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Fightdirecto -> Latest threat of impeachment against President Obama (1/16/2013 5:46:24 AM)

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Responding to reports that President Obama is considering signing as many as nineteen executive orders on gun control, Republicans in Congress unleashed a blistering attack on him today, accusing Mr. Obama of “cynically and systematically using his position as President to lead the country.”

Spearheading the offensive was Rep. Steve Stockman (R-Texas), who charged the President with the “wanton exploitation of powers that are legally granted to him under the U.S. Constitution.”

Calling him the “Law Professor-in-Chief,” Rep. Stockman accused Mr. Obama of “manipulating a little-known section of the Constitution,” Article II, which outlines the power of the President.

“President Obama looks down the list of all of the powers that are legally his and he’s like a kid in a candy store,” Rep. Stockman said. “It’s nauseating.”

The Texas congressman said that if Mr. Obama persists in executing the office of the Presidency as defined by the Constitution, he could face “impeachment and/or deportation.”

Noting that the President has not yet signed the executive orders on gun control, Rep. Stockman said that he hoped his stern words would serve as a wake-up call to Mr. Obama: “Mr. President, there’s still time for you to get in line. But if you continue to fulfill the duties of President of the United States that are expressly permitted in the Constitution, you are playing with fire.”


Republicans Accuse Obama of Using Position as President to Lead Country

Political satire from Andy Borowitz




Moonhead -> RE: Latest threat of impeachment against President Obama (1/16/2013 5:48:35 AM)

They'd obviously rather that the Kenyan just ignored the constitution like that last guy did.
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jlf1961 -> RE: Latest threat of impeachment against President Obama (1/16/2013 5:54:53 AM)

See my response in "Congress is Popular" on what I think should be done with both parties at work in the capital building.

As for this latest round of Republican bullshit, I kinda expected it.

That said, I also believe that using executive orders to set gun control policy is wrong.




MissAsylum -> RE: Latest threat of impeachment against President Obama (1/16/2013 5:57:01 AM)

Using his powers as president?

Well how dare he!




Moonhead -> RE: Latest threat of impeachment against President Obama (1/16/2013 6:01:14 AM)


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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

See my response in "Congress is Popular" on what I think should be done with both parties at work in the capital building.

As for this latest round of Republican bullshit, I kinda expected it.

That said, I also believe that using executive orders to set gun control policy is wrong.

Can he set any policy without having to use executive orders at this point?
I'd feel a bit more sympathetic towards the whining Republican pussy who's bitching about this if his party hadn't spent the last five years doing their utmost to block everything the other party and its Kenyan overlord has tried to get through Congress. Small wonder teh Kenyan has given up on that, frankly.




Lucylastic -> RE: Latest threat of impeachment against President Obama (1/16/2013 6:05:57 AM)

If he uses exec order to use for gun control, hes asking for some serious shit to come down. He is an idiot if he does.
Just my humble opinion... there are too many rabid idiots out there to do something like that




DaddySatyr -> RE: Latest threat of impeachment against President Obama (1/16/2013 6:09:59 AM)

EOs are nothing more than an instrument to circumvent the checks-and-balances system that was established at the very beginning of this republic.

They are, on their face, a way to usurp the rule of what we consider to be law and the New Yorker is a rag, not fit for dead fish burial.

Having said all of that, the biggest offenders of the EO attacks against the constitution have been (in no particular order): FDR, King George I (I call him that because of his frequency of use of the EO), and King George II. However, the current usurper-in-chief is making his case to join their ranks.

It's a travesty and it was one of the earliest assaults against the constitution in "modern" times.



Peace and comfort,



Michael




Moonhead -> RE: Latest threat of impeachment against President Obama (1/16/2013 6:13:55 AM)

So was Stockman complaining about the heavy use of executive orders when it was the Chimp and Bush prime doing that, rather than some uppity Democrat?




DarkSteven -> RE: Latest threat of impeachment against President Obama (1/16/2013 6:22:54 AM)

Good Lord. What a balls-up.

Executive Orders are a way to circumvent the Constitution. I'm completely against them.

That said, what did the GOP expect? They're a minority and trying to block all legislation they don't like, instead of trying to negotiate changes in it, the way that the Founding Fathers envisioned. The three-branch system had worked fine for 200 years until Obama was elected, and the GOP is thoughtlessly breaking it for political ends that are not supported by the majority of the US citizenry.

The GOP's problem is that gun control is gaining in popularity. Obama's too smart to take an unpopular stance. The GOP would learn from that - while they think of themselves as the champions of the American way of life, the citizenry sees them as a bunch of lunatics hell-bent on forcing an unpopular agenda down everyone's throats.




tazzygirl -> RE: Latest threat of impeachment against President Obama (1/16/2013 6:23:22 AM)

Most experts cite as the origin of the executive order a directive issued by President George Washington on June 8, 1789 compelling a report from the holdover Confederation government. The number of executive orders issued by Presidents has grown significantly since that time. While the current system of numbering such orders did not begin until 1907, a review of Presidential directives by CRS concludes that prior to President Grant, no President issued more than 80 orders. By contrast, in the latter half of this century Presidents have routinely issued several hundred executive orders. A watershed era occurred during the presidency of Franklin Delano Roosevelt, who issued more than 3500 executive orders during his 12 years in office. Traditionally, newly elected Presidents have issued a series of executive orders at the outset of their terms, implementing management policies and setting guidelines.

http://democrats.rules.house.gov/archives/rules_hear08.htm

To date, Obama has given 144... Ulysses S. Grant gave 217. If the 18th President is considered "modern" times, no wonder why the US is fucked up.

Btw, dear ole George signed 6.




Owner59 -> RE: Latest threat of impeachment against President Obama (1/16/2013 6:31:28 AM)

How constitutional are filibusters?

I don`t see that word anywhere in the Constitution....

And as for cons being complete, naked hypocrites, here and in the real world?

Is the sky blue?




meatcleaver -> RE: Latest threat of impeachment against President Obama (1/16/2013 6:31:51 AM)

Surely with everything in gridlock and a country divided down the middle, there has to be a mechanism for an elected leader to legislate.

Why weren't people complaining when Bush started an illegal war?




Lucylastic -> RE: Latest threat of impeachment against President Obama (1/16/2013 6:35:12 AM)

cos he used the words righteous and or god??




tazzygirl -> RE: Latest threat of impeachment against President Obama (1/16/2013 6:35:27 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Owner59

How constitutional are filibusters?

I don`t see that word anywhere in the Constitution....

And as for cons being complete, naked hypocrites, here and in the real world?

Is the sky blue?



http://www.brookings.edu/research/testimony/2010/04/22-filibuster-binder




vincentML -> RE: Latest threat of impeachment against President Obama (1/16/2013 6:47:25 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Owner59

How constitutional are filibusters?

I don`t see that word anywhere in the Constitution....

And as for cons being complete, naked hypocrites, here and in the real world?

Is the sky blue?


Art. 1, Sec 5, Clause 2

"Each House may determine the Rules of its Proceedings, punish its Members for disorderly Behavior, and, with the Concurrence of two thirds, expel a member."




Powergamz1 -> RE: Latest threat of impeachment against President Obama (1/16/2013 6:48:39 AM)

Look harder.
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ORIGINAL: Owner59

How constitutional are filibusters?

I don`t see that word anywhere in the Constitution....

And as for cons being complete, naked hypocrites, here and in the real world?

Is the sky blue?






Fightdirecto -> RE: Latest threat of impeachment against President Obama (1/16/2013 7:07:15 AM)

The best political satire is based on reality.




DaNewAgeViking -> RE: Latest threat of impeachment against President Obama (1/16/2013 7:07:54 AM)


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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

Good Lord. What a balls-up.

Executive Orders are a way to circumvent the Constitution. I'm completely against them.


Well riddle me this: if Executive Orders are allowed by the Constitution, how can they be unconstitutional? Hmmm?
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DesideriScuri -> RE: Latest threat of impeachment against President Obama (1/16/2013 7:18:56 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Fightdirecto
The best political satire is based on reality.


I wonder how many noticed:
    Political satire from Andy Borowitz


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DaddySatyr -> RE: Latest threat of impeachment against President Obama (1/16/2013 7:22:19 AM)

Sorry. When daling with PPLs, even words like "just for leading the country" don't register as satire because it is far too close to too many things that the lunatic left spouts like it's their gospel truth.



Peace and comfort,



Michael




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