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farglebargle -> Romney redistributes 3 MILLION of your money into his pockets... (10/10/2012 9:13:13 AM)

SELLING DRUGS IN RUSSIA NO LESS!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/09/mitt-romney-bain-tobacco_n_1949812.html

Looks like Mitt took over 3 million in taxpayer dollars to advise russians on how to smoke cigarettes.

Does his Mormon Buddies know, or is it kosher if you tithe the drug profits?




mnottertail -> RE: Romney redistributes 3 MILLION of your money into his pockets... (10/10/2012 9:16:37 AM)

Willard want's to take your jobs away and give you cigarettes!!!!! 

The Jobs Lobby




subspaceseven -> RE: Romney redistributes 3 MILLION of your money into his pockets... (10/10/2012 9:43:54 AM)

This like the jobs report will be shown to be nothing more than dirty politics, just like the teabagger who forced his mistress to get an abortion....




subrob1967 -> RE: Romney redistributes 3 MILLION of your money into his pockets... (10/10/2012 10:49:13 AM)

Um, so the fuck what... Mitt made a shitload of money, not big shocker there.[sm=spam.gif]




FMRFGOPGAL -> RE: Romney redistributes 3 MILLION of your money into his pockets... (10/10/2012 10:58:25 AM)

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ORIGINAL: farglebargle

SELLING DRUGS IN RUSSIA NO LESS!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/09/mitt-romney-bain-tobacco_n_1949812.html

Looks like Mitt took over 3 million in taxpayer dollars to advise russians on how to smoke cigarettes.

Does his Mormon Buddies know, or is it kosher if you tithe the drug profits?


The must be saying Nyet to being baptized. Perhaps it's okay to poison heathens.
   Perhaps that Olympic trip to Israel wasn't to get Netanyahu to inappropriately involve himself in the election, perhaps Romney wanted  to just find out where he could put the cigarette machines. We all know that from a Mormon perspective Israel is chock-full of heathens.




DesideriScuri -> RE: Romney redistributes 3 MILLION of your money into his pockets... (10/10/2012 3:36:19 PM)

FR,

So, Bain Capital, with Romney at the helm, helped at least one American company expand into a different country?!? The Horrors! He was hired to help them expand, he helped them expand, and then had the gall to accept payment for doing the work he was contracted to do?!?

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Politesub53 -> RE: Romney redistributes 3 MILLION of your money into his pockets... (10/10/2012 4:28:39 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

FR,

So, Bain Capital, with Romney at the helm, helped at least one American company expand into a different country?!? The Horrors! He was hired to help them expand, he helped them expand, and then had the gall to accept payment for doing the work he was contracted to do?!?

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Well I hope you aint expecting your taxpayer funding back. It doesnt seem to worry some of you your taxes helped Romney make money.




DesideriScuri -> RE: Romney redistributes 3 MILLION of your money into his pockets... (10/10/2012 7:39:39 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53
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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
FR,
So, Bain Capital, with Romney at the helm, helped at least one American company expand into a different country?!? The Horrors! He was hired to help them expand, he helped them expand, and then had the gall to accept payment for doing the work he was contracted to do?!?
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Well I hope you aint expecting your taxpayer funding back. It doesnt seem to worry some of you your taxes helped Romney make money.


Here's the neat thing, Polite. He started helping RJ Reynolds in 1990. He then approached British American Tobacco in 1992. Then, he was given money under Clinton...
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    In March 1993, the American government gave Bain & Co. a $3.9 million contract to advise Boris Yeltsin's administration on the privatization of the Russian economy, according records detailing the arrangement uncovered by The Huffington Post.


So, Bain worked with some big tobacco companies to help them expand into the USSR, which was falling apart at the time. Then, Bain Capital was given money by the Federal Government (aka hired) to advise Yeltsin on how to privatize the Russian economy after the break up of the Soviet Union.

The article mentions the smoking crisis in Russia, as if it's Romney's fault people are choosing to smoke. The article acknowledges that Romney's role in the tobacco stuff wasn't known, but he was the CEO, so it's all his fault.

Let's not forget that smoking isn't illegal. It's a legal product. Romney and Bain helped at least one American tobacco company, and at least one British tobacco company expand their businesses of providing legal products.

I will say it again, The Horrors!!





Politesub53 -> RE: Romney redistributes 3 MILLION of your money into his pockets... (10/11/2012 3:22:18 AM)

It is debatable if BAT is British or American. It was inititially a joint venture between a British and an American company.

My point still stands....... Romneys firm used taxpayers cash to increase their own business.




DesideriScuri -> RE: Romney redistributes 3 MILLION of your money into his pockets... (10/11/2012 4:37:34 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53
It is debatable if BAT is British or American. It was inititially a joint venture between a British and an American company.
My point still stands....... Romneys firm used taxpayers cash to increase their own business.


Bain was hired to advise Yeltsin. Is there any proof that in that role, Bain helped it's tobacco company clients directly? Or, was that work already done before Yeltsin was advised?

Boeing, MacDonald-Douglass, Lima Tank, Lockheed, etc. have all used taxpayer cash to increase their own businesses, too. Working for the Government will do that, and the pay will be "taxpayer cash."




DomYngBlk -> RE: Romney redistributes 3 MILLION of your money into his pockets... (10/11/2012 6:07:50 AM)

I thought you said you were against Gov't involvement in the market. Which is it? Surely you aren't still claiming to be a libertarian.




Lucylastic -> RE: Romney redistributes 3 MILLION of your money into his pockets... (10/11/2012 7:01:22 AM)

Only if its called solyndra or involves green energy




farglebargle -> RE: Romney redistributes 3 MILLION of your money into his pockets... (10/11/2012 7:29:50 AM)

Man, the real thing is that the whole Solyndra thing could have actually worked **IF** the Republicans in Congress had passed some actual tariffs in support of American businesses.

Solyndra's lunch got eaten by the Chinese, who with their slave labor just make shit so much cheaper. Of course, that's the role of Government to regulate international commerce so that Americans can build and grow their own businesses.




mnottertail -> RE: Romney redistributes 3 MILLION of your money into his pockets... (10/11/2012 7:32:22 AM)

They wanted to destroy our country the teabaggers in the house.




DesideriScuri -> RE: Romney redistributes 3 MILLION of your money into his pockets... (10/11/2012 1:36:04 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DomYngBlk
I thought you said you were against Gov't involvement in the market. Which is it? Surely you aren't still claiming to be a libertarian.


What the fuck are you blathering on about this time? Did the government hire Bain to advise Boris Yeltsin in how to privatize (the previously not privatized) Russian economy? Why, it sure seems that way.

How is that Gov't involvement in the Market?

You are continuing to reveal how clueless you are about Libertarians.




mnottertail -> RE: Romney redistributes 3 MILLION of your money into his pockets... (10/11/2012 1:39:53 PM)

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Did the government hire Bain to advise Boris Yeltsin in how to privatize (the previously not privatized) Russian economy? Why, it sure seems that way.

How is that Gov't involvement in the Market?


Well, as long as foriegn goverments do this sort of thing constantly, and hand us our ass, and domestic governments do it so the corporations can hand us our ass,  I guess it doesn't affect the market and we should blowhole about the free market and stupid shit like that all day....

*FACEPALM*






Politesub53 -> RE: Romney redistributes 3 MILLION of your money into his pockets... (10/11/2012 5:04:41 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53
It is debatable if BAT is British or American. It was inititially a joint venture between a British and an American company.
My point still stands....... Romneys firm used taxpayers cash to increase their own business.


Bain was hired to advise Yeltsin. Is there any proof that in that role, Bain helped it's tobacco company clients directly? Or, was that work already done before Yeltsin was advised?

Boeing, MacDonald-Douglass, Lima Tank, Lockheed, etc. have all used taxpayer cash to increase their own businesses, too. Working for the Government will do that, and the pay will be "taxpayer cash."


Hey brains....... youre arguing with your previous statement which said, in your own words ;

"Romney and Bain helped at least one American tobacco company, and at least one British tobacco company expand their businesses of providing legal products."






DesideriScuri -> RE: Romney redistributes 3 MILLION of your money into his pockets... (10/11/2012 7:24:49 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53
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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
quote:

ORIGINAL: Politesub53
It is debatable if BAT is British or American. It was inititially a joint venture between a British and an American company.
My point still stands....... Romneys firm used taxpayers cash to increase their own business.

Bain was hired to advise Yeltsin. Is there any proof that in that role, Bain helped it's tobacco company clients directly? Or, was that work already done before Yeltsin was advised?
Boeing, MacDonald-Douglass, Lima Tank, Lockheed, etc. have all used taxpayer cash to increase their own businesses, too. Working for the Government will do that, and the pay will be "taxpayer cash."

Hey brains....... youre arguing with your previous statement which said, in your own words ;
"Romney and Bain helped at least one American tobacco company, and at least one British tobacco company expand their businesses of providing legal products."


Yep, and those companies were helped prior to being hired to advise Yeltsin. Clearly, those are two separate things. Bain helped tobacco companies get into the Russian economy. Unless you have proof that Bain used any taxpayer money to work on tobacco's behalf, your argument has no basis.




Hillwilliam -> RE: Romney redistributes 3 MILLION of your money into his pockets... (10/11/2012 8:35:42 PM)

Here's the only problem I have with it.

Romney is an elder in the Mormon church
Said church forbids the use of any stimulants including nicotine.
Romney made Millions selling said stumulants.

It's almost like if you found out that the vice Preident of the Southern Baptists owned a chain of liquor stores and a coupla dance halls.

It's totally legal but DAYUMMMMM




DesideriScuri -> RE: Romney redistributes 3 MILLION of your money into his pockets... (10/12/2012 4:52:01 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam
Here's the only problem I have with it.
Romney is an elder in the Mormon church
Said church forbids the use of any stimulants including nicotine.
Romney made Millions selling said stumulants.
It's almost like if you found out that the vice Preident of the Southern Baptists owned a chain of liquor stores and a coupla dance halls.
It's totally legal but DAYUMMMMM


I can see your point, and do see the duplicity. However, I think we can agree that not everyone is Mormon, a fact which even Romney would agree with. And, since he was actually using the cigarettes, he wasn't "breaking" any Mormon doctrines. Maybe it's a technicality that he wasn't actually selling them, either.

I do see where you're coming from, and acknowledge the questionable activities.




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