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alwayslovecum -> RE: Are Subs really Subs? (4/16/2013 8:02:33 PM)

hello



Charles6682 -> RE: Are Subs really Subs? (4/17/2013 7:32:04 AM)

I have served Women before,regardless whether it was sexual or not.One thing I have learned is that submission is not about "whips and chains".It can be for some and that can be fun.

I use to serve as a "male maid" for my 2 female roommates.It was actually their idea.granted,they knew I was submissive but still.There was no sexual play at all.I literally was a "maid" so to speak.I kept the place clean,go outfor appointments,get grocery,etc.Even though there was nothing sexual going on,I still enjoyed "serving" these Ladies.I think it was a good experience for me,to prove to myself,that I do enjoy submitting without the need for the s exual aspect.Being of service,has it own rewards.



angelikaJ -> RE: Are Subs really Subs? (4/17/2013 8:39:20 AM)


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ORIGINAL: iamalive888

I feel most submissive men want to say they want to lose control and be taken advantage of, but they don't really want this. They want to feel like they are submitting. It's evidenced by all the profiles that say I want to do this that and the other thing. Wouldn't a woman dictate exactly what they do? Shouldn't their profile read this is what I will not do at all, everything else is up to the Mistress? That seems to me to be the proper way to go about serving.

Am I the only one that thinks a lot of these guys just want the fantasy but none of the reality?


I see the italicised part the fantasy and the bolded part the reality.... of submission.

Isn't submission about submitting?

My Master does not take advantage of me.
He does not take control as I have willingly ceded it.
I did not lose control: I gave it to Him...and find deeper meaning to that aspect every day.

But my submission is specific to Him.
Specificity is what makes it special for us.









JeffBC -> RE: Are Subs really Subs? (4/17/2013 8:43:51 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Charles6682
Being of service,has it own rewards.

QFT

This would be a true statement for anyone I would respect... dom, sub, slave, whatever.



NiceButMeanGirl -> RE: Are Subs really Subs? (4/17/2013 10:00:15 AM)


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ORIGINAL: iamalive888
Yes it's a list of what I will do for the girl. She knows exactly what she is getting.

Sure she knows what she's getting, BUT it's NOT a list of what you will do for the "girl," it's a list of what you want for yourself and what you're into. It's all about you and your dick.

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ORIGINAL: itsapixie
Your immature attitude is very unbecoming and makes you come across as less legit :/

I totally agree.

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ORIGINAL: Level
Major Domo, now there's a phrase not heard much [8D]

Last time I heard that was in the Marketplace Series.

NBMG



subathelete -> RE: Are Subs really Subs? (5/2/2013 9:52:19 PM)

Wow! Your classifying "humiliation" (something that whatever it is has no relationship at all to physical pain) as falling under "Sado-Masochism" (which is utterly about physical pain) is totally shocking to me. It completely weirds me out that anyone would make that association.

And that -this huge divergence between what two people mean when using seemingly straightforward language- is why I think some submissives (myself included) might come across as circumspect. It is like when someone identifies themselves in written form as a "top"... who likes to suck cock and be fucked! WTF?!

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would actually classify humiliation under Sado-Masochism



OsideGirl -> RE: Are Subs really Subs? (5/3/2013 8:24:52 AM)

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ORIGINAL: subathelete

Wow! Your classifying "humiliation" (something that whatever it is has no relationship at all to physical pain) as falling under "Sado-Masochism" (which is utterly about physical pain) is totally shocking to me. It completely weirds me out that anyone would make that association.


You've apparently never heard of the people that consider what they engage in as "Emotional Sadism" or "Emotional Masochism".

And you're incorrect about Sado-Masochism being "utterly about physical pain". Sadism is defined as a condition in which sexual gratification comes from causing pain or degradation to others. Masochism is defined as a condition in which sexual gratification comes from suffering physical pain or humiliation.

<~~~~Chick with a Psych degree



subathelete -> RE: Are Subs really Subs? (5/3/2013 10:21:45 AM)

OsideGirl,

Your response sent me to the OED, which -you won't be surprised to hear- completely agrees with you:
Sadism: "Enthusiasm for inflicting pain, suffering, or humiliation on others; spec. a psychological disorder characterized by sexual fantasies, urges, or behaviour involving the subjection of another person to pain, humiliation, bondage, etc."
Masochism: "The urge to derive pleasure, esp. sexual gratification, from one's own pain or humiliation; the pursuit of such pleasure."

Thank you for correcting my error without excoriating me;-)

Geez I have a lot to learn.



SomethingCatchy -> RE: Are Subs really Subs? (5/3/2013 10:54:34 AM)

The answer is yes. Submissive men are submissive. Just like bottoms are bottoms, weight lifters lift weights, and dogs smell butts.

Asking a question like this shows the inability to think outside of the box and comprehend that everyone has a different personality and sees things differently. The profile attached to the OP tells me he's a bottom and wants full, equal control in what happens in his relationship. That's fine. There are plenty of people out there into people like him. It's what makes the world go 'round.

One of the most amazing thing about being a functional adult is being able to look at at someone and think 'I wonder what they see when they look out at the world.' Everyone sees something a little different than the next. It's absolutely fascinating and it totally applies to every single facet of life - especially BDSM and D/s.



cloudboy -> RE: Are Subs really Subs? (5/3/2013 11:28:23 AM)


Where would we be without our fantasies?



Politesub53 -> RE: Are Subs really Subs? (5/3/2013 11:52:37 AM)


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ORIGINAL: iamalive888

Oh is that what I am doing? More like defending myself from a bunch of whiners. I asked a simple question, but people take it upon themselves to analyze my profile (incorrectly I might add) and try to use it against me. I can listen to what others have to say. It's called a dialogue. But good job trying to divert away from the topic. I get irritated when people clearly don't comprehend the information provided. That has nothing to do about bitching.



And there lies the problem. You start a thread, critical of others profiles, yet throw your toys from your pram if anyone is critical of your own profile.

Hypocrisy at its finest.




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