agirl
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ORIGINAL: Caretakr
The fact is this. When you have become conditioned to obedience,you are no longer entirely responsible for your personal cognizance. Scarey thought, isn't it?
Any more than Pavlov's puppies could stop drooling when the bell rang. Hell, I have conditoned girls to lose voluntary bladder control when I put them in diapers. This clued me to the fact that excercising force of will on a submissive personality is REAL. Yet, many of you have the arrogant attitude that you are too strong for this. Some of you are not- a Competent contoller can play you like an instrument-only the basic consent is needed.
Conditioning starts at cultural levels ,and moves up through the chain. This is why cultures vary so much, they are conditioning and indoctinating structures. The fact that you relate to the surrounding culture that you live in, shows that you HAVE undergone successful condtioning.
The exact outcome of conditioning is WHAT discipline and structure you align yourself with.
The woman in the story chose a poor conditioning to align herself with. If she had chosen better-it would not have happened.
I agree. When we are subject to our original conditioning as small babes, we aren't even aware that it's happening.
As adults, we can choose an awful lot of what influences us and what we ALLOW to influence us.
I know that I became *conditioned* to many things in my marriages; not all beneficial...but it's gradual and subtle and the process of realising that something isn't comfortable and changing it, can take time, especially as a young person. It's a sifting process, in a way.
The experience of doing that, adds to the list of strengths we carry and gives us the know-how to be able to do it again in the future. It hones our knowledge of ourselves.
I am also conditioned now, to a different type of relationship......I have changed and have become *used to* reacting and behaving a certain way.
I think I AM *brain-washed* to a degree......but the initial decision to live as *owned* was taken with ALL the previous knowledge, skills and experiences garnered from beforehand.
Maybe some *inner-alarm* sounded for this woman when she behaved as she did toward her son........but it may have been muted; the *white-noise* of her feelings regarding her *so called* Master drowning it out. (a supposition)
In an ideal world, no-one would be that *needy* to the point that it affects the way they behave toward their sproglings.
It's not an ideal world.
Regards, agirl
< Message edited by agirl -- 7/4/2006 6:09:44 AM >
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