However - please bear in mind that experience and equipment are wonderful additions to a woman's repertoire.
And a man's.
quote:

Dungeon furniture, whips, toys and wardrobe all cost money; finding the time to play with enough people to acquire proficiency can be difficult when one has another full time job. Add into that diet, exercise and beauty treatments so one can avoid the dreaded cow comparisons and you're talking a goodly sum of money. I always find it a bit annoying when gentlemen expect the very best dominant quality while bringing nothing to the experience save their dicks and demands,
It annoys me too, but for me it's the women that think spreading their legs is enough, not men.
quote:

yet they scream to high heaven to think they might be expected to contribute to the Mistress' expenses. Why should we be penalized for choosing to make a career of something we love to do?

To summarize; yes, it's wrong to be sneaky about the fact that one expects tribute, but expecting tribute is not in and of itself a character defect.

Regards,

Ms. Susanne

No, it's not. But it seems to be when thats all that your interested in the submissive for. It then turns from being intimate into something else.




MrrPete -> RE: The Main Site (7/7/2006 10:22:05 AM)

Asking tribute can also be a filtering device. A way to weed out the wankers and wannabes.

There are plenty of Dommes on Collarme that don't require tribute so keep lookin and
ignore those that do. And stop your insipid whining.




Submotive -> RE: The Main Site (7/7/2006 10:25:13 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: mstudentslave

Now this is in this ones journal on its profile but it wanted to get a wider view and response and it seems like this is the place to do it. Basically this one is shocked as to the amount of Dominant Women on the site with personal profiles who require tribute. Now of course Pro Domination is a business and quite a prosperus one judging by profile amounts but it seems like almost any Domme this one pays interest in suddenly decides that money is needed. An example is a Domme this one begun to get close to recently just to be told its first task was to deposit £100 into the Dominants bank account. Not much of a task and despite the fact that yes it does prove loyalty this one looks for a Mistress that views him as more than a pay cheque. It become clear with that Mistress that She was saying the right things to keep the slave hooked and to help it hand over the cash.

So what this one really means is since when did the BDSM community become all about paying people to show loyalty, this one knows that Domme's are in high demand but hoped that a personal, free to use site such as Collarme would provide profiles for Domme's seeking service, not offering one.

Rant over, this one would like others views on this and yes, it is ready to be flamed out of here.

LOL - and i am SHOCKED at the fact that the salary differetiation of a woman vs. a man has, within the past 3 years increased where it was at one time decreasing. At one time progress was being made in this regard. Women were gaining momentum and being treated more fairly. But that is becoming history. We now face the ever widening gap between what a man is paid for a job and what a woman is paid for the same job.
 
so - waaaa - perhaps it just urks you that women CAN demand money for this service and be paid well. Women have never really found it necessary to pay for sex or any of its accoutrements - men always have and most likely always will.[sm=shake.gif]




MrDiscipline44 -> RE: The Main Site (7/7/2006 10:30:11 AM)

Every woman is a whore in some way. And men are always paying for their services, in some way.




Jasmyn -> RE: The Main Site (7/7/2006 10:42:37 AM)

And another thing ... having a profile on a bdsm personals site doesn't make you part of a 'community' ..it makes you a person with a profile on a bdsm personals site...so I'm finding it a little arrogant of you, hence my own tone,  to come on to these boards now and throw ya toys from the sandpit when you have had a profile on here for five months and talk 'community' like you have some claim to be part of this particular one ..welcome to the boards and all that, but do be aware 'communities' like the one created by the collective thoughts of people who frequent these boards, is every much like walking up to a crowd of people in a bar and butting into a conversation you've half over heard.  The people who frequent these boards, well ok, the likes of me, don't want to be patronised by someone claiming 'community' because it suits them to do so right now, when you've had the resources to be part of this community available to you everytime you log into the site and you haven't bothered.  But now it suits you to wave the community flag...go figure. 







Noah -> RE: The Main Site (7/7/2006 10:59:21 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Jasmyn

I loathe getting messages from subs who write like you do...maybe I'm pedantic, but I immediately think...clown or wannabe... with no comprehension of what it takes to be a submissive except what his fantasises have been telling him is how a 'slave' (or 'sub') acts. 

Great for ya fantasises and great for when you get the opportunity in real time (online or off) to be at the feet of a fem dom.  But right now...it's just a really annoying way of communicating and does nothing to inspire me, and I'm sure plenty of others to give you any more time of day beyond reading your profile and moving along.   

First off, it comes across like it is 'all about you'


We have a winner in the Ironic Post of the Day competition!

note to A/all: The key issue in composing a post is the degree to which it will annoy Jasmyn.

How'm I doin' so far?


...
quote:

you aren't anyone's 'one' .... you are *you* a human being, a person, a walking talking penis


Now there is a Theory of Human Identity which advances beyond the Platonic "featherless biped."

So spill the beans, Jas. Are you a human being too?

quote:

... hopefully you are submissive and you will get the opportunity to be someone's 'one' one day ... until then, don't patronise fem doms with some insipid please look at me mistress see i am so respectful of your superiority i wouldn't insult your superiorness by allowing myself an ego and will only ever refer to myself as 'one' cause thats all I am worthy of, yet you as a fem dom I have no idea what you want, but this is what i want and i'm a twue sub... barf, ya think?  Close but no cigar.   As a fem dom I want to meet the *man* {editor's note: "walking, talking penis"}behind the subservience ... the subservience is a given ... being a *man* and not a jerk out to fullfill his fantasies isn't.  Reading your rant and reading your profile I'm loathe to call you submissive.  Right now you are sounding like someone who has no idea what submission is despite all your so called knowledge.  

And the fact that in your profile you make this rant ... wouldn't turn me on to a guy like you ...you make a great deal of assumptions about 'dommes' and lay all the blame for your predicaments at their feet ... yet I bet you were wetting your little panties the entire time you had contact with these women and suddenly they turned into bitches when they laid down their terms ... and now those terms weren't to your liking or don't fit your schema of what you think should exisit in a BDSM community ...you wanna toss ya toys outta the cot and rant until momma comes along and says 'yes, yes, their all big meanies and you're right to not want them around' ...

"Captain! We'll need a bigger dilythium crytal for the Irony Meter or I canna' hold it together huch longer!"
quote:

my advice ... *stop messaging profiles while you have your hand on it* and *don't dictate what you think this site should be about and for whom* ...it's an open forum message board and personals ... not some mythical bdsm wonderland where only the twue bdsmers should be allowed.

Lastly, you say in your profile, in the comments, that your rant is very unsubby like, well *barf* at that too ... you're living in a dream land. 


Okay. this is not some mythical BDSM wonderland where only twue BDSMers should be allowed but his rant is very unsubby.

This is the most preposterous pile of unabashed self-contradiction I have seen here in a while, and that's pretty high praise.




Jasmyn -> RE: The Main Site (7/7/2006 11:02:02 AM)

Thank you Noah, please be sure to kiss my arse on your way out and turn off the lights.




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