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Space Shuttle Endeavour - 9/19/2012 1:35:16 AM   
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http://news.yahoo.com/watch-space-shuttle-endeavours-ferry-flight-online-today-065140808.html

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RE: Space Shuttle Endeavour - 9/19/2012 2:51:12 AM   
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have a successor spaceplane...

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orion_(Constellation_program)
The new vehicle isn't just a step backward IMO
It's a leap...
They went from a vehicle that could glide and
land on a runway to a re-entry capsule!
They had those in I Dream of Genie for crying
out loud.

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http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/CST-100
Omg... Obama you asshole...

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RE: Space Shuttle Endeavour - 9/19/2012 2:57:15 AM   
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RE: Space Shuttle Endeavour - 9/19/2012 9:14:42 AM   
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Status: offline 		Well Canada has been spending funds all over the place for useless reasons...maybe someone will buy a clue and do something neat for once, like establish a few space vehicles. That would be cool.

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RE: Space Shuttle Endeavour - 9/19/2012 10:19:58 AM   
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I am looking forward to the footage of it traveling through L.A.....

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RE: Space Shuttle Endeavour - 9/19/2012 8:00:36 PM   
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I am looking forward to the footage of it traveling through L.A.....


They'll be flying low passes over my area on Friday morning. Pics promised, if I get any good ones!

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RE: Space Shuttle Endeavour - 9/19/2012 8:22:56 PM   
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RE: Space Shuttle Endeavour - 9/19/2012 11:42:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		A sad end to a fantastic idea space travel truly is stepping backwards, but who to step up to the plate next- China ?

And what happened to HOTOL ?

As to think about it HOTOL or a derivative is the next logical step forward as it uses it's own engines to take off from the horizontal, obtain space, deliver then land again under it's own engines, engines that are jet in air and convert to rocket in space, then back again.


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RE: Space Shuttle Endeavour - 9/19/2012 11:52:30 PM   
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RE: Space Shuttle Endeavour - 9/20/2012 7:40:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		Endeavor arrived at Edwards Air Force Base, early this afternoon. It turns out that I was able to get close enough for a decent snapshot.






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RE: Space Shuttle Endeavour - 9/20/2012 8:06:48 PM   
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I was really not impressed that they don't
have a successor spaceplane...

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orion_(Constellation_program)
The new vehicle isn't just a step backward IMO
It's a leap...
They went from a vehicle that could glide and
land on a runway to a re-entry capsule!
They had those in I Dream of Genie for crying
out loud.

-Aries

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/CST-100
Omg... Obama you asshole...


Spaceplanes are too problematic. Unless it's small enough to be launched on top of a rocket, they are inherently unsafe (the re-entry shield is exposed to damage). They are less weight efficient than capsules. There is no powered abort mechanism. Etc...

Until a plane is designed with an engine efficient enough to propel it into space under its own power (without a rocket to get it there), capsules are superior.

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RE: Space Shuttle Endeavour - 9/20/2012 9:23:08 PM   
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RE: Space Shuttle Endeavour - 9/21/2012 2:22:46 PM   
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RE: Space Shuttle Endeavour - 9/21/2012 2:48:51 PM   
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ORIGINAL: SWDesertDom


quote:

ORIGINAL: ARIES83

I was really not impressed that they don't
have a successor spaceplane...

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orion_(Constellation_program)
The new vehicle isn't just a step backward IMO
It's a leap...
They went from a vehicle that could glide and
land on a runway to a re-entry capsule!
They had those in I Dream of Genie for crying
out loud.

-Aries

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/CST-100
Omg... Obama you asshole...


Spaceplanes are too problematic. Unless it's small enough to be launched on top of a rocket, they are inherently unsafe (the re-entry shield is exposed to damage). They are less weight efficient than capsules. There is no powered abort mechanism. Etc...

Until a plane is designed with an engine efficient enough to propel it into space under its own power (without a rocket to get it there), capsules are superior.



HOTOL was designed to be that in the early 1980's, but now I understand the project has been picked up again under the name SKYLON


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RE: Space Shuttle Endeavour - 9/21/2012 3:13:14 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: ARIES83

I was really not impressed that they don't
have a successor spaceplane...

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orion_(Constellation_program)
The new vehicle isn't just a step backward IMO
It's a leap...
They went from a vehicle that could glide and
land on a runway to a re-entry capsule!
They had those in I Dream of Genie for crying
out loud.

-Aries

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/CST-100
Omg... Obama you asshole...


Spaceplanes are too problematic. Unless it's small enough to be launched on top of a rocket, they are inherently unsafe (the re-entry shield is exposed to damage). They are less weight efficient than capsules. There is no powered abort mechanism. Etc...

Until a plane is designed with an engine efficient enough to propel it into space under its own power (without a rocket to get it there), capsules are superior.



Ask and you shall receive...or at least it looks like it might be getting close: http://www.wimp.com/prototypeengine/

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RE: Space Shuttle Endeavour - 9/21/2012 4:08:30 PM   
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RE: Space Shuttle Endeavour - 9/21/2012 6:47:32 PM   
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RE: Space Shuttle Endeavour - 9/22/2012 9:53:45 AM   
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THIS is what I would love to watch. FML. It's all going to go down when I am sleeping.....

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RE: Space Shuttle Endeavour - 9/22/2012 10:16:46 AM   
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Thanks for the pics!!!!!



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RE: Space Shuttle Endeavour - 9/22/2012 10:25:44 AM   
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Thanks again for the pics :) you totally made my day :)

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