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For the first time, logic in the view of some of the de... - 3/23/2013 3:21:03 AM   
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I have heard rapists use the argument "She was asking for it" referring to attire, attitude etc.
I like this image for its rebuttal.




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RE: For the first time, logic in the view of some of th... - 3/23/2013 4:08:29 AM   
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Unfortunately for women, stupidity is much more difficult to see than sexy clothes.

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RE: For the first time, logic in the view of some of th... - 3/23/2013 5:51:53 AM   
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Unfortunately for women, stupidity is much more difficult to see than sexy clothes.


Until certain people start talking, anyway. See the sig line.

ETA: This is not a reference to anybody in particular.

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RE: For the first time, logic in the view of some of th... - 3/23/2013 6:03:22 AM   
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Unfortunately for women, stupidity is much more difficult to see than sexy clothes.

Not if they're looking for someone on a message board.

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RE: For the first time, logic in the view of some of th... - 3/23/2013 6:30:59 AM   
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I just stared this in another thread, but until all our daughters are trained to respond with immediate lethal force to any sexual assault, things aren't going to change. Of course, all we need to to is teach our daughters that if they're assaulted, they should consider their life forfeit, and their duty is to kill their attacker however they can.

Once we have a few rapists killed by their 'victims', people will learn how to treat women.

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RE: For the first time, logic in the view of some of th... - 3/23/2013 6:39:59 AM   
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do you realize that your quote is from a man who admitted to being a fool?

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RE: For the first time, logic in the view of some of th... - 3/23/2013 6:43:40 AM   
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Hmm


Man abducted from train and raped

A MAN was abducted at gunpoint by three men from a rush-hour train on the London Underground, taken to a park and raped, police revealed last night.

Detectives are investigating possible links between the assault and a series of sexual attacks against men in the capital in recent months.



whats a brit to do? No guns! LMAO



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RE: For the first time, logic in the view of some of th... - 3/23/2013 6:49:13 AM   
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ORIGINAL: jlf1961
I have heard rapists use the argument "She was asking for it" referring to attire, attitude etc.
I like this image for its rebuttal.

could also b asked was she continuing to "ask for it" when she was struggling & screaming?

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RE: For the first time, logic in the view of some of th... - 3/23/2013 6:52:36 AM   
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here we go!


Bold & Powerful Chengdu Woman Rapes Passing Man on Street

Bold and Powerful Chengdu Woman “Rapes” Man on Street: Saw a ferocious woman at Jiuyanqiao. Probably drank too much [is drunk]! Pressed a man passing by onto the ground, took off her pants, and then suddenly climbed on top of him. At first, the man even resisted for a moment! But ultimately surrendered to the woman’s violent rape, pulled up his underwear and walked away red in the face! After pulling up her pants, the woman walked along Jiuyanqiao crossing the street… Numerous male netizens on Weibo today proclaimed that they’re going to Chengdu to “wait by the tree for a rabbit” [see if they get lucky]~~ [吃惊]

So hot! Why wasn’t I that guy?!

Chengdu truly is a good place, Chengdu’s gals are all great gals!

If I have nothing better to do, I might as well go to the crime scene and hang out!



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RE: For the first time, logic in the view of some of th... - 3/23/2013 8:03:25 PM   
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posts trivialising genuine rape much?

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RE: For the first time, logic in the view of some of th... - 3/23/2013 10:16:19 PM   
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She was asking for it doesn't hold water with me if she was going down a dark alley totally nude.

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RE: For the first time, logic in the view of some of th... - 3/23/2013 10:18:30 PM   
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She was asking for it doesn't hold water with me if she was going down a dark alley totally nude.

Yeah. That's kind of my thought also. About the only way a woman can "ask for it" is by actually asking for it. But there's me and my literal brain again.


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RE: For the first time, logic in the view of some of th... - 3/24/2013 4:37:15 AM   
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Once we have a few rapists killed by their 'victims', people will learn how to treat women.



Now, how the hell might a 90 pound woman respond in such a way against a 220 pound man? Hmmm, let me think... there's gotta be something...

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RE: For the first time, logic in the view of some of th... - 3/24/2013 5:39:21 AM   
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Once we have a few rapists killed by their 'victims', people will learn how to treat women.



Now, how the hell might a 90 pound woman respond in such a way against a 220 pound man? Hmmm, let me think... there's gotta be something...



Well, I know it would not be every ladie, but recently in my home town, a 230 lb muscle brain tried to rape a petite 110 young Japanese girl attending college here.

He ended up in the hospital with broken ribs, nose and a knee that no longer supported his bulk.

She was a black belt in Karate and some other Japanese martial art, had been studying martial arts since like five.

Even though there were two witnesses to his attack, he tried to have her arrested for assault. Go figure.

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RE: For the first time, logic in the view of some of th... - 3/24/2013 5:40:04 AM   
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Didn't we just cover using lethal force for ANY type of sexual assault in the other thread yesterday?

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RE: For the first time, logic in the view of some of th... - 3/24/2013 2:03:10 PM   
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Once we have a few rapists killed by their 'victims', people will learn how to treat women.



Now, how the hell might a 90 pound woman respond in such a way against a 220 pound man? Hmmm, let me think... there's gotta be something...

There's something between the legs for a start.
While jlf makes a good point, I have a suspcion that kava maga could be more appropriate than karate in these cases: go for the eyes, the balls and the throat as you possibly can. Hell, if a good shot to the testicles takes the wind out of some wanker's sails, kerb stomping him might be a possibility afterwards: it'll certainly stop the fuckwit getting up and hitting you back...

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RE: For the first time, logic in the view of some of th... - 3/24/2013 2:11:07 PM   
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Once we have a few rapists killed by their 'victims', people will learn how to treat women.



Now, how the hell might a 90 pound woman respond in such a way against a 220 pound man? Hmmm, let me think... there's gotta be something...

There's something between the legs for a start.
While jlf makes a good point, I have a suspcion that kava maga could be more appropriate than karate in these cases: go for the eyes, the balls and the throat as you possibly can. Hell, if a good shot to the testicles takes the wind out of some wanker's sails, kerb stomping him might be a possibility afterwards: it'll certainly stop the fuckwit getting up and hitting you back...

It's actually Krav Maga.

Seeing as how this "Maintaining awareness of surroundings while dealing with the threat in order to look for escape routes, further attackers, objects that could be used to defend or help attack, and so on." is an important part of the art. Note: "escape routes", a curb job is unlikely.
One important rule in the street. Assume the person you are confronting has friends a few seconds away. Using that few seconds to either admire your handiwork or go above and beyond the call of duty can prove extremely injurious when said friends show up.
Some of you people need to watch fewer movies.

ETA The above is another reason why I think the idea of "Lethal Force" is idiotic.

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RE: For the first time, logic in the view of some of th... - 3/24/2013 2:25:45 PM   
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My mistake.
To be honest, it's not a system I know anything about besides the fact that it's geared towards avoiding a fight if that's at all possible and seriously hurting your opponent if that isn't. That's why I thought it might potentially be a better idea for self defence under those circumstances. The point about idiots going about in packs is a good one, though.

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RE: For the first time, logic in the view of some of th... - 3/24/2013 2:30:57 PM   
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...The point about idiots going about in packs is a good one, though.

It's usually the fuckwit at the front that's the leader and the biggest asshat.
Deal with him and the rest are usually asswipes that have no spine and they will often flee.


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RE: For the first time, logic in the view of some of th... - 3/24/2013 2:33:08 PM   
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I wouldn't want to risk any of them growing a pair even without their alpha male, myself.

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