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RE: Obama Bundler Bankrolled Libertarian in VA Governor... - 11/6/2013 7:29:18 PM   
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bullshit is the notion that anyone thinks that muffin
given his anti gay rhetoric, it was an attempt to buck a 2003 SCOTUS strike down of the law, so that gays can be charged with felony sodomy, why just not change the other specific laws for asswipes fiddling with minors.



Bullshit is the notion that I'm anti gay. Any perceived anti gay rhetoric, and I would need you to point it out, would be purely unintentional.

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RE: Obama Bundler Bankrolled Libertarian in VA Governor... - 11/6/2013 7:52:39 PM   
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It's a lie that he took an appeal of the overturning of the Virginia law to the US Supreme Court?
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/10/07/court-wont-hear-va-appeal-over-sodomy-law/2935613/
Guess not.


It's certainly a gross exageration. So they wanted to apply the law to an adult committing a sexual act with a minor. I'm not in favor of cruel and unusual punishment either but I don't have a problem with hanging up sex offenders by thier balls.

That's bullshit. If the person was below the age of consent then there are plenty of statutes available. However a 17 year old is legally able to consent to any sexually activity she desires. This was simply a lame attempt to bring back a law only enforced on unpopular groups and relationships. BTW the law did not target adult/minor sex but all oral and anal sex between consenting adults.


Bullshit is the notion that the ebil wepublicans are going to go house to house checking up on who's getting blowjobs.


Of course not. They only want to prosecute homosexuals.

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RE: Obama Bundler Bankrolled Libertarian in VA Governor... - 11/6/2013 8:33:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		I was thinking more of his money dealings with a Navy Veteran's organization in a heavily military state, followed by the revelation that the group was bogus.


http://www.the-richmonder.com/2010/06/cuccinelli-pocketing-money-meant-for.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Navy_Veterans_Association#Virginia_contributions_and_exemption

Might have cost him a few conservative votes.


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I don't why the election thread disappeared either. It is unknown how much damage Cuccinelli did to his own campaign with his rhetoric and behavior, but certainly a 3rd party siphoned away votes.


I'm not sure what you mean by behavior but by rhetoric do you mean hard line against things like abortion and same sex marriage or against things like high taxes and big government ? If the former I get it but on the other hand the latter is what matters. If we don't get fiscal issues in check and hyperinflation takes hold then the social issues won't really matter anyway. I don't see any politician having much of an effect getting rid of abortion.


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RE: Obama Bundler Bankrolled Libertarian in VA Governor... - 11/6/2013 8:52:38 PM   
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bullshit is the notion that anyone thinks that muffin
given his anti gay rhetoric, it was an attempt to buck a 2003 SCOTUS strike down of the law, so that gays can be charged with felony sodomy, why just not change the other specific laws for asswipes fiddling with minors.



Bullshit is the notion that I'm anti gay. Any perceived anti gay rhetoric, and I would need you to point it out, would be purely unintentional.

bullshit is the notion that I called you anti gay
I was talking to you.
About Cooch. Not you, If I had meant you I would have said, YOUR anti gay rhetoric, not "his", and as you have not attempted to buck the 2003 law by trying for an appeal in SCOTUS, I think you know that.

Please read it with the correct punctuation, for clarification purposes

Bullshit is the notion that anyone thinks that muffin.

Given his anti gay rhetoric, it was an attempt to buck a 2003 SCOTUS strike down of the law, so that gays can be charged with felony sodomy, why just not
change the other specific laws for asswipes fiddling with minors.

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RE: Obama Bundler Bankrolled Libertarian in VA Governor... - 11/6/2013 8:57:25 PM   
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Of course not. They only want to prosecute homosexuals.


Yeah right, like that's what would happen in a Cuccinelli administration. Like we don't have better use for law enforcement resources than to send the police running around busting gay men for the illegal commision of a blow job. You guys take the stupidest shit and blow it so far out proportion, it's just absurd.

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RE: Obama Bundler Bankrolled Libertarian in VA Governor... - 11/6/2013 9:29:26 PM   
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Of course not. They only want to prosecute homosexuals.


Yeah right, like that's what would happen in a Cuccinelli administration. Like we don't have better use for law enforcement resources than to send the police running around busting gay men for the illegal commision of a blow job. You guys take the stupidest shit and blow it so far out proportion, it's just absurd.

Then why fight so hard for a sodomy law? If he wanted to outlaw older men having sexual contact with 17 year olds then he should have tried to raise the age of consent not reinstate a sodomy law.

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RE: Obama Bundler Bankrolled Libertarian in VA Governor... - 11/6/2013 9:41:19 PM   
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bullshit is the notion that anyone thinks that muffin
given his anti gay rhetoric, it was an attempt to buck a 2003 SCOTUS strike down of the law, so that gays can be charged with felony sodomy, why just not change the other specific laws for asswipes fiddling with minors.

Bullshit is the notion that I'm anti gay. Any perceived anti gay rhetoric, and I would need you to point it out, would be purely unintentional.


lovmuffin, I think this is just a misunderstanding that a comma and a period would have prevented.

I think it should have read this way:
    bullshit is the notion that anyone thinks that, muffin.
    given his anti-gay rhetoric, etc.


The "his" she refers to was Cuccinelli (which she did point out in her response).


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RE: Obama Bundler Bankrolled Libertarian in VA Governor... - 11/6/2013 9:54:42 PM   
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RE: Obama Bundler Bankrolled Libertarian in VA Governor... - 11/6/2013 10:25:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		Look macauliffe won because they split out some libertarian vote.

Absent smart, expensive, dirty tricks, cuchinelli wins.
The dimocrats are wrong to think this is a positive review for obamacare.

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RE: Obama Bundler Bankrolled Libertarian in VA Governor... - 11/6/2013 10:27:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'm not so concerned about some seemingly sanctimonious bullshit in 2003 over trying to use a sodomy law. What Ed brought up is somewhat more of a concern but there is just as much of the same sort of bullshit to go around in democratic circles.

However, what pisses me off the most beside the fact I can't stand McAuliffe is that Cuccinelle could have won with a little help from the RNC and it would have delt a serious blow to Obamacare which I despise. In effect though, Virginia is actually good news for the GOP, and may actually help wake them up for 2014. That Cuccinelli could come so close against the Clintonista, after the GOP is blamed for the shutdown, and running against a fake Libertarian, is actually very encouraging. Obamacare is going to get worse and worse. Dems in red states are going to have a hard time distancing themselves from it and still support Shrillary in 2016.

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RE: Obama Bundler Bankrolled Libertarian in VA Governor... - 11/6/2013 10:30:24 PM   
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Look macauliffe won because they split out some libertarian vote.

Absent smart, expensive, dirty tricks, cuchinelli wins.
The dimocrats are wrong to think this is a positive review for obamacare.


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RE: Obama Bundler Bankrolled Libertarian in VA Governor... - 11/6/2013 11:01:55 PM   
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Are you seriously putting forth the notion that the Democrats created the 3rd party candidacy as some sort of expensive dirty trick to siphon off votes? Really?



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Look macauliffe won because they split out some libertarian vote.

Absent smart, expensive, dirty tricks, cuchinelli wins.
The dimocrats are wrong to think this is a positive review for obamacare.




I put forth that notion in the OP. It's even implied in the title of the thread.

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RE: Obama Bundler Bankrolled Libertarian in VA Governor... - 11/7/2013 5:58:08 AM   
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Are you seriously putting forth the notion that the Democrats created the 3rd party candidacy as some sort of expensive dirty trick to siphon off votes? Really?



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Look macauliffe won because they split out some libertarian vote.

Absent smart, expensive, dirty tricks, cuchinelli wins.
The dimocrats are wrong to think this is a positive review for obamacare.




I put forth that notion in the OP. It's even implied in the title of the thread.

So what? Who do you think worked to get Nader on the ballot in 2004? Republican billionaire and huge Bush supporter Richard Egan amongst other prominent Republican donors. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

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RE: Obama Bundler Bankrolled Libertarian in VA Governor... - 11/7/2013 8:47:21 AM   
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What's good for the goose is good for the gander.



what a catchy phrase, maybe Hillary should use it in her campaign.

she doesn't have anything else to run on.

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RE: Obama Bundler Bankrolled Libertarian in VA Governor... - 11/7/2013 9:06:10 AM   
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RE: Obama Bundler Bankrolled Libertarian in VA Governor... - 11/7/2013 9:23:10 AM   
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What's good for the goose is good for the gander.



what a catchy phrase, maybe Hillary should use it in her campaign.

she doesn't have anything else to run on.

How is that even remotely on topic? Why do you try and hijack threads?

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RE: Obama Bundler Bankrolled Libertarian in VA Governor... - 11/7/2013 10:22:35 AM   
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What's good for the goose is good for the gander.



what a catchy phrase, maybe Hillary should use it in her campaign.

she doesn't have anything else to run on.

How is that even remotely on topic? Why do you try and hijack threads?


It's on the topic, you know like dirty tricks to Obominationcare to effecting Dems negatively to goose / gander(you) to Shrillery. It all ties together.

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RE: Obama Bundler Bankrolled Libertarian in VA Governor... - 11/7/2013 1:09:22 PM   
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What's good for the goose is good for the gander.



what a catchy phrase, maybe Hillary should use it in her campaign.

she doesn't have anything else to run on.

How is that even remotely on topic? Why do you try and hijack threads?


It's on the topic, you know like dirty tricks to Obominationcare to effecting Dems negatively to goose / gander(you) to Shrillery. It all ties together.

Try English next time. I don't read gibberish.

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RE: Obama Bundler Bankrolled Libertarian in VA Governor... - 11/7/2013 1:17:32 PM   
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Try English next time. I don't read gibberish.


What ??? You've never heard of Obamanationcare or Shrillery ?

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RE: Obama Bundler Bankrolled Libertarian in VA Governor... - 11/7/2013 8:09:17 PM   
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Are you seriously putting forth the notion that the Democrats created the 3rd party candidacy as some sort of expensive dirty trick to siphon off votes? Really?



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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux

Look macauliffe won because they split out some libertarian vote.

Absent smart, expensive, dirty tricks, cuchinelli wins.
The dimocrats are wrong to think this is a positive review for obamacare.




I put forth that notion in the OP. It's even implied in the title of the thread.


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