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More fun and games in Rome - 2/22/2013 9:15:41 PM   
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Allegedly, Ratzenberger decided to step down and let the next guy handle it.

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RE: More fun and games in Rome - 2/22/2013 9:23:33 PM   
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RE: More fun and games in Rome - 2/22/2013 9:23:55 PM   
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And that this has been known to the Vatican for a period of time and that this is the reason for his resignation and future sequestration on the Vatican grounds, as it is not certain sovereign immunity will protect him.

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RE: More fun and games in Rome - 2/22/2013 9:25:25 PM   
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RE: More fun and games in Rome - 2/22/2013 9:37:29 PM   
YN


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Status: offline 		The financial losses are already occurring, but having the Pope arrested jailed, publicly tried upon evidence, and then given a prison term for great, numerous, widespread, serious and international crimes involving moral turpitude - that is a matter that calls into question the Roman Catholic Church and the Pope acting as the voice and authority of God, even among the most faithful and rural of the Catholic masses.


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RE: More fun and games in Rome - 2/23/2013 10:05:05 AM   
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RE: More fun and games in Rome - 2/23/2013 10:41:28 AM   
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The financial losses are already occurring, but having the Pope arrested jailed, publicly tried upon evidence, and then given a prison term for great, numerous, widespread, serious and international crimes involving moral turpitude - that is a matter that calls into question the Roman Catholic Church and the Pope acting as the voice and authority of God, even among the most faithful and rural of the Catholic masses.

A Vatican spokesman of course denied the story as unverified and untrue.

Now, I may be mistaken but Vatican City is a soverign state and arresting the pope is highly unlikely, innit?

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RE: More fun and games in Rome - 2/23/2013 12:48:07 PM   
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...and it is amazing that the world still gives a fuck what happens and if there was such a place...the pope, the Vatican and the catholic church would all be going straight to hell.

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RE: More fun and games in Rome - 2/23/2013 12:50:49 PM   
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The financial losses are already occurring, but having the Pope arrested jailed, publicly tried upon evidence, and then given a prison term for great, numerous, widespread, serious and international crimes involving moral turpitude - that is a matter that calls into question the Roman Catholic Church and the Pope acting as the voice and authority of God, even among the most faithful and rural of the Catholic masses.

A Vatican spokesman of course denied the story as unverified and untrue.

Now, I may be mistaken but Vatican City is a soverign state and arresting the pope is highly unlikely, innit?


The pope is also a German citizen.

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RE: More fun and games in Rome - 2/23/2013 12:58:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		More interesting to the superstitious, is the lightning storm which struck the Vatican several times a hour or two after the Pope announced his resignation, and then Romes earthquake.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQ-qB2npF-E

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RE: More fun and games in Rome - 2/23/2013 1:17:43 PM   
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RE: More fun and games in Rome - 2/23/2013 1:59:38 PM   
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The switch or change was supposed to be to the female aspect, not to the end of the world, though for a patriarchal society, I suppose it amounts to the same thing.

As for the Pope, there are also certain prophecies (Malachy prophecies) which claim this is the last Pope prior to the ascent of Peter Romanus the Anti-Christ to Pope.

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RE: More fun and games in Rome - 2/23/2013 2:10:10 PM   
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Part of my Indian heritage is Maya, (like many in Central America) and all I will say is the Europeans have expanded things they see in Maya mythology past any recognition. You did not see the farmers and rurales in Guatemalan, Honduras, etc. acting like the world was ending, and they still use the old calender wheels in many places for planting and other purposes.

The switch or change was supposed to be to the female aspect, not to the end of the world, though for a patriarchal society, I suppose it amounts to the same thing.

As for the Pope, there are also certain prophecies (Malachy prophecies) which claim this is the last Pope prior to the ascent of Peter Romanus the Anti-Christ to Pope.



Uh, dont the Jews have to rebuild the temple, I mean the anti christ is to do battle with the messiah, and the messiah wont come till the temple is rebuilt...

Of course, I have something else to tell me the antichrist is around, either that or hell has frozen over and Satan has repented his sins and begged god for forgiveness...

When every congressman regardless of party actually UNANIMOUSLY pass bills that are actually good for the country repeatedly over a period of thirty consecutive days.

Oh, and Lindsey Lohan gets clean, stays off drugs and booze, is nominated for an Oscar in best actress and gets into the same shape she was in before she went down the toilet... oh, and she stays out of legal trouble.

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RE: More fun and games in Rome - 2/23/2013 3:00:43 PM   
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The technology for The Mark has arrived, we just need a few massive catastrophes to get the ball rolling.

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RE: More fun and games in Rome - 2/23/2013 6:43:55 PM   
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ORIGINAL: YN

The financial losses are already occurring, but having the Pope arrested jailed, publicly tried upon evidence, and then given a prison term for great, numerous, widespread, serious and international crimes involving moral turpitude - that is a matter that calls into question the Roman Catholic Church and the Pope acting as the voice and authority of God, even among the most faithful and rural of the Catholic masses.

A Vatican spokesman of course denied the story as unverified and untrue.

Now, I may be mistaken but Vatican City is a soverign state and arresting the pope is highly unlikely, innit?


The pope is also a German citizen.

Ah, so you expect him to visit Berlin, do you?

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RE: More fun and games in Rome - 2/23/2013 6:58:33 PM   
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The pope is also a German citizen.

Ah, so you expect him to visit Berlin, do you?


Germany singed the Rome Statute and thus Germany and German citizens are bound by it, and are under the jurisdiction of the International Criminal Court if they commit any of the named crimes in the convention.

And he was not yet Pope when certain of the alleged coverups and acts charged occurred.

So if they do charge him, he probably had best not visit Germany or many other places.

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RE: More fun and games in Rome - 2/23/2013 7:02:00 PM   
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If you know the Christian apocalypse mythology, it can be fun to play around with.

The technology for The Mark has arrived, we just need a few massive catastrophes to get the ball rolling.


Yeah, dont remind me, so I aint working on the biblical schedule, I am happy taking my time before taking over.

My first mother in law claimed that I was the antichrist, something to do with being Catholic, ex army, and extremely proud of the fact I was the top grad in my class at sniper school.

She was Southern Baptist raised, converted to a charismatic christian belief system, and had this idea that everyone in the military was in league with the devil.

But then you claim to be The Heretic, so maybe she would have picked you as the antichrist over me.

To be honest, if I were to take over the world, Firefly would be back on the air with a new episode seven days a week, the "American Idol" type shows would be outlawed, and eating salsa made with my recipe would be mandatory.

After that, if you have no disability that absolutely prevents you from working, then you work, with a minimum of government assistance, education would be a primary concern, health care would be a major priority, research in science, engineering and sustainable energy sources that do not 1) take up large amounts of land, or 2) Impact local ecosystems severely would be encouraged.

And of course, anyone that is The Heretic would be in charge of what female subs and slaves shall wear in public. You would also be in charge of citizen morale, fair and equitable government revenues, oversee the department of game and wildlife to make sure there is a good balance of predator, prey, and game animals, finally you would set the quality standard for alcoholic beverages.

For all those jobs, you get a government residence in the capital and six localities of your choice. The construction and decor must be worthy of a dom or master's dream palace.

Maybe eating my salsa should be a punishment for criminal acts? I have been toying with the idea of adding ghost chili powder to it, not much, just about a tablespoon per gallon of salsa.

Uh, have I ever mentioned I was on the very edge of being socially acceptable crazy?

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RE: More fun and games in Rome - 2/23/2013 7:31:40 PM   
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The pope is also a German citizen.

Ah, so you expect him to visit Berlin, do you?


Germany singed the Rome Statute and thus Germany and German citizens are bound by it, and are under the jurisdiction of the International Criminal Court if they commit any of the named crimes in the convention.

And he was not yet Pope when certain of the alleged coverups and acts charged occurred.

So if they do charge him, he probably had best not visit Germany or many other places.

He will remain hidden in a wee shed somewhere within the VC. His momma didn't raise no fool.

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RE: More fun and games in Rome - 2/23/2013 7:35:45 PM   
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He will remain hidden in a wee shed somewhere within the VC. His momma didn't raise no fool.


That is the commentary on the Vatican remodeling a cloistered nunnery on the Vatican premises as his future retirement mansion.

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RE: More fun and games in Rome - 2/23/2013 8:17:42 PM   
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Uh, have I ever mentioned I was on the very edge of being socially acceptable crazy?



LOL, JLF. Should you come to power, I'd have to accept the deal, but you'll forgive me if I place a bit more faith in the last lotto ticket I picked up.

I don't think my mother-in-law ever pegged me as the Antichrist, though the rather large tattoo on my upper left arm freaked her out a bit, until I provided her with the backstory on it. She likes me fine, now, and makes fantastic soup, though I have zero success in persuading her to stay off her damn roof.

I've never been Catholic, and honestly don't have much interest at all in the doings of the Vatican. If they are right in their beliefs, then I do hope there will be a special corner in Hell for every priest who's ever abused their flock, and every person above them, who let it slide.

This report, to get back towards the topic, doesn't strike me as anything more than another lurid example of how power corrupts. But it IS lurid, and there are a lot of people that care more than I about the Holy Church in Rome, so I expect it will be a bit of a thing.

Check me on something, though, if you know. Couldn't any Pope be considered Peter Romanus?

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