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LafayetteLady -> RE: Detoxifying the body, or at least the saliva (6/2/2012 1:30:06 PM)

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ORIGINAL: JstAnotherSub


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ORIGINAL: LafayetteLady

Of course the effects have worn off, but that is not what employers are looking for and that seems to be the issue here.  While you may not care what people do in their off hours, many employers do. 

Sorry, but whether you care what people do or don't do is irrelevant in this situation and indeed, any situation involving an employer wanting a drug test where you are not the employer.  The bottom line still amounts to whether or not the drug is legal in the state you are in.  If it isn't, then you are breaking the law, regardless of whether or not you think it should be legal.  Obviously, for some, smoking marijuana is more important than getting or keeping a job, not to mention the whole effort to detox so you can pass the test is dishonest.  Or is honesty something employers shouldn't be interested in either?

I have had the same job since 1995. This is for a part time job. If I am misunderstanding you, please forgive me, but you seem to have some holier than thou attitude about this, as if I am some reefer madness broad who is sitting around, smoking pot and allowing others to take care of me.

The job I have now tests new employees. The part time one I would like to get does that now also. I have been friends with folks that work for them for 30 years or more, and they were hired before the testing began at that job.

Anal sex and giving head are illegal many places, as are many other things that most of us here like to do.

I am not being dishonest or trying to screw an employer into hiring a drug addict. I am wanting to be an asset to their company, and I happen to know for a fact that whether or not I smoke a lil weed on weekends does not, in any way, affect my ability to be that asset.


I have not said, nor implied you are some "reefer madness broad."  Nor do I believe that you can't be an asset to their company.  Neither of those things matter, just as your view that marijuana should be legalized is irrelevant.  At this point in time, it is not.  You are not only willing, but fully intending to be dishonest by trying to "fool" a drug test.

I don't believe I am acting "holier than thou," but I do admit that marijana, contrary to NORML's implied claims, is the be all/end all of medical therapy and in fact, a good number of the people who want it for their "condition" ignore the reality that it is contraindicated for their condition, as well as the reality that so many people with prescriptions really don't have a health problem that warrants the prescription.

Are you really going to sit there with your "holier than thou" attitude and state that you aren't intending to attempt to be dishonest by trying to "detox" for the drug test?




angelikaJ -> RE: Detoxifying the body, or at least the saliva (6/2/2012 1:43:20 PM)

The OP's would be employer knew her well, understand her habits, gave her a heads up and offered her a test that she would pass as long as she wasn't Darwin Award material.


I really don't think any kibitzing is necessary.

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JstAnotherSub -> RE: Detoxifying the body, or at least the saliva (6/2/2012 1:47:34 PM)

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Are you really going to sit there with your "holier than thou" attitude and state that you aren't intending to attempt to be dishonest by trying to "detox" for the drug test?
Yep, I am. I do not feel it is dishonest at all, any more than wearing mascara, so I don't look dead, is dishonest. It is putting my best foot forward.

We can just agree to disagree on this one.




Karmastic -> RE: Detoxifying the body, or at least the saliva (6/3/2012 1:06:59 AM)


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ORIGINAL: LafayetteLady

While I realize your need to always be right and to attempt to argue every point to death, the fact is technically, if you test positive for the drug it is in your system.  You may not feel the effects anymore, but the drug is in your system.

Regardless of that, employers do tend to frown on employees engaging in illegal activities, even if done in their free time away from work.

i certainly do not have a "need" to be right, because i'm mature enough to grasp that when i'm wrong, i've learned something new.

i can't and won't try to speak for you and what need drives you to behave as you do. i think your own words do that best :)




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