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RE: Space Shuttle Endeavour - 9/22/2012 10:28:26 AM

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All the comments here are extremely valid. The way forward is a joint venture which won't happen because space is a big 'look at us aren't we the fucking daddy' kinda political thing & no government wants to share the glory. So as it stands a shuttle replacemnet is way too expensive for most & too technicaly demanding for those who can afford it. & yes I do mean China.

The difficulty is the energy source. Hydrogen Peroxide only gets you so far & the next step is something like a Thorium reaction which then freaks out the tree huggers. The technology is already used elsewhere & just needs bastardising for a propulsion system, if we have the will, the cash, & the imagination.

In closing thanks to the US tax payers for bank rolling the most inspiring era in human evolution the beers are on me (but not for all ya buggers). Thanks top NASA & thanks to the crazies who were perfectly happy to sit atop the worlds biggest firework filled with one of the greaty unstable chemicals.

It is the end of a great era but it has lost it's connection with t5he younger over here.Shame really.

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RE: Space Shuttle Endeavour - 9/22/2012 10:59:08 AM

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If you want a full-size pic, hit me up on the other side, Greedy. The touchdown shot is going to become my new wallpaper.

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RE: Space Shuttle Endeavour - 9/22/2012 11:01:15 AM

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cmail ;)

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RE: Space Shuttle Endeavour - 9/22/2012 11:50:59 AM

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RE: Space Shuttle Endeavour - 9/23/2012 8:21:17 PM

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ORIGINAL: Ninebelowzero

All the comments here are extremely valid. The way forward is a joint venture which won't happen because space is a big 'look at us aren't we the fucking daddy' kinda political thing & no government wants to share the glory. So as it stands a shuttle replacemnet is way too expensive for most & too technicaly demanding for those who can afford it. & yes I do mean China.

The difficulty is the energy source. Hydrogen Peroxide only gets you so far & the next step is something like a Thorium reaction which then freaks out the tree huggers. The technology is already used elsewhere & just needs bastardising for a propulsion system, if we have the will, the cash, & the imagination.

In closing thanks to the US tax payers for bank rolling the most inspiring era in human evolution the beers are on me (but not for all ya buggers). Thanks top NASA & thanks to the crazies who were perfectly happy to sit atop the worlds biggest firework filled with one of the greaty unstable chemicals.

It is the end of a great era but it has lost it's connection with t5he younger over here.Shame really.

That is the biggest problem with the UK we are ruled by politicians that lack vision as they exist from election to election only, as just to think how far we might be advanced if the funding had been maintained to the original HOTOL, but really with government funding it was doomed from the start, they almost did to that what they did to the TSR-2

Where there is much truth in the saying;

All modern aircraft have four dimensions: span, length, height and politics. TSR-2 simply got the first three right.~By Sir Sydney Camm

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RE: Space Shuttle Endeavour - 9/24/2012 2:27:53 AM

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Some photos I took Friday morning at Moffett Field/NASA Ames:

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RE: Space Shuttle Endeavour - 9/24/2012 2:30:26 AM

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RE: Space Shuttle Endeavour - 9/24/2012 2:36:27 AM

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I was really not impressed that they don't have a successor spaceplane...
The new vehicle isn't just a step backward IMO It's a leap...

The Shuttle was definitely innovative, complex, and ambitious – but it could be argued it went too far in those directions. As SWDesertDom pointed out, there were significant problems inherent to the design. The enthusiasm with which Endeavor was bid farewell is, I think, fairly illustrative of some sort of success as a source of inspiration; however, there is a pragmatic case to me made that a program with a 1.48% catastrophic failure rate, fourteen lives lost, a lack of capabilities beyond LEO, and significantly reduced payload versus the Saturn V actually marked a step back from the previous program. The Shuttle never lived up to the reliability or launch frequencies that were its supposed advantages and, at $450 million a launch, it didn't end up being cheaper than expendable launch vehicles, either. A return to capsules might superficially seem like a step back, but conservative design isn't necessarily always a bad thing for progress.

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Actually the private spaceship companies seem close to making it to the ISS.

They already made it – at least for cargo. A SpaceX Dragon craft successfully docked with the ISS in May.

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RE: Space Shuttle Endeavour - 10/12/2012 2:08:22 AM

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http://news.yahoo.com/space-shuttle-embarks-12-mile-trip-la-museum-072701933--finance.html

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RE: Space Shuttle Endeavour - 10/14/2012 6:11:24 PM

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Well, it finally made it.

http://news.yahoo.com/endeavour-finally-reaches-permanent-la-museum-home-212022512--finance.html

GOD, how I wish I could have been there... *SIGH*

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