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Owner59 -> Mitt Now Officially A Birther (7/17/2012 8:40:36 PM)

Obama needs to "learn how to be an American."?!



Oh really?!



http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-romney-campaign-20120718,0,7508037.story



And rush claims Obama is playing to the brain-dead?![8|]




DaNewAgeViking -> RE: Mitt Now Officially A Birther (7/17/2012 9:29:22 PM)

Oh, come now, you knew this was going to come up, so why the surprise?

Sad; this is what leadership in this country has come to.

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DarkSteven -> RE: Mitt Now Officially A Birther (7/17/2012 9:32:52 PM)

Uh, no. Romney didn't say that. There's some question to what degree Sununu was going off message.

I suspect that Sununu may have simply "birthed" over Obama and then retracted later, making a dual statement so to speak. But I think it about as likely that Sununu simply shot off his mouth. Romney's pulling testimonials and endorsements from weird places in the GOP, and Sununu's one of them.




DaNewAgeViking -> RE: Mitt Now Officially A Birther (7/17/2012 9:41:46 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven
...weird places in the GOP...

Now that's a mental image to ponder!
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subrob1967 -> RE: Mitt Now Officially A Birther (7/17/2012 10:27:26 PM)

So Sununu is secretly Mitt Romney in disguise? Maybe that Batman analogy of Rush's wasn't as far fetched as described...lol

Mitt Romney's secret identity turns out to be John Sununu! Tell us Owner, where does he change now that there's no more phone booths? Oh, now we know why he cleans up abortion clinics, he doesn't want to get his cape dirty!




thishereboi -> RE: Mitt Now Officially A Birther (7/18/2012 4:32:49 AM)

Odd, I couldn't find any reference to Obama's birth place being mentioned. So either you have no clue what a "birther" is or you are at a lost for any real news to post and can't stand the thought of being silent. But that's ok. I understand. All that hate has to go somewhere.




kalikshama -> RE: Mitt Now Officially A Birther (7/18/2012 7:09:44 AM)

I've reached my monthly limit of free LA Times articles - would someone please repost? I'd like to answer thishereboi's question about whether this is a legitimate birther issue or not.

From what I can read, the birther logic flows thusly - he wasn't born here, so he's not one of us, and his administration resembles foreign governments.

Romney campaign's attacks on Obama play on 'birther' fears

Mitt Romney says the Obama administration resembles foreign governments, and a chief surrogate for the GOP candidate says the president needs to 'learn how to be an American.'




Lucylastic -> RE: Mitt Now Officially A Birther (7/18/2012 7:18:24 AM)

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/07/17/12791391-romney-surrogate-sununu-i-wish-this-president-would-learn-how-to-be-an-american

from the same place
his apology
http://maddowblog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/07/18/12809967-what-passes-as-a-sununu-apology?lite

not showing bias, just typed it in and gave the first thing that came up:)
On my way out of the door:)




Owner59 -> RE: Mitt Now Officially A Birther (7/18/2012 8:41:20 AM)

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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

Uh, no. Romney didn't say that. There's some question to what degree Sununu was going off message.

I suspect that Sununu may have simply "birthed" over Obama and then retracted later, making a dual statement so to speak. But I think it about as likely that Sununu simply shSunnot off his mouth. Romney's pulling testimonials and endorsements from weird places in the GOP, and Sununu's one of them.


One of his top surrogates said the American comment......that makes it Romney`s comment.

That`s how it works.....I know you know this......

These questions about Mitt didn`t source from the Obama campaign but Sununu is calling the Obama campaign a bunch of liars over them.

Sunnunu`s rant was from the frustration they`re feeling.

They can`t believe their ace in the hole(Bane...er um Bain)is now such a liability.Heard one Dem say he`s running from Bane like a scalded cat.......[:D]

It`s a total rout in that battle and John is angry and lashing out.

I commented on yahoo(where I read the article)that we`ll see who`s lying after Mitt releases the returns......

They are biting off their own teeth off at Mitt headquarters, they are so pissed off.

I can`t wait for the debates.




Owner59 -> RE: Mitt Now Officially A Birther (7/18/2012 8:53:34 AM)

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Odd, I couldn't find any reference to Obama's birth place being mentioned. So either you have no clue what a "birther" is or you are at a lost for any real news to post and can't stand the thought of being silent. But that's ok. I understand. All that hate has to go somewhere.


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So Sununu is secretly Mitt Romney in disguise? Maybe that Batman analogy of Rush's wasn't as far fetched as described...lol

Mitt Romney's secret identity turns out to be John Sununu! Tell us Owner, where does he change now that there's no more phone booths? Oh, now we know why he cleans up abortion clinics, he doesn't want to get his cape dirty!

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Haven`t seen Mitten`s disassociate himself with his top surrogate`s comment......


Till he does........he owns it.


FYI....that`s how it works.....[8|]


If Rahm Emanuel said the same thing about Mittens or something similarly as fucked up,like Mitt wasn`t a real Christian.......the President would HAVE to respond and denounce the comment......or would own the comment too.


No change`n the rules half way through now, cons........




Musicmystery -> RE: Mitt Now Officially A Birther (7/18/2012 9:23:45 AM)

President Obama was never born. He sprung from the foam of the sea.




Lucylastic -> RE: Mitt Now Officially A Birther (7/18/2012 10:10:53 AM)

There was me last night waiting with baited breath for the Arpaio posse to give the birthers something new to cling onto.
What a bloody huge let down, I should have known better, but all this ....what six months, for...NOTHING
It was going to be big, it was gonna prove once and for all that the Prez wasnt born in hawaiii, and.... zilch nada, bugger all, blank, zip, zero naff all.

what a great week this is, apart from the heat!




DesideriScuri -> RE: Mitt Now Officially A Birther (7/18/2012 11:11:03 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: kalikshama
I've reached my monthly limit of free LA Times articles - would someone please repost? I'd like to answer thishereboi's question about whether this is a legitimate birther issue or not.
From what I can read, the birther logic flows thusly - he wasn't born here, so he's not one of us, and his administration resembles foreign governments.
Romney campaign's attacks on Obama play on 'birther' fears
Mitt Romney says the Obama administration resembles foreign governments, and a chief surrogate for the GOP candidate says the president needs to 'learn how to be an American.'


Is he, or is he not working to make the US more like foreign countries? Why, yes, yes he is. I acknowledge that is not entirely a bad thing, either. It's just a thing. It would be bad if he were trying to turn the US into a Depression-era German State,which I am not saying is happening by any stretch. So, the socialization that is being touted by the President and the rest of the Lib/Dem's is pushing us towards a style of government more akin to foreign countries' than our own.

But, that's not what it means to be an American....

http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/07/what_does_it_mean_to_be_an_ame.html

    quote:

    Whether described as a "proposition nation" or a "creedal nation" or simply just "an idea," the United States of America is defined by our way of life. This way of life is rooted in the ideals proclaimed in the Declaration of Independence; in the system of personal liberty and limited government established by the Constitution; in our traditions of self-reliance, personal responsibility, and entrepreneurism; in our emphasis on private property, freedom of contract, and merit-based achievement; in our respect for the rule of law; and in our commitment to affording equal justice to all. Perhaps above all, it is marked by our abiding belief that, as Americans, we have been called to a higher duty in human history. We are the "city upon a hill." We are "the last, best hope of earth."


http://science.jrank.org/pages/7484/Americanization-U-S.html

    quote:

    Americanization refers to processes of "becoming American," and to organized efforts to encourage the transformation of immigrants into "Americans." The term was in informal use in the United States in the mid-nineteenth century, but it is most prominently associated with the movement of that name during the 1910s and early 1920s. The term is often used interchangeably with assimilation.
    The "problem" of Americanization arises because American national identity must be constructed in the absence of primordial ethnic mythology, and in the face of exceptional diversity. There is general recognition that the United States is a "civic nation," rather than an "ethnic nation," in which devotion to "founding principles" is the source of national identity and community. The creedal nature of American identity carries the implication that anyone may "become American" by committing himself or herself to the nation's founding principles, and to their expression in distinctively American symbols and ways of living. However, the propositional nature of American identity carries with it the question of who is capable of the necessary understanding of, and commitment to, American principles, and to the ways of living that they are taken to imply. That seed of doubt has led Americans to scrutinize cultural differences, ethnic consociation, and race as potential indicators of the lack of qualification for trusted membership in the polity, and to insist on outward demonstrations of Americanization by those considered for membership.


http://multifariousone.newsvine.com/_news/2009/08/30/3207807-what-does-it-mean-to-be-an-american

    quote:

    It is said that being an American means sharing a commitment to a set of values and ideals*. But clearly, someone can believe in American ideals without being American.
      To be or to become an American, a person did not have to be any particular national, linguistic, religious, or ethnic background. All he had to do was to commit himself to the political ideology centered on the abstract ideals of liberty, equality, and republicanism. Thus the universalist ideological character of American nationality meant that it was open to anyone who willed to become an American.**


    ** - Philip Gleason, "American Identity and Americanization,"


This, not surprisingly, is not a contention of any birthers.

Whether their claims are true or not (and I don't believe they are true), the birthers sure do know how to get lib's all riled up. It's almost comical.




mnottertail -> RE: Mitt Now Officially A Birther (7/18/2012 11:21:39 AM)

None of that asswipe means being an american, it means asswipe.




Moonhead -> RE: Mitt Now Officially A Birther (7/18/2012 12:57:30 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

President Obama was never born. He sprung from the foam of the sea.

No, that was Sarah Palin. Haven't you see that Botticelli painting? Caribou Barbie has an overlong neck and a fixed rictus grin as well, and it seems likely that she has even less of a figure...




mnottertail -> RE: Mitt Now Officially A Birther (7/18/2012 12:59:18 PM)

I thought all them teabaggers was shit out on a stump and hatched in the sun.




Owner59 -> RE: Mitt Now Officially A Birther (7/18/2012 1:09:11 PM)


For the dim.....these are code words.....about the presidents birthplace......you may have heard of the issue......yes?



Funny thing about Mittens is that NONE of his latest campaign ploys are for the swing voters.....


The birther stuff...the "Obama administration resembles foreign governments" stuff and the other dim-witty-nit-picky critisms that Mitt is throwing, is for the con audiance and NOT to gain the swing vote.

Why is Mitt playing to the con audiance....the "base"?

Is it bcause he still hasn`t won them over yet?

It`s post primary and Mitt is still swinging right.




Moonhead -> RE: Mitt Now Officially A Birther (7/18/2012 1:15:35 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Owner59
Why is Mitt playing to the con audiance....the "base"?

Is it bcause he still hasn`t won them over yet?

That's his own fault for being a Mormon.




mnottertail -> RE: Mitt Now Officially A Birther (7/18/2012 1:26:05 PM)

Because independents and thinking people can see his magic underpants.

The teabaggers and neo-cons are blissfully unaware........

Behold!!! The November slaughter cometh. 




DaddySatyr -> RE: Mitt Now Officially A Birther (7/18/2012 1:33:16 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Owner59
One of his top surrogates said the American comment......that makes it Romney`s comment.


Using this logic, Rev. (and I use that term loosely) Wright was or wasn't speaking for President Ofailya when he asked for God to damn America?



Peace and comfort,



Michael




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