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RE: Pranks - 12/9/2012 3:31:00 PM

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Actually it isn't a choice. I've fought against suicidal ideation at several times in my life. The world seems to narrow around you until this is the only thing left to do. Beyond that, brains of suicides show distinct changes on a MRI. She didn't choose to have a brain chemistry disorder that killed her.

Very well said, and something I very much relate to.

Some people can find that last piece of string to grab onto, and go on living. Others miss it. It's horribly sad, but it happens. I believe suicide isn't a selfish act, it's a desperate one, as the pain becomes so great the only solution that person can see is just ending everything.

As a therapist told my brother, whose son twice attempted suicide, "Sometimes the world is just too big for people."

I feel sad for the woman who felt that was her only way, and sad for her kids, as well.

I chose life, too, but not everyone sees they have that choice.

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RE: Pranks - 12/9/2012 3:40:24 PM

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As a therapist told my brother, whose son twice attempted suicide, "Sometimes the world is just too big for people."

Well said.

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RE: Pranks - 12/9/2012 3:50:14 PM

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I wanted to add - I don't think there's necessarily "fault" or "blame" when it comes to suicide, but there *is* accountability. We are all accountable for our own behaviors and integrity. I know if my own behavior contributed to someone believing they had no choice but to remove themselves from this world, I'd certainly be looking internally and questioning my own integrity and motives.

One question I ask myself from time to time - Am I putting positivity or negativity out there in the universe? To me, pranks such as the one referenced here are based on something negative (lying, trickery, mockery, humor at the expense of others), and lack integrity.

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RE: Pranks - 12/9/2012 4:21:45 PM

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As have i - and i chose to live. I chose not to put my family through that and i chose to get on medication and have therapy. I CHOSE to live.

I also choose not to define myself by past ideation. I am not suicidal, and plan to stay that way. I also plan not to be in situations where suicide seems like a logical choice.

It's good to hear that you're doing well after emerging from rough times.

There's an undercurrent to your post, though, of "I did it. Anyone can." And I'm not at all sure that's really true.

I had to laugh when i read your post. And only because i don't see myself as being particularly strong, so for me, if i can do it, anyone can. I realise that it isn't an axiom that if i can do it, anyone can - but it would be nice if it were so......

Oy - no matter what, i still don't think the dj's should be pilloried for what happened. I think the whole thing was very unfortunate.

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RE: Pranks - 12/9/2012 5:00:36 PM

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No one knows how strict the protocol was there or how much harassment and teasing anyone can take in a case like this.

Having actually worked in that same hospital I kind of feel qualified to know how strict the protocol is and it is extremely strict - it's a private hospital which prides itself on being the Royal Family's local hospital.

In fact, I'd say it's probably - out of all the hospitals in London - the worst choice of a hospital anyone could choose to play a prank on, particularly when it involves the Royal Family in some sort of publicity stunt.

But would a couple of DJs in Australia be aware of this? I very much doubt it.

And in truth, the DJs said that they expected to be shut down at the switchboard. They did not think they would actually be put through.

Lastly, my brother's fiancee killed herself a year ago. It wasn't a whim. There were two attempts before the one that succeeded. She brooded on it for months. In general people who commit suicide think about it long before the try.

While agree that suicide can be brought on by public attention or bullying, I doubt that she received enough of that in less than 24 hours to prompt that solution. I'm guessing that there were other issues at work and this was the straw that broke the camel's back.

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RE: Pranks - 12/10/2012 10:35:38 AM

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No one knows how strict the protocol was there or how much harassment and teasing anyone can take in a case like this.

Having actually worked in that same hospital I kind of feel qualified to know how strict the protocol is and it is extremely strict - it's a private hospital which prides itself on being the Royal Family's local hospital.

In fact, I'd say it's probably - out of all the hospitals in London - the worst choice of a hospital anyone could choose to play a prank on, particularly when it involves the Royal Family in some sort of publicity stunt.

But would a couple of DJs in Australia be aware of this? I very much doubt it.

This is what makes this all the more confusing, though. If this is the Royal Family's local hospital, then wouldn't the personnel be trained on what kind of phone calls and inquiries to expect? I don't know how that hospital works, but I've worked in similar environments where if anything important or noteworthy is going on in an organization, the people answering the phones are usually given a heads up and instructions on what to do. Especially hospitals where there are famous people staying; they generally expect those kinds of calls and are trained to screen out the pranks and idiots.

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RE: Pranks - 12/10/2012 11:05:57 AM

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Most hospitals have the policy of saying nothing to press or other's questioning, instead, referring them to either family or the hospital spokesperson. But, when you believe its family, then what?

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