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Tensions over the so-called fiscal cliff reached a boiling point today as House Speaker John Boehner accused President Obama of acting like he won the November election.

As he had late last week, GOP House Speaker John Boehner dismissed the administration’s offer as “a non-serious proposal” for including too little in spending cuts and too much in additional stimulus measures, and for letting the top income-tax rates rise, which Mr. Boehner said would hurt some small businesses. On television, he recounted his reaction to Mr. Geithner at the meeting last week.

“I was flabbergasted. I looked at him and said, ‘You can’t be serious,’ ” Mr. Boehner said. “I’ve just never seen anything like it. You know we’ve got seven weeks between Election Day and the end of the year, and three of those weeks have been wasted with this nonsense.”

“Our message is clear: Mr. President, we are ready to negotiate with you,” Mr. Boehner told reporters. “But this nonsense of acting like you won the election has got to stop.”

Lashing out at Mr. Obama’s “delusional arrogance,” Mr. Boehner added, “I don’t know what planet he thinks he won an election on, but this whole ‘the American people elected me’ act is getting a little old.”

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell echoed Mr. Boehner’s sentiments, stating, “The President’s budget proposal sounds like the ravings of a man who thinks he won fifty-one per cent of the popular vote and three hundred and thirty-two electoral votes. When he decides it’s finally time to return to Realityville, he knows where to find us.”

Sen. McConnell denied earlier reports that he “burst out laughing” when he heard Mr. Obama’s latest budget proposal, telling reporters, “Actually, it would be more accurate to say I peed myself.”

“That business about raising taxes on the rich was - pardon my French - freaking hilarious,” Sen. McConnell said. “I’m glad that losing the election hasn’t made the President lose his sense of humor.”

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

President Obama did NOT win the election?

May I ask just what the good senate minority leader and speaker of the house have been smoking, injecting and or drinking since August?

Lets see, Obama got 50.81 percent of the popular vote compared to Romney's 47.48%. That is a 3.33% which is higher than both the 2000 and 2004 margins for Bush.

Oh well, Republicans have never been known to believe the facts.

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl
Keep dreaming. [;)]

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

President Obama did NOT win the election?

May I ask just what the good senate minority leader and speaker of the house have been smoking, injecting and or drinking since August?

Lets see, Obama got 50.81 percent of the popular vote compared to Romney's 47.48%. That is a 3.33% which is higher than both the 2000 and 2004 margins for Bush.

Oh well, Republicans have never been known to believe the facts.

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

President Obama did NOT win the election?

May I ask just what the good senate minority leader and speaker of the house have been smoking, injecting and or drinking since August?

Lets see, Obama got 50.81 percent of the popular vote compared to Romney's 47.48%. That is a 3.33% which is higher than both the 2000 and 2004 margins for Bush.

Oh well, Republicans have never been known to believe the facts.

pResident Obama/Soetoro may well have won the election but that doesn't make him Dictator.

Oh well, Democraps have never been known to see, much less accept, the facts.

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ORIGINAL: subspaceseven

They call it his latest proposal, Yet this has been the same thing he has discussed for over the past 6 months.. Why the fake surprise from the GOP???

Obama’s proposal — which includes $1.6 trillion in increased taxes on the rich over the next decade, $400 billion in savings in Medicare and other social programs, $50 billion in stimulus spending to begin next year, and an end to current debt ceiling rules — is not new or radical: it reflects the very same same policies Obama advanced for years and promoted extensively on the campaign trail.

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ORIGINAL: RacerJim

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

President Obama did NOT win the election?

May I ask just what the good senate minority leader and speaker of the house have been smoking, injecting and or drinking since August?

Lets see, Obama got 50.81 percent of the popular vote compared to Romney's 47.48%. That is a 3.33% which is higher than both the 2000 and 2004 margins for Bush.

Oh well, Republicans have never been known to believe the facts.

pResident Obama/Soetoro may well have won the election but that doesn't make him Dictator.

Oh well, Democraps have never been known to see, much less accept, the facts.

Wait... did Obama win the fucking election or not?

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl
Keep dreaming. [;)]

Dreaming? It hasn't happened yet, has it? There was no allusion to a different result from the popular vote, so what was she dreaming about? Following the rules?!?

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ORIGINAL: RacerJim

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ORIGINAL: subspaceseven

They call it his latest proposal, Yet this has been the same thing he has discussed for over the past 6 months.. Why the fake surprise from the GOP???

Obama’s proposal — which includes $1.6 trillion in increased taxes on the rich over the next decade, $400 billion in savings in Medicare and other social programs, $50 billion in stimulus spending to begin next year, and an end to current debt ceiling rules — is not new or radical: it reflects the very same same policies Obama advanced for years and promoted extensively on the campaign trail.

Specifically when has Obama previously publically proposed changing the debt ceiling rules such that the POTUS can unilaterally raise the debt ceiling, thus disenfranchising Congress from its Constitutional authority? No matter when he proposed that, if that's not radical I don't know what is. Then again, Obama has already disenfranchised Congress from its Constitutional authority regarding other issues, so that is not new.

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl
Keep dreaming. [;)]

Dreaming? It hasn't happened yet, has it? There was no allusion to a different result from the popular vote, so what was she dreaming about? Following the rules?!?

Well.. lets see.... these states are under no legal requirements to cast their electoral votes to the majority winner...
No Legal Requirement
Electors in these States are not bound by State Law to cast their vote for a specific candidate:
ARIZONA
ARKANSAS
DELAWARE 3
GEORGIA
IDAHO
ILLINOIS 20
INDIANA
IOWA 6
KANSAS
KENTUCKY
LOUISIANA
MINNESOTA 10
MISSOURI
NEW HAMPSHIRE 4
NEW JERSEY 14
NEW YORK 29
NORTH DAKOTA
PENNSYLVANIA
RHODE ISLAND
SOUTH DAKOTA
TENNESSEE
TEXAS
UTAH
WEST VIRGINIA
http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/electoral-college/electors.html#restrictions
Those with a number beside them, Obama won as a majority.
Now, considering it would require 64.... yes... 64... would have to vote against the majority in their state.
The numbers are there. The probability isnt.
As of the 2008 presidential election, there has been only one occasion when faithless electors prevented an expected winner from winning the electoral college vote: in December 1836, twenty-three faithless electors prevented Richard Mentor Johnson, the expected candidate, from winning the Vice Presidency. However, Johnson was promptly elected Vice President by the U.S. Senate in February 1837; therefore, faithless electors have never changed the expected final outcome of the entire election process.
He is the next President.