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RE: Nidal Hasen trial now on hold indefinitely - 12/4/2012 6:56:03 PM   
TheHeretic


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This just in the miltary court of appeals has ordered the Judge, Col. Gross removed.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5i5RizWXn-e0dFXknzaT2dmJt46DQ?docId=5e4d640178be4262b2587e1fc442895f



Loved this line in the article:

"But on the flip side, the jury is going to see him in a full beard and may think he is motivated by radical Islamic beliefs. That's what prosecutors and the judge (Gross) were trying to prevent."


Sure. It's not like the Court isn't going to maybe get that impression from the fact that the piece of shit (may all the pigs of Satan butt-fuck him for eternity) was yelling, "Allah ackbar," when he started shooting...

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RE: Nidal Hasen trial now on hold indefinitely - 12/4/2012 8:12:57 PM   
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UCMJ.  I guess they could charge him with that, as well............LOL. 


I am pretty sure that grant had a beard.



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RE: Nidal Hasen trial now on hold indefinitely - 12/4/2012 8:23:24 PM   
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Why there is an indefinite suspension of justice is beyond me at this point.



Well... there's the whole...having the court-martial finding out that it was actually an overt act of Islamic Terrorism and not work place violence, during the final two weeks of the Presidential election might have something to do with it...



Still pissing and moaning about the election huh......... You lost, get over it.



I posted that on 10/23/2012.... do you ever read anything?

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RE: Nidal Hasen trial now on hold indefinitely - 12/5/2012 4:35:21 AM   
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Status: offline 		So I got the date wrong. It doesnt change the fact that you blame everything on Obama.

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RE: Nidal Hasen trial now on hold indefinitely - 12/5/2012 4:38:53 AM   
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I'm going to take a stab at it.
He is still in the army. The army has grooming standards. He accepted these when he joined up.


so add that to the charges, but why delay the trial.

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RE: Nidal Hasen trial now on hold indefinitely - 12/5/2012 8:29:00 AM   
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Status: offline 		To add, yes he is still in the Army drawing Majors' pay. Some claim all of this was to delay the cout-martial longer also try and confuses witnesses, he did not have a beard when he shot up the place.

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RE: Nidal Hasen trial now on hold indefinitely - 12/5/2012 8:33:25 AM   
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Nobody ever showed such reticence in grooming muslim Jihadists during the occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan, after all...

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RE: Nidal Hasen trial now on hold indefinitely - 12/5/2012 9:01:22 AM   
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So I got the date wrong. It doesnt change the fact that you blame everything on Obama.



Man your obsession with my posts are sad.

You do realize in America from the Federal to State to Local we have three branch government and regular, fixed date elections. It can never be one persons "fault".

Our current economic issues lie in the fact that for the last 70 years neither party wanted to tackle the massive economic problem everyone knew would finally catch up to us.

There is plenty of blame for everyone.


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RE: Nidal Hasen trial now on hold indefinitely - 12/5/2012 9:09:40 AM   
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Why isn't forcibly shaving the tit an option?
Nobody ever showed such reticence in grooming muslim Jihadists during the occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan, after all...


It may be, and there are honorably serving muslims in our armed forces as are other religions, and there are exceptions made for some things, I think they do not want to offend the honorably serving here, and so it is more an issue of: 

What is the official military policy on muslims and beards? Is it a requirement of their religion? (some are like the hassidic in this respect, and do not cut the corners of their beards)  How do we sort out those trying to get over from those who actually hold this belief?  Is a nation of Islam guy a real practicing muslim?

I think it is a consideration of policy at this point.

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RE: Nidal Hasen trial now on hold indefinitely - 12/5/2012 1:13:40 PM   
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Is a nation of Islam guy a real practicing muslim?

No, he's Louis Farrakhan's bitch, and until the twat who killed Malcolm X grows a beaver, this stuff about his obligation to sport a beard is nonsense.
See? Easy. A moral question is only as difficult as you make it...

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RE: Nidal Hasen trial now on hold indefinitely - 12/5/2012 4:43:33 PM   
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So I got the date wrong. It doesnt change the fact that you blame everything on Obama.



Man your obsession with my posts are sad.

You do realize in America from the Federal to State to Local we have three branch government and regular, fixed date elections. It can never be one persons "fault".

Our current economic issues lie in the fact that for the last 70 years neither party wanted to tackle the massive economic problem everyone knew would finally catch up to us.

There is plenty of blame for everyone.




Laughable then, that you made a link between trial and election, wouldnt you say.

As for your deficit, chaeck the figures, Bush caused a massive rise and the 2008 crash just made it worse. trying to make out I am obsessed with the likes of you doesnt make your postings any better. Keep posting nonsense and others will keep pointing it out.

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RE: Nidal Hasen trial now on hold indefinitely - 12/5/2012 4:46:33 PM   
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See? Easy. A moral question is only as difficult as you make it...


Let's all listen to Der Führer, morals be damned...

See? Easy. Not palatable, or up to my standards, but easy.

Perhaps we need to aim for something more than just "easy" here.

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RE: Nidal Hasen trial now on hold indefinitely - 12/5/2012 8:15:15 PM   
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Why does the Army feel it necessary for him to appear in court shaven?

Universal code of military conduct. Women have to have hair pulled off collar as well even if hair pins could be dangerous to them or others

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RE: Nidal Hasen trial now on hold indefinitely - 12/5/2012 8:18:00 PM   
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Universal code of military conduct.



Uniform Code, not Universal

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RE: Nidal Hasen trial now on hold indefinitely - 12/5/2012 8:22:31 PM   
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Universal code of military conduct.

Uniform Code, not Universal

F'n blackberry yup

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RE: Nidal Hasen trial now on hold indefinitely - 12/5/2012 8:49:17 PM   
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Status: offline 		I don't think it is possible for anyone to be confused about my opinions on this case. If the new judge is going to get the case moving forward, let's roll. When his guilt is as established in the appropriate court of law as it is in my mind, I suggest the gallows be designed from the beginning to be in 100% compliance with the American's With Disablities Act.

To my way of thinking, Major Hasan committed an act of war against his country, when he started shooting. That view is apparently not shared by the people who left, "treason," off the charge sheet. It is what it is. Get this started, and then get it done.





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RE: Nidal Hasen trial now on hold indefinitely - 12/5/2012 11:26:02 PM   
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I don't think it is possible for anyone to be confused about my opinions on this case. If the new judge is going to get the case moving forward, let's roll. When his guilt is as established in the appropriate court of law as it is in my mind, I suggest the gallows be designed from the beginning to be in 100% compliance with the American's With Disablities Act.



You're wrong for that. Now I have a picture in my mind of them rolling him up to the noose the rolling his chair off the the stage until he swings like a tether ball. See what you did.

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RE: Nidal Hasen trial now on hold indefinitely - 12/6/2012 12:25:49 AM   
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RE: Nidal Hasen trial now on hold indefinitely - 12/6/2012 5:17:16 AM   
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To my way of thinking, Major Hasan committed an act of war against his country, when he started shooting. That view is apparently not shared by the people who left, "treason," off the charge sheet. It is what it is. Get this started, and then get it done.


Perhaps your ignorance of what constitutes "an act of war" is the cause of your confusion.

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RE: Nidal Hasen trial now on hold indefinitely - 12/6/2012 6:05:16 PM   
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Universal code of military conduct.

Uniform Code, not Universal

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< Message edited by Powergamz1 -- 12/6/2012 6:06:48 PM >

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