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Ryan Co-Sponsored Todd ‘Legit Rape’ Akin Bill To Re... - 8/20/2012 7:25:38 PM   
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RE: Ryan Co-Sponsored Todd ‘Legit Rape’ Akin Bill T... - 8/21/2012 4:46:40 AM   
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Status: offline 		Huh....How come no conservatives are responding????? I mean their platform is all about banning abortion and taking away women's rights...

Some vetting process Willard has, first it's Ryan-Rommey on the budget, so he has to come out and flip flop with his ideals vrs Ryans

Now the abortion issue, where ryan wants personhood and helped write the bill, while Willard says abortion Ok in certain cases

Willard can't control his own VP pick, how is he suppose to run the country

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RE: Ryan Co-Sponsored Todd ‘Legit Rape’ Akin Bill T... - 8/21/2012 5:01:21 AM   
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Not necessarily the Conservatives here, but those deeply entrenched Bible Proselytizing types, who know what's best for everyone, just ask them.

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RE: Ryan Co-Sponsored Todd ‘Legit Rape’ Akin Bill T... - 8/21/2012 7:56:18 AM   
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Status: offline 		Yea, that is the problem the GOP is having, in their primaries they get very low voter turn out, so it gives these nut cases a platform they have to address in the general elections..... Gee...guess that is what happens when you cater to one group...just to win a primary

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RE: Ryan Co-Sponsored Todd ‘Legit Rape’ Akin Bill T... - 8/21/2012 8:07:57 AM   
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Yea, that is the problem the GOP is having, in their primaries they get very low voter turn out, so it gives these nut cases a platform they have to address in the general elections..... Gee...guess that is what happens when you cater to one group...just to win a primary

The Dems have the same problem.

There is now a candidate with a (D) after his name running against Bob Corker this fall who is a member of an Anti-Gay hate group. Low turnout made it possible.
This could be the first time in history that a Republican running for Senate is to the idealogical left of the Democratic candidate.

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RE: Ryan Co-Sponsored Todd ‘Legit Rape’ Akin Bill T... - 8/21/2012 8:32:43 AM   
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Huh....How come no conservatives are responding????? I mean their platform is all about banning abortion and taking away women's rights...

Some vetting process Willard has, first it's Ryan-Rommey on the budget, so he has to come out and flip flop with his ideals vrs Ryans

Now the abortion issue, where ryan wants personhood and helped write the bill, while Willard says abortion Ok in certain cases

Willard can't control his own VP pick, how is he suppose to run the country





This has been a clear pattern among our cowardly-cons, here.

liz and his new buddy pop in ever so often to whine and blubber some nonsense but the really tough,challenging topics seems to scare our republicans right out of the debate.

Prolly an extension of the horrible gop-primary and their less than stellar pick.......as well as Mitt`s subsequent and continuous gaff-track.

Ever since Mitt`s BOLD VP pick......and it`s unintended consequences....they`re even less emboldened.



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RE: Ryan Co-Sponsored Todd ‘Legit Rape’ Akin Bill T... - 8/21/2012 8:57:34 AM   
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RE: Ryan Co-Sponsored Todd ‘Legit Rape’ Akin Bill T... - 8/21/2012 9:07:01 AM   
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Status: offline 		So are you denying that Ryan and he co-sponsored the bill?  Find it irrelevant?  What? 

I get not wanting to respond to a bullshit source.  However, a little fact checking and I was able to look up a lot of it on my own and verify facts.  Many others will, too.  What I found is troubling.  So, it's likely to be a problem for the Romney ticket for many voters, especially women.  Yet, the conservatives are oddly quiet on this thread...




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RE: Ryan Co-Sponsored Todd ‘Legit Rape’ Akin Bill T... - 8/21/2012 9:11:24 AM   
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Status: offline 		Nope, I don't have a problem with Ryan cosponsoring this bill... 1) He's Catholic, so it shouldn't surprise anyone... and 2) The federal government shouldn't be funding abortions period... There are plenty of private groups willing to fund groups like PP, the government needs to stop wasting money on these social programs, it's not the job of government to coddle citizens from cradle to grave... This isn't Europe.

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RE: Ryan Co-Sponsored Todd ‘Legit Rape’ Akin Bill T... - 8/21/2012 9:17:51 AM   
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RE: Ryan Co-Sponsored Todd ‘Legit Rape’ Akin Bill T... - 8/21/2012 9:21:02 AM   
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Status: offline 		No, they just coddle them in the womb, make sure they get spat out at prohibitive cost to the biological mother who should not be entitled to reproductive health care, birth control, or victim assistance (in the cases of a rape which was not violent enough to meet the requirements they sought to create) and then refuse to deal with it.  Visionaries, the lot of them...


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RE: Ryan Co-Sponsored Todd ‘Legit Rape’ Akin Bill T... - 8/21/2012 9:27:29 AM   
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No, they just coddle them in the womb, make sure they get spat out at prohibitive cost to the biological mother who should not be entitled to reproductive health care, birth control, or victim assistance (in the cases of a rape which was not violent enough to meet the requirements they sought to create) and then refuse to deal with it.  Visionaries, the lot of them...



Who said life was fair? Bad things happen to good people every minute of every day... That still doesn't mean the federal government should be involved, if you want the government to control your every decision, vote locally, this is a state's rights issue.

What percentage of rapes ends up in pregnancy which threatens the woman's health?

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RE: Ryan Co-Sponsored Todd ‘Legit Rape’ Akin Bill T... - 8/21/2012 9:31:05 AM   
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No, they just coddle them in the womb, make sure they get spat out at prohibitive cost to the biological mother who should not be entitled to reproductive health care, birth control, or victim assistance (in the cases of a rape which was not violent enough to meet the requirements they sought to create) and then refuse to deal with it.  Visionaries, the lot of them...



Who said life was fair? Bad things happen to good people every minute of every day... That still doesn't mean the federal government should be involved, if you want the government to control your every decision, vote locally, this is a state's rights issue.

What percentage of rapes ends up in pregnancy which threatens the woman's health?


How about, it`s none of your damm business?

What part of mind your own business do you not understand?

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RE: Ryan Co-Sponsored Todd ‘Legit Rape’ Akin Bill T... - 8/21/2012 9:33:33 AM   
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Perhaps we just don't respond to bullshit sources like the one OP uses with great relish.



Oh ...you mean Ryan didn`t co-sponsor the bill?

That`s kinda funny cuz he did.......

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RE: Ryan Co-Sponsored Todd ‘Legit Rape’ Akin Bill T... - 8/21/2012 9:37:24 AM   
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How about, it`s none of your damm business?

What part of mind your own business do you not understand?



Really? You have the balls to tell ME to mind my own business when YOU started this bullshit thread? Are you really this dumb? Or is it just an act?

Why is it YOUR business but not mine?

The fact that the federal government uses MY tax dollars to fund these programs makes it MY business... Now can you explain why it's YOUR business to start these threads?

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RE: Ryan Co-Sponsored Todd ‘Legit Rape’ Akin Bill T... - 8/21/2012 9:39:31 AM   
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No, they just coddle them in the womb, make sure they get spat out at prohibitive cost to the biological mother who should not be entitled to reproductive health care, birth control, or victim assistance (in the cases of a rape which was not violent enough to meet the requirements they sought to create) and then refuse to deal with it.  Visionaries, the lot of them...



Who said life was fair? Bad things happen to good people every minute of every day... That still doesn't mean the federal government should be involved, if you want the government to control your every decision, vote locally, this is a state's rights issue.

What percentage of rapes ends up in pregnancy which threatens the woman's health?


Yeah, but some bad things CAN'T happen to 50% of the population.  A guy can be raped, but he can't be impregnated by rape, can he?  Nope.  So, sorry, you are welcome to your opinion, but until you have a baby producing system that has permanent residence in one of your orifices, you are not going to understand the inequality in all of this that has nothing to do with life being "fair".

So, my answer is, what percentage of rapes end up in pregnancy that threatens the woman's heath?  100% more than those that threaten a man's health.  Which is good enough for me.

This is not a STATE'S rights issue.  This is a WOMAN'S rights issue.  And since they make up approximately 50% of the population, and 50% of the possible voting population, it's a big deal.  You might not want it to matter on a grander scale, but hey, life's not fair.  Right?


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RE: Ryan Co-Sponsored Todd ‘Legit Rape’ Akin Bill T... - 8/21/2012 9:43:41 AM   
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RE: Ryan Co-Sponsored Todd ‘Legit Rape’ Akin Bill T... - 8/21/2012 9:55:30 AM   
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How about, it`s none of your damm business?

What part of mind your own business do you not understand?



Really? You have the balls to tell ME to mind my own business when YOU started this bullshit thread? Are you really this dumb? Or is it just an act?

Why is it YOUR business but not mine?

The fact that the federal government uses MY tax dollars to fund these programs makes it MY business... Now can you explain why it's YOUR business to start these threads?



I`m not butting in other folk`s business or having the government intrude on other folks private business......

You and your party, are.....

Take a breath.Reread the thread and learn something.

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RE: Ryan Co-Sponsored Todd ‘Legit Rape’ Akin Bill T... - 8/21/2012 9:57:15 AM   
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No, they just coddle them in the womb, make sure they get spat out at prohibitive cost to the biological mother who should not be entitled to reproductive health care, birth control, or victim assistance (in the cases of a rape which was not violent enough to meet the requirements they sought to create) and then refuse to deal with it.  Visionaries, the lot of them...



Who said life was fair? Bad things happen to good people every minute of every day... That still doesn't mean the federal government should be involved, if you want the government to control your every decision, vote locally, this is a state's rights issue.

What percentage of rapes ends up in pregnancy which threatens the woman's health?


Yeah, but some bad things CAN'T happen to 50% of the population.  A guy can be raped, but he can't be impregnated by rape, can he?  Nope.  So, sorry, you are welcome to your opinion, but until you have a baby producing system that has permanent residence in one of your orifices, you are not going to understand the inequality in all of this that has nothing to do with life being "fair".

So, my answer is, what percentage of rapes end up in pregnancy that threatens the woman's heath?  100% more than those that threaten a man's health.  Which is good enough for me.

This is not a STATE'S rights issue.  This is a WOMAN'S rights issue.  And since they make up approximately 50% of the population, and 50% of the possible voting population, it's a big deal.  You might not want it to matter on a grander scale, but hey, life's not fair.  Right?



This.....

Thanks and yes......please stay....

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RE: Ryan Co-Sponsored Todd ‘Legit Rape’ Akin Bill T... - 8/21/2012 9:57:56 AM   
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Nope, I don't have a problem with Ryan cosponsoring this bill... 1) He's Catholic, so it shouldn't surprise anyone...

Are you saying he has the right to cram his religious beliefs down everyone else's throat?

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