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questions about wolf dogs - 12/3/2012 8:58:54 PM

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1. Do wolf mix dogs prance around and howl after they pee like they're trying to show off the fact that they peed? (strange behavior I've never seen in a dog)

2. Do female wolf mix dogs have a strange gland on their tail that smells weird like a sex gland or something?

I don't have a wolf dog and I don't want one. The reason I ask is, someone was asking about wolf dogs and it reminded me of a freakishly big female I temporarily rescued years ago while seeking a home for it. It had coloring similar to a malamute but its tail hung straight not curled and its eyes were so pale they looked white (so there's no way it was full blooded wolf because full blooded wolves have brown eyes). I've always wondered if it was part wolf part malamute, maybe even high content wolf because of its strange behavior, its huge size, and the weird gland thing on its tail. Just for informational purposes, does that sound like a wolf dog?

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RE: questions about wolf dogs - 12/3/2012 9:10:47 PM

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1. Do wolf mix dogs prance around and howl after they pee like they're trying to show off the fact that they peed? (strange behavior I've never seen in a dog)

2. Do female wolf mix dogs have a strange gland on their tail that smells weird like a sex gland or something?

I don't have a wolf dog and I don't want one. The reason I ask is, someone was asking about wolf dogs and it reminded me of a freakishly big female I temporarily rescued years ago while seeking a home for it. It had coloring similar to a malamute but its tail hung straight not curled and its eyes were so pale they looked white (so there's no way it was full blooded wolf because full blooded wolves have brown eyes). I've always wondered if it was part wolf part malamute, maybe even high content wolf because of its strange behavior, its huge size, and the weird gland thing on its tail. Just for informational purposes, does that sound like a wolf dog?

1. It may be exhibiting marking/territorial/mating behaviors. It is a female? Is she in heat? If so, she may be advertising her receptivity. Does she give any indication she may be howling from pain during/after urinating? If so, consider a urinary tract infection.

2. Even female dogs (and cats) have anal/scent glands (inside the anus at about 4 and 8 o'clock) that may need to be expressed from time to time.

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RE: questions about wolf dogs - 12/3/2012 9:30:11 PM

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My hybrid never howled after marking territory, but he would kick up some dirt and grass with his hind feet. I've seen the same behavior in other breeds, including chihuahuas.

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RE: questions about wolf dogs - 12/3/2012 9:35:35 PM

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This gland wasn't inside the anus. It was on the side of the tail that faces outward and not near the anus. This was years ago, but I don't think she was in heat because I never saw any blood.

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RE: questions about wolf dogs - 12/4/2012 7:00:47 AM

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Dogs and wolves are pretty much identical in stuff like organs. The only glands where you describe are the anal glands.

Also wolves are not very large. A malamute should average about 70 to 80 lbs.. Wolves are between 80 and 90 on average.

Are you sure the "gland" was not an absess?

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RE: questions about wolf dogs - 12/4/2012 7:16:57 AM

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The size of a wolf hybrid will depend on which strain of wolf as well as the dog involved. Northern timber wolves can be quite large.
I adopted a hybrid once that was 153# of old arthritic, grouchy attitude when I sold the house where he lived. What an awesome old buddy he was.
As for howling after urination, I'd check for a urinary tract infection. Sometimes howling isnt communication. Sometimes it's a pain response.

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RE: questions about wolf dogs - 12/4/2012 8:02:22 AM

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Malemutes by their very diffinition are part wolf. They are huskeys that needed to be bigger & stronger to survive tough climates so they started paying attention to hybrids resulting from cycling females chained on lines "being serviced" by the local wolves...then started doing it on purpose.
Friend had a full blooded tundra wolf & she was spectacular, even climbed trees to wait for prey (usually humans with treats). She howled when anyone got too close to her territory & dug th china after peeing to scatter her very musky scent. Part I did find interesting was her pee actually made the grass greener instead of killing it like female dogs.
Hybrids are something I'm ethically opposed to. Using evolution in critical climates is one thing, bringing a huskey or mal to civilization thinking they will ever be a nice sedintary house pet just pisses me off!

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RE: questions about wolf dogs - 12/4/2012 8:06:35 AM

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Malemutes by their very diffinition are part wolf. They are huskeys that needed to be bigger & stronger to survive tough climates so they started paying attention to hybrids resulting from cycling females chained on lines "being serviced" by the local wolves...then started doing it on purpose.
Friend had a full blooded tundra wolf & she was spectacular, even climbed trees to wait for prey (usually humans with treats). She howled when anyone got too close to her territory & dug th china after peeing to scatter her very musky scent. Part I did find interesting was her pee actually made the grass greener instead of killing it like female dogs.
Hybrids are something I'm ethically opposed to. Using evolution in critical climates is one thing, bringing a huskey or mal to civilization thinking they will ever be a nice sedintary house pet just pisses me off!

I wouldn't get a hybrid but this old guy couldn't move into a condo with his owner. He liked me so I said "Hell, I'll take him". He learned to loooooooooooove AC vents. The only prob is that I had to muzzle him when I had people over but he learned that he liked this indoor living thing. Had he been a young animal, it probably wouldnt have worked.
the only problem I ever had with him was one minor bite when I was trimming his toenails and the fact that his life's ambition was to kill the vet.

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RE: questions about wolf dogs - 12/4/2012 9:07:08 AM

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Malemutes by their very diffinition are part wolf.

All dogs are all wolf. Dogs are simply selectively bred wolves.

Malamutes are actually one of the oldest pure bred dogs. They were the dogs of the inuit peoples. They may still look a lot like timber wolves but they have been bred by man for a very long time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malamute

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RE: questions about wolf dogs - 12/4/2012 9:29:55 AM

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Please define "freakishly big" in pounds.

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RE: questions about wolf dogs - 12/4/2012 9:57:13 AM

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ok I now totally want a wolf dog. hmmmmm do we have wolves in Australia or would I need to look for a dingo dog?

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RE: questions about wolf dogs - 12/4/2012 10:04:21 AM

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ok I now totally want a wolf dog. hmmmmm do we have wolves in Australia or would I need to look for a dingo dog?

goes off to ponder this ...

They tend to not make very good pets, wanders. I just got lucky in that the one I adopted already knew me well and liked me. He was also older, grouchy and arthritic so we were 2 of a kind LOL. His age and infirmity made it easy for him to adapt to indoor living. Had he been a young high energy animal, it wouldn't have worked. I think he also somehow realized it was either my house or the shelter.
The funny thing is that after he had lived in my house for a coupla months, the owner was in town and came by for a visit. I let the ex owner in and he was greeted by a snarl and a louuuuuuuuuud rumble. I guess the old beast was happy where he was and didn't wanna go back.

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RE: questions about wolf dogs - 12/4/2012 10:07:36 AM

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yikes, ok I will go back to my original wishlist of dogs which are either a St Bernard or hmmm I forget what it is, but it is something giant as well that looks very cute, maybe a Newfoundland. I have a feeling I just want a boog dog to make up for my own lack of height ha ha

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RE: questions about wolf dogs - 12/4/2012 11:37:13 AM

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Newfoundland dogs are great, Wanders.
A very even, chill temperament.

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RE: questions about wolf dogs - 12/4/2012 12:14:13 PM

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yikes, ok I will go back to my original wishlist of dogs which are either a St Bernard or hmmm I forget what it is, but it is something giant as well that looks very cute, maybe a Newfoundland. I have a feeling I just want a boog dog to make up for my own lack of height ha ha

Great Danes are very large and adapt well to being house pets.

Newfies do as well but they shed staggering amounts of fur.

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RE: questions about wolf dogs - 12/4/2012 12:17:16 PM

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Newfies do as well but they shed staggering amounts of fur.

That s sooo true. Every time brush our newfie, he produces about 2 smaller dogs. But, as he is the best dog ever, I can deal with the shedding.

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RE: questions about wolf dogs - 12/4/2012 12:54:08 PM

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the only problem I ever had with him was one minor bite when I was trimming his toenails and the fact that his life's ambition was to kill the vet.

Time to get another vet! Know police dogs that will rip your arm off then use it as a toy that go all puppy & butt wiggly for the right vet. They still get muzzled like hannible but give happy yips for certain people.

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RE: questions about wolf dogs - 12/4/2012 4:23:38 PM

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The tail gland is real. Both sexes have it. It exists in all dogs, but we do not know what its function is.

The territorial peeing, prowling and prancing, and howling are all unrelated to each other, but there is no reason for them to not occur at the same time if/when the conditions are all in place for all three of them. It could very well happen for a lonely dominant animal who tries to find a mate to start a new pack.

The main thing achieved by man's breeding of wolves to create our modern dog breeds are:
1) The wolf's natural fear has been bred out - dogs can handle a lot more stress from unknown sources, which is paramount for them living with us.
2) The wolf's natural activity level of 16-18 hours ON THE GO EVERY DAY has been dramatically reduced - most dogs can handle as little as just 4 hours of meaningful activity per day; there is no way a wolf could handle that - it would explode in frustration and aggression if forced to conform with so little activity.

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RE: questions about wolf dogs - 12/4/2012 5:26:02 PM

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Haha, I have a half Husky, he howls, growls, talks
and is generally a funny little dude.
He usually does a very very veryyyy detailed job of
scratching up grass, dirt and leaves after peeing,
absolutely can't be trusted with small animals that
run, it triggers his chase reflex.
If he catches it he Will kill it, he isn't a
savage dog but the culmination of "catching" what
he's chasing is making sure it's caught, which
intails firmly crushing what ever it is in his mouth.

If he kills something or finds something dead he
rolls over it to cover himself with it's sent which is
another instinctive thing.

He also has light blue bordering on white eyes.
Also another thing he does is, he's very mouth
and paw affectionate, what I mean by that is...
He gently holds a hand in he's teeth to show
affection and will use his paws in communicative
ways.

Massive amounts of endurance especially in cold
weather as you can imagine, the biggest walk I
took him on was 10 hours/60kms, he's incredibly
food efficient and use to not eat for days, but he
eats more regularly now that I feed him little
frequent meals, he literally eats less than a
handbag dog unless I really push the exercise.

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RE: questions about wolf dogs - 12/4/2012 7:11:31 PM

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ok I now totally want a wolf dog. hmmmmm do we have wolves in Australia or would I need to look for a dingo dog?

goes off to ponder this ...

Wolves are a north american thing & the one pure dingo I knew of over here was shot for eating its handler. So umm very not a pet! Aussie cattle dogs & heelers are a fave.

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