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Owner59 -> Romney Plan for Pre-Existing Conditions Draws Dem Fire (6/14/2012 6:50:02 AM)

And this is no gaff.


http://news.yahoo.com/romney-plan-pre-existing-conditions-draws-dem-fire-100132950--abc-news-politics.html


"Mitt Romney this week has been highlighting his opposition to Obamacare, telling voters and donors of his eagerness to see the U.S. Supreme Court strike the law down and a willingness to do the deed from the White House if the court does not.
"You know, regardless of what they do, it's going to be up to the next president to either repeal and replace Obamacare or to replace Obamacare," Romney told a crowd in Orlando on Tuesday.
But it's Romney's unabashed public opposition to one of the law's most popular provisions - a ban on health insurance company discrimination against people with pre-existing conditions - that is once again stirring the political pot.
The former governor said this week, reiterating a position he's articulated in the past, that only Americans who have had constant, uninterrupted insurance coverage should be guaranteed access to a health plan, regardless of any pre-existing conditions."



jlf1961 -> RE: Romney Plan for Pre-Existing Conditions Draws Dem Fire (6/14/2012 7:24:09 AM)

How many times do the republicans have to come out and state publicly that they do not believe that everyone in the country should have access to health care?

Why dont they come out and tell the truth, they want the the poor and lower middle class and the sick to hurry up and die?

It would be a benefit to them if they would just come out and say that the rich deserve to live and everyone else needs to die to give the rich more room for their estates.



Lucylastic -> RE: Romney Plan for Pre-Existing Conditions Draws Dem Fire (6/14/2012 7:49:27 AM)

"If you cant afford insurance should shut up and qiuetly die "
YAY america of the future[:'(]
fucking sickening



Nosathro -> RE: Romney Plan for Pre-Existing Conditions Draws Dem Fire (6/14/2012 8:05:33 AM)

I am a Health Insurance Agent and I am a Grandfather of a girl with autism.  What is forgetten in this agrument is that many pre-existing conditions do not bar a person from getting health insureance.  Each Insurance Company has it out set of rules.  In many cases, Insurance companies will not approve payment for the condition for a set period of time, then they will cover it.  Or pay at a reduced rate for a period of time, then pay the regular amount.  I have gotten health insureance for clients with pre-existing conditions. 

I also have a granddaughter with conditions that will be with her the rest of her life.  My experience with her has been wonderful, there are going to be people with a life time condition, but that should not bar them from medical treatment.  I do believe that all should have access to it.



fucktoyprincess -> RE: Romney Plan for Pre-Existing Conditions Draws Dem Fire (6/14/2012 8:10:07 AM)

I don't think anyone here is going to dispute what Romney is on record, repeatedly, as saying.

More importantly, why do so many Americans support politicians who are on record with these sorts of policies? Surely not every Republican works in or benefits directly from insurance company profits.

It's one thing when politicians play hide the ball and people inadvertently end up supporting things they don't want.

But when they don't hide the ball. And people still support them. What do you call that, exactly? [&:]



Lucylastic -> RE: Romney Plan for Pre-Existing Conditions Draws Dem Fire (6/14/2012 8:14:07 AM)

you want the polite version or the DSM version? [;)]



jlf1961 -> RE: Romney Plan for Pre-Existing Conditions Draws Dem Fire (6/14/2012 8:22:09 AM)

Who knows, with Romney's opinion about pre existing conditions, his stand on birth control and abortion, and a few other of his statements, we may actually see FEMA death camps in the US if he is elected.



fucktoyprincess -> RE: Romney Plan for Pre-Existing Conditions Draws Dem Fire (6/14/2012 10:37:20 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

you want the polite version or the DSM version? [;)]


I have to say, I'm feeling the not so nice version....:)



erieangel -> RE: Romney Plan for Pre-Existing Conditions Draws Dem Fire (6/14/2012 8:30:20 PM)

Romney is all heart.




Sanity -> RE: Romney Plan for Pre-Existing Conditions Draws Dem Fire (6/14/2012 8:41:41 PM)

Leftists are all heart with other peoples' money.

Or with money the government doesnt have...




Musicmystery -> RE: Romney Plan for Pre-Existing Conditions Draws Dem Fire (6/14/2012 9:34:00 PM)

quote:

Or with money the government doesnt have...


Like the "compassionate conservative" did.



Winterapple -> RE: Romney Plan for Pre-Existing Conditions Draws Dem Fire (6/14/2012 9:56:03 PM)

FR
Mrs Romney has preexisting conditions doesn't
she? She has MS and is a breast cancer
survivor. Does she have insurance coverage?
Not that she needs it married to Mr Moneybags.

I wonder if they have Sucks To Be You bumperstickers
on all their cars? You know the ones they keep
in that elevator garage they're building in one
of their mansions.



Sanity -> RE: Romney Plan for Pre-Existing Conditions Draws Dem Fire (6/15/2012 6:13:52 AM)


Sometimes I wonder if leftists even know that theyre directly dividing Americans, in Winterapples example through class warfare / class envy

Divided nation becoming even more so

If you dont vote for the black guy who is in no way qualified youre called "racist"

If you dont enable freeloaders, if you dont want your nation to come like present day Greece you have no heart... and so on

quote:

ORIGINAL: Winterapple

FR
Mrs Romney has preexisting conditions doesn't
she? She has MS and is a breast cancer
survivor. Does she have insurance coverage?
Not that she needs it married to Mr Moneybags.

I wonder if they have Sucks To Be You bumperstickers
on all their cars? You know the ones they keep
in that elevator garage they're building in one
of their mansions.




Sanity -> RE: Romney Plan for Pre-Existing Conditions Draws Dem Fire (6/15/2012 6:21:35 AM)


I think we can all agree that W was no fiscal conservative

quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

quote:

Or with money the government doesnt have...


Like the "compassionate conservative" did.







Deliena -> RE: Romney Plan for Pre-Existing Conditions Draws Dem Fire (6/15/2012 6:21:58 AM)

The Greek situation (and others in Europe) aren't exactly the same as the economic factors that threaten America, plus universal healthcare really doesn't bankrupt countries much as naysayers would like to indicate. You only have to look at places like Scandinavia to see that, OK the UK is in a recession, a double-dip recession but it isn't healthcare or benefits that caused that.

Giving out that medical care for all would bankrupt the United States of America is like saying if everyone in the United States of America had access to a basic standard of living would bankrupt the nation, it's simply not true and the numbers don't add up. Yes it would require different taxation which people of differing political stances have different opinions on but that is not the same argument at all.



Musicmystery -> RE: Romney Plan for Pre-Existing Conditions Draws Dem Fire (6/15/2012 6:23:15 AM)

A one-sided division? Damn. That's power.



Hillwilliam -> RE: Romney Plan for Pre-Existing Conditions Draws Dem Fire (6/15/2012 6:23:44 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity


I think we can all agree that W was no fiscal conservative

quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

quote:

Or with money the government doesnt have...


Like the "compassionate conservative" did.






W wasn't a conservative period. He was a Republican.



Musicmystery -> RE: Romney Plan for Pre-Existing Conditions Draws Dem Fire (6/15/2012 6:29:08 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam


quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity


I think we can all agree that W was no fiscal conservative

quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

quote:

Or with money the government doesnt have...


Like the "compassionate conservative" did.



W wasn't a conservative period. He was a Republican.

There are no fiscally conservative Republicans -- they want to rely on magically "growing" our way into a surplus and cutting the programs they oppose anyway, while continuing to fund military projects the military doesn't even want and cutting taxes to further worsen the situation.

Even with rapid growth (not likely), the numbers just aren't there.



Sanity -> RE: Romney Plan for Pre-Existing Conditions Draws Dem Fire (6/15/2012 6:29:38 AM)


Thats not true, entitlements (generally) are what are killing us.

If Greeces health care system is free why is the Greek government cutting into the bone in that area to save costs

http://www.vancouversun.com/business/Greece+Health+system+crumbles+cuts+bite/6784667/story.html



Deliena -> RE: Romney Plan for Pre-Existing Conditions Draws Dem Fire (6/15/2012 6:36:33 AM)

If Greece hasn't got money for *anything* why shouldn't they make cuts if they can in all areas? I don't understand your argument. They are attempting to keep both healthcare available and open and reduce the pressure on a stretched economy, that's called balancing the books. They've failed and it's too late, but my point stands, healthcare didn't bankrupt Greece.



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