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LOL anti ProDomme cmail of the day - 5/24/2012 2:36:08 AM   
MissKittyDeVine


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´Good luck. You've narrowed yourself down to about 1/10th of 1/10th of 1/10th of the male population, who you would probably call disgusting dickheads anyway. Great. Just what us sub males need: another woman to exploit us for money. Gee, hard to find that, isn't it?´

1. I´m open about being a ProDomme
2. Can someone in their 50s not display more mature behaviour?
3. No, I don´t call subs disgusting dickheads - although I might make the odd exception



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RE: LOL anti ProDomme cmail of the day - 5/24/2012 3:33:40 AM   
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I dont get these types of emails. If your profile clearly states what you are offering, and I`m guessing it does, then why can`t guys just move on ? My guess would be subbie guys miffed at not getting a kink fulfilled, are so enraged they have to interact with you at some level. (Somewhat Ironic since I am answering your post...lol )

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RE: LOL anti ProDomme cmail of the day - 5/24/2012 4:46:59 AM   
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That looks like a fairly mild message to me, frankly. It's not that funny, so I'm not sure why you posted it.

Pros on here learn early on they have many detractors who view them as mean women who wish to exploit poor lil subby boys. Ah well, if there weren't so many subby boys paying for their services, there would not be so many pros on this site.

Should they be more mature about it? Sure. And some people are only five feet tall, when they *should* be six feet tall. The immature people can grow up, *I* can't. I will remain five feet tall (or less) for the rest of my life.

My point: I am what I am; best get used to it.







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RE: LOL anti ProDomme cmail of the day - 5/24/2012 4:59:27 AM   
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My only issue with pro-dommes is that some make subs read a long profile before coming out with the fact they require financial recompense. I think a pro-domme category would help on the site enormously. In my opinion it shouldn't stigmatise if people genuinely believe there is nothing wrong with pro-dommes, as seems to be the case on Collarchat.

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RE: LOL anti ProDomme cmail of the day - 5/24/2012 5:23:39 AM   
MissKittyDeVine


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I put right at the top of my profile that I am a ProDomme. Chatte, I posted the message not because it is intrinsically funny, but because it made me laugh that this person wasted their time writing a pointless message (and yes, I probably shouldn´t waste my time commenting on it).

PoliteSub (who is well named) nailed it IMO - Anon was hitting out at me, someone who has never interacted with him, because he hasn´t been able to get what he wants and chooses to blame a random Pro Domme for that.

Mostly I laugh, delete and forget. This time, I wanted to muse out loud why someone bothers sending these daft messages. Do they really think it has an effect? Shrug ...

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RE: LOL anti ProDomme cmail of the day - 5/24/2012 5:32:21 AM   
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Ah I see, it was more of a "what do they get out of it?" question.

Other than venting, I have no idea. Although I have to say, I have heard Anax's suggestion of: "I think a pro-domme category would help on the site enormously" many times before and disagree. Why? B/c I think it would make it much easier for these whiners to find pros to "vent" to, and being a pro on this site has to be difficult enough.

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RE: LOL anti ProDomme cmail of the day - 5/24/2012 5:52:24 AM   
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1. I keep sticking on him using some weirdness for "0.1%".
2. He evidently thinks that all Dommes use verbal humiliation.
3. If he's in his 50s with that kind of attitude, I suspect he's just started looking. He's either freshly single or more likely married and looking.
4. He wants a woman to indulge his kinks for free. He doesn't know the difference between a sub and a bottom, nor between a Domme and a service top.
5. His attitude stinks, he makes it clear up front that he resents paying for things, and he's hitting on one of the more attractive Dommes. Lotsa luck, pal. Reach for the stars and whine at the outset about it being hard.

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RE: LOL anti ProDomme cmail of the day - 5/24/2012 5:53:32 AM   
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Yes, that´s what I meant. Excuse me if it wasn´t clear.

I suppose some of them could also be attention-seeking.

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RE: LOL anti ProDomme cmail of the day - 5/24/2012 5:56:37 AM   
MissKittyDeVine


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Aw, Steven, if I only had a beard fetish ...

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RE: LOL anti ProDomme cmail of the day - 5/24/2012 6:33:06 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: MissKittyDeVine

Aw, Steven, if I only had a beard fetish ...


Hey now there is a toilet in his picture too.

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RE: LOL anti ProDomme cmail of the day - 5/24/2012 7:10:20 AM   
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I'm clean shaven now (I shave every year from March to November). Become a sub and get over here, novia.

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RE: LOL anti ProDomme cmail of the day - 5/24/2012 8:03:49 AM   
MissKittyDeVine


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Stubble, mate, stubble.

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RE: LOL anti ProDomme cmail of the day - 5/24/2012 9:55:38 AM   
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If you think that is entertaining or want to see some really interesting msgs....put the words female supremacy in your profile and see how many msgs you get. Some of them might even be from some of the forum posters.

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RE: LOL anti ProDomme cmail of the day - 5/24/2012 2:33:29 PM   
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quote:

My only issue with pro-dommes is that some make subs read a long profile before coming out with the fact they require financial recompense.


Here we go again with the unquantified complaint about "long." When you've wasted your time with the first two "Malazan Book of the Fallen" novels because it pleases someone who has you under consideration, then I will hear your complaint about "long."

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RE: LOL anti ProDomme cmail of the day - 5/24/2012 3:35:48 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: kalikshama
quote:

My only issue with pro-dommes is that some make subs read a long profile before coming out with the fact they require financial recompense.

Here we go again with the unquantified complaint about "long." When you've wasted your time with the first two "Malazan Book of the Fallen" novels because it pleases someone who has you under consideration, then I will hear your complaint about "long."

I have no problem with pro-dommes (I stayed away from the critical pro-domme threads on here a while back), and I actually have no problem with "long" profiles either (detail is good), merely that reading lengthy passages that add "oh BTW I'm a pro" at the very end isn't fair, especially when it can happen quite a lot on CM so it can be wasteful of time.

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RE: LOL anti ProDomme cmail of the day - 5/24/2012 4:29:57 PM   
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Eh really pro dommes really do just exploit subs and looking for a handout. Especially since the economic times have gotten harder I can log in this site without seeing a new pro domme crop up demanding money and gifts, the rare occasion I look on craigslist I see the same thing of women wanting money.

Buying and selling submission/domination is just vacuous and a shallow gesture because a pro domme isnt a domme, she is just selling the idea of being a domme to whoever can afford it. Its the same as a prostitute, she doesnt have sex because she is interested in the person or likes them even in the tiniest bit, she just has sex because she is being paid to do it. Selling domination is the same thing because if you only are dominant when someone pays you then youre not really dominant, you just pretend to be for money and not because its what you are. Its two fakers faking being dominant and submissive together as a business transaction.

Then you have the aspect of a dominant person abusing their posistion as the dominant in order to make money. The word dominant being key here, the person who supposedly makes all the decisions, is the leader, the advisor and basically the boss is the one who is demanding money. Its easy to justify youre posistion when youre leading and easy to justify your means to yourself because humans have the built in desire to never consider themselves less than they imagine they are despite the reality of it. A pro domme will never consider herself a whore even if she plainly is because her mind will do all the mental gymnastics it requires in order to paint themselves in the light they wish.

Then you have the problem of the internet because all it takes is person a (women paticullarly can do this very easily) is to go on a forum, present themselves in the light they wish to be viewed in and paint themselves as the victim and others will rush to their side to blindly defend them like zealots. And when you get enough of them together they are impenetrable to any and all reason or doubt because they feed on eachother for strength. So that just solidifies the pro dommes perception that she isnt just a hooker selling sexual (and yes even if intercourse isnt there its still sexual in base) and psychological (again in a sexual realm way) release in a personal manner for money.

Im not saying you shouldnt be a pro domme, thats your choice but you have to except the fact that people who see you as what you are will let you know. While the others who romanticize it out of reality will support you, but to the people who see you as damaging to what bdsm really is they are going to speak their mind. If you cant deal with that then perhaps you should remove your profile and either be a real domme or find a new way to make money.

Pretending to be a domme for money is a prostitute because you will only do it for money. Whats worse is pro dommes wont even pay attention to someone without money, which somehow even more pretentious, smug and worse. Not to mention lying to people for money is one of the laziest ways you can make money, and yes you lie to men for money because you wont be dominant without money so that means youre not a dominant so they have to pay you to pretend you are which is lying to your customer.

But then again I dont expect much considering the baffling amount of "Hey look at me" threads I see even in the off topic section which is supposed to be off the topic of bdsm yet is full of bdsm posts all saying "Look at me, come on in and give me attention as Im an attention whore". There are a surprisingly few amount of actual conversations on these forums, its just people talking AT eachother instead of WITH eachother.



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ORIGINAL: MissKittyDeVine

´Good luck. You've narrowed yourself down to about 1/10th of 1/10th of 1/10th of the male population, who you would probably call disgusting dickheads anyway. Great. Just what us sub males need: another woman to exploit us for money. Gee, hard to find that, isn't it?´

1. I´m open about being a ProDomme
2. Can someone in their 50s not display more mature behaviour?
3. No, I don´t call subs disgusting dickheads - although I might make the odd exception




So you say they should be mature yet you have to publicly bolster your self esteem on a forum? Wouldnt a mature person just overlook it, go on and pay no mind to it?

Or is this a "rallying the troops" kind of post where in people will post something negative about themselves someone else points out but with a spin that makes them seem like they are the proverbial babe in the woods just to get others to join their cause and support them so they feel justified? Because I mean honestly, the point of posting this is severely lacking in purpose.

So again, a real mature person would have put the person on ignore and gone about their business. Which you did not do, so you wanting maturity out of them is hypocritical. So maybe next time instead of a "LOL anti prodomme email!" you could just delete it and ignore and be mature enough to walk away.


Knowing the immaturity though of this place dont bother posting back to me on here. I wont be back to read it.

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RE: LOL anti ProDomme cmail of the day - 5/24/2012 5:40:43 PM   
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Almost forgot.

Dont bother saying its about financial domination and you feel empowered taking and having someone give you money for your domination because thats all trussed up bullshit disguised as a cheap excuse. If it wasnt about the money then you would give it back when youre done, but you dont give it back do you? Nope pro dommes keep it.

And yes Im sure men do pay you, but its hardly a compliment. That just means you have overlooked all the real subs and only found the ones who can get someone to notice them by paying for it. Thats not a compliment to you at all, it just means these guys for whatever reason cant find a true domme to submit to so they have to pay you. Either they are just fakers and not real submissives and just want a occasional thing to get them off or they are so pitiful no real dommes want anything to do with you.

No Ill see you later.

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RE: LOL anti ProDomme cmail of the day - 5/24/2012 8:24:47 PM   
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First...um, wow, what an idiot above Me
Second...I get idiotic mail like that every once in a while, even though My profile CLEARLY states "pro" at the top.
Thirdly....Steven if we don't see pics of "no beard", then you still have the beard. Just saying..pics are proof.

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RE: LOL anti ProDomme cmail of the day - 5/24/2012 8:31:54 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: berasco

Eh really pro dommes really do just exploit subs and looking for a handout. Especially since the economic times have gotten harder I can log in this site without seeing a new pro domme crop up demanding money and gifts, the rare occasion I look on craigslist I see the same thing of women wanting money.

Buying and selling submission/domination is just vacuous and a shallow gesture because a pro domme isnt a domme, she is just selling the idea of being a domme to whoever can afford it. Its the same as a prostitute, she doesnt have sex because she is interested in the person or likes them even in the tiniest bit, she just has sex because she is being paid to do it. Selling domination is the same thing because if you only are dominant when someone pays you then youre not really dominant, you just pretend to be for money and not because its what you are. Its two fakers faking being dominant and submissive together as a business transaction.

Then you have the aspect of a dominant person abusing their posistion as the dominant in order to make money. The word dominant being key here, the person who supposedly makes all the decisions, is the leader, the advisor and basically the boss is the one who is demanding money. Its easy to justify youre posistion when youre leading and easy to justify your means to yourself because humans have the built in desire to never consider themselves less than they imagine they are despite the reality of it. A pro domme will never consider herself a whore even if she plainly is because her mind will do all the mental gymnastics it requires in order to paint themselves in the light they wish.

Then you have the problem of the internet because all it takes is person a (women paticullarly can do this very easily) is to go on a forum, present themselves in the light they wish to be viewed in and paint themselves as the victim and others will rush to their side to blindly defend them like zealots. And when you get enough of them together they are impenetrable to any and all reason or doubt because they feed on eachother for strength. So that just solidifies the pro dommes perception that she isnt just a hooker selling sexual (and yes even if intercourse isnt there its still sexual in base) and psychological (again in a sexual realm way) release in a personal manner for money.

Im not saying you shouldnt be a pro domme, thats your choice but you have to except the fact that people who see you as what you are will let you know. While the others who romanticize it out of reality will support you, but to the people who see you as damaging to what bdsm really is they are going to speak their mind. If you cant deal with that then perhaps you should remove your profile and either be a real domme or find a new way to make money.

Pretending to be a domme for money is a prostitute because you will only do it for money. Whats worse is pro dommes wont even pay attention to someone without money, which somehow even more pretentious, smug and worse. Not to mention lying to people for money is one of the laziest ways you can make money, and yes you lie to men for money because you wont be dominant without money so that means youre not a dominant so they have to pay you to pretend you are which is lying to your customer.

But then again I dont expect much considering the baffling amount of "Hey look at me" threads I see even in the off topic section which is supposed to be off the topic of bdsm yet is full of bdsm posts all saying "Look at me, come on in and give me attention as Im an attention whore". There are a surprisingly few amount of actual conversations on these forums, its just people talking AT eachother instead of WITH eachother.



quote:

ORIGINAL: MissKittyDeVine

´Good luck. You've narrowed yourself down to about 1/10th of 1/10th of 1/10th of the male population, who you would probably call disgusting dickheads anyway. Great. Just what us sub males need: another woman to exploit us for money. Gee, hard to find that, isn't it?´

1. I´m open about being a ProDomme
2. Can someone in their 50s not display more mature behaviour?
3. No, I don´t call subs disgusting dickheads - although I might make the odd exception




So you say they should be mature yet you have to publicly bolster your self esteem on a forum? Wouldnt a mature person just overlook it, go on and pay no mind to it?

Or is this a "rallying the troops" kind of post where in people will post something negative about themselves someone else points out but with a spin that makes them seem like they are the proverbial babe in the woods just to get others to join their cause and support them so they feel justified? Because I mean honestly, the point of posting this is severely lacking in purpose.

So again, a real mature person would have put the person on ignore and gone about their business. Which you did not do, so you wanting maturity out of them is hypocritical. So maybe next time instead of a "LOL anti prodomme email!" you could just delete it and ignore and be mature enough to walk away.


Knowing the immaturity though of this place dont bother posting back to me on here. I wont be back to read it.


So how do you feel about lawyers, doctors and anybody else who provides a service? They all exploit people?

I sure hope you don't work for money, because according to your logic it would make you a prostitute too.


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RE: LOL anti ProDomme cmail of the day - 5/25/2012 3:13:31 AM   
MissKittyDeVine


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Yeah, TN, I didn´t even bother reading that lengthy diatribe. Because I don´t worry about what other people think of me. Which brings me back to my point - wondering why others waste their time and energy sending pointless messages that are going to have absolutely NO effect on the recipient?

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