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RE: Stuff - 4/23/2012 1:15:44 PM   
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Are other people emotionally attached to their stuff, too?

My school stuff, though I never looked at it again. And my books, though my reading speed is so low that I hardly read anything anymore. And a couple of memento's.

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How do others approach this?

Not. Most of my small room is a mess. Clean - except for the dust - but a mess.

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RE: Stuff - 4/23/2012 1:20:42 PM   
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Thank You Kamastic, for the good wishes.
Funny thing, my darling built a shed on his property just for me, and it is jam packed full already. Part of it is being used for dog kennels for my three dogs, and part of it is going to be used for my 22 HP Kubota tractor. I will probably sell the tractor, after doing some necessary work around the property.   However, there are some obvious things we need to get rid of, like we don't need two lawn tractors, two pressure washers and two air compressors.
I also rented a storage space, something I swore I would never do, just because I think it too often is a way of not dealing with your possessions. I feel a little justified in this case, though. I have a lot of furniture that we don't have room for at present, but is too nice to jest get rid of. My personal vow is that it will only be for a year or two, though


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RE: Stuff - 4/23/2012 1:57:24 PM   
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Thank You Kamastic, for the good wishes.
Funny thing, my darling built a shed on his property just for me, and it is jam packed full already. Part of it is being used for dog kennels for my three dogs, and part of it is going to be used for my 22 HP Kubota tractor. I will probably sell the tractor, after doing some necessary work around the property.   However, there are some obvious things we need to get rid of, like we don't need two lawn tractors, two pressure washers and two air compressors.
I also rented a storage space, something I swore I would never do, just because I think it too often is a way of not dealing with your possessions. I feel a little justified in this case, though. I have a lot of furniture that we don't have room for at present, but is too nice to jest get rid of. My personal vow is that it will only be for a year or two, though


lo, yw, and I called it on both counts (shed and storage space). No, I'm not spying on you

There's always some valuable things that are big and are worth keeping, you never know when you will expand. Makes sense with cheap storage rate.

I'm impressed and envious that both of you had pressure washers and air compressors. Sounds like a match made in heaven. Hmm, I wonder what more unusual things I have that a woman having means we're a good match - never thought of it that way.

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RE: Stuff - 4/23/2012 2:48:35 PM   
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I used to be very attached to my stuff. And I hung onto it for years, most of it with great sentimental attachment (family heirlooms and such). When I separated from my now ex husband, I moved in a hurry to a small one bedroom apartment, with the intention of going through all of it with him should we not reconcile.

And than one day I arrived at the house to get some tax archives and Lo and Behold, the house was completely empty from top to bottom, all my things gone, never to be seen again. Serious and massive shock to the system, and it took me years to fully recover.

But I learned from that, that the sentiment remains in the heart and mind, whether or not I have a tangible reminder, and that I don't actually *need* those things. In fact, now as a result, I don't like having a lot of things anymore. I'd rather give it away to someone or some cause that will benefit from it, since I myself received so much help when I needed it.

The hardest for me was my music collection. I remember commenting here that my collection of over 800 CD's was gone and a couple people from CM shipped me dozens of compilation CD's that they made for me, to get me some music again. The coolest thing ever.

But I know now, my stuff could disappear now and I'd be just fine. I'm no longer tied to it. My ex did me a huge favor!

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RE: Stuff - 4/23/2012 2:49:33 PM   
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It IS a match made in heaven, Karmastic.  The pressure washers and the air compressors are just the tip of the iceberg!

In any case, someday the furniture he has now has to wear out, right?  And at that time, I have spares just waiting.  When we first talked about moving in together, we discussed the possibility of buying another house together in a year or two.  Now that i have moved in, I find that I really, really like his house, so perhaps a remodel will be what we choose instead.

He has also vowed to go through some of his stuff, which he desperately needs to do.  I swear, he is worse than I am!


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RE: Stuff - 4/23/2012 2:52:35 PM   
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That was a shitty thing for your ex to do.
My ex also left some of his possessions in my house for a few years, and I was pretty OK with it, since I had room.  I let him know I was moving, though, and was pretty clear that he had to come pick up what he wanted, or it was gone forever.  He picked up some things, and the rest of it got tossed.

I am just too sentimental about some things, though.  I ended up keeping some old birthday cards and things, that he wrote me back in the day.  Probably should have gotten rid of them, but I just couldn't.
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I used to be very attached to my stuff. And I hung onto it for years, most of it with great sentimental attachment (family heirlooms and such). When I separated from my now ex husband, I moved in a hurry to a small one bedroom apartment, with the intention of going through all of it with him should we not reconcile.

And than one day I arrived at the house to get some tax archives and Lo and Behold, the house was completely empty from top to bottom, all my things gone, never to be seen again. Serious and massive shock to the system, and it took me years to fully recover.

But I learned from that, that the sentiment remains in the heart and mind, whether or not I have a tangible reminder, and that I don't actually *need* those things. In fact, now as a result, I don't like having a lot of things anymore. I'd rather give it away to someone or some cause that will benefit from it, since I myself received so much help when I needed it.

The hardest for me was my music collection. I remember commenting here that my collection of over 800 CD's was gone and a couple people from CM shipped me dozens of compilation CD's that they made for me, to get me some music again. The coolest thing ever.

But I know now, my stuff could disappear now and I'd be just fine. I'm no longer tied to it. My ex did me a huge favor!


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RE: Stuff - 4/23/2012 3:00:40 PM   
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Yes it was shitty, and very painful, but that was his goal. But I ended up benefitting from it, which *wasn't* his goal lol.

If you love your stuff and its not causing you problems to keep it, then there's nothing wrong with keeping it. If you're out of room, I'd suggest the things without a lot of sentimental value, especially big things, lol, should go first.

And congratulations!!

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RE: Stuff - 4/23/2012 3:12:25 PM   
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maybe taking pics of meaningful things like was suggested previously and have a special bulletin board (or i've seen a border) made with those pics? specially if you have pics of the gift-givers IN their shirts before they were passed to you....



Oh wow, I never thought of that! The house ate my camera half a dozen years ago but my boy said he can borrow his sister's. Yay! The Disneyland and Sea World ones are over a dozen years old...I went to see mom in Texas and then we went to California. Within a month after getting home I was diagnosed with stage 2 NHL. It was a bright spot before a very harsh time.

The tee shirts...have those iron on decals that are faded and cracked. Not good for quilting material. It is a shame because I have been saving fabrics for years to someday start on a memories quilt. Lately I've been finding Disney fabric that reminds me of going to Disneyland in my early childhood, and of summertime as a kid...when us kids were dumped at the movie theater en masse, lol, and we got to watch Peter Pan, Dumbo, Aristocats...and the theater let us sit after the movie was over until it started up again. Yep, mom knew we would watch it twice and didn't come to get us until after the second showing. Lovely memories of summer days gone by. I also found fabric of my son's past crazes, where he was obsessed with Buzz Lightyear and dinosaurs and Hot Wheels, and we watched new Disney cartoon movies together. I squealed when I found the Little Mermaid fabric, lol. I do crazy quilting only, as I have no talent for geometric designs. Also, with quilting, I practice recycling. My own way, lol. See, I don't buy that fluffy filler stuff, but I get an old store bought quilt and sew on top of it by hand. Two of the quilts I have planned on starting sometime this year are in my cedar chest...they are two Sesame Street quilts with Big Bird at least a foot tall all over it. I will turn one of those into my memories quilt, the other one either into a cat quilt or else a Halloween/Autumn.

The table I had been using to sew on while watching tv with my son (wooden, almost tray table shape) broke, and I packed all this away for several years and took up knitting hats to donate to my oncologist's office. I skipped knitting last year as my sub is so...distracting. :) I cannot possibly knit hats without my Knifty Knitter, lol.

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Back to the subject of "stuff". As a kid I was moved from town to town, state to state, from Florida to Washington, Texas to Ohio, California to West Virginia and Wyoming and several others...often every year. Often we lost everything we had, or at least it seemed that way to me as a child. My stuff when we moved had to fit in one suitcase. Everything else had to go. It is such a relief to have made my last move as an adult and to just be able to...nest. Have everything I love around me. Friends and family have told me to get rid of my books and just go to the library...however, MY books are better than ones at the library. They are also always where I put them, never "checked out". I love the sound of turning pages and even the smell of the books, Kindle might be convenient but it sounds like putting all my eggs into one basket and I would have to give up a lot of things I love about my books. Same goes for DVDs. My collection is much better than the library's...theirs get ruined soon after they get them, cubing up. I don't have to drive to leave my home and wait in line to see if what I want has been checked out by someone else. (Plus, on some things, I simply have to admit to having a covetous nature...I love to own things I love, lol, so of course I would have to Own my boyfriend.)

I used to have a lovely collection of bells but I gave those away after a while and started a collection of bunnies. I gave those away but kept a few that were the most precious, reminding me of times spent with my son when he was very little. Now I seem to be collecting dragons, aargh.

I also have over 60 board games, half a dozen of those are chess sets. Dog and cat chess, Star Trek TNG, frosted, wooden, plastic, large, small, and magnetized...oh, and one that's an electronic game so I can play chess with myself, lol. Same goes for Monopoly...I have Pokemon Monopoly, Star Trek TNG, the normal game and probably one other with a theme. I also have lotsa puzzles. At least I have a long, floor to ceiling book case to hold it all instead of using three smaller ones.

Um, I have three remaining bread machines...cuz my favorite old recipes were for three loaves of bread. I mix the stuff up and divide into three and toss each lump into the machine for kneading. I used to do this by hand before my fingers got too sore and I thought of this as a good idea. Arthritis sucks.

I feel for everyone who has to get rid of most of their stuff due to a move. I had three forced moves due to repeated flooding and even after all these years, STILL have nightmares where I am trying my best to pack everything and am running out of time. I wake up wild eyed and covered in sweat, it's ridiculous I know, but there ya have it.

Oh, after dad died, my sister put his stuff in storage until after her divorce and consequent moves, first into an apartment and then several years later into her house. The stuff all rotted in storage. Literally. If you have to keep something in storage, check it's condition regularly. Get tubs with lids instead of boxes. Oil that furniture down and then put dust covers. To help against bugs, I'd put diatomaceous (sp?) earth around all over the floor, it's non-toxic but creates micro cuts in bugs so that they dry out and die.

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RE: Stuff - 4/23/2012 5:12:22 PM   
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I will easily sweep through my house with a gargabe bag (or five) and just get rid of stuff without looking back. I do have a few things that mean something to me, of course. I'm not completely dead inside. :)

Books, though....hmm....books I have an attachment to.

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RE: Stuff - 4/23/2012 5:47:55 PM   
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I got rid of a LOT of books.  I sold some of them, gave away the rest.  I only kept the ones that I use for reference or that have sentimental attractions (like my old high school yearbooks).
Since I rarely reread books, and since I love ebooks, this one was relatively easy.


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RE: Stuff - 4/23/2012 5:53:50 PM   
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I do crazy quilting only, as I have no talent for geometric designs. Also, with quilting, I practice recycling. My own way, lol. See, I don't buy that fluffy filler stuff, but I get an old store bought quilt and sew on top of it by hand.

heh, i do geometric because i'm not fond of crazy quilting. i also do applique - i'm working on a raw edge applique at the moment. i don't buy fluffy filler stuff period. it's either wool/poly mix or 100% cotton or bamboo (soooo soft). i did a burn test of fluffy, wool and cotton and the fluffy was scary! i only ever use natural fabrics and stuffings these days. when i'm poor (like i currently am), i go to 2nd hand shops for cotton clothing and old wool blankets. recycling at its friendliest!

my mom has three (used to have 4) storage sheds when she moved. she moved from 40+ yrs in one house. she had 8 of us kids. lots of stuff. then her mom died and her dad's house got sold, so she put all of his stuff in her house. so she had two households (and two basements and two overpacked garages) to move, and refused to throw anything away. i'm pretty sure she's got antiques and valuables in with the junk and it's all rotting, as she never goes to them. waste of money, waste of useable things.

when my dad died, i took all his wool shirts and hacked them up as wastefully as i could (as wasteful as a quilter can, anyways) to make a big quilt for her. it was the only way she was going to get rid of his stuff. she was still hanging on to my grandfather's threadbare shirts, pants and jackets 3 yrs after he died... she cherishes the quilt though

stuff is soooo hard to get rid of if you're sentimental

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RE: Stuff - 4/23/2012 7:56:00 PM   
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i'm a minimalist as well. i try to keep as little as possible.
if i haven't used something in a few months i like to give it away to someone who could use it or donate it to charity.

i don't want to be weighed down by material items.
other than my grandmother's rings, i could walk away from every belonging i have ever had and feel nothing.
i agree that the memories are far more important than the items attached to them.


I did exactly this when I moved here to Baltimore. I sold or gave away almost everything I ever had except for a small pickup truck worth of stuff. I just didn't need any of it and it just weighed me down. I don't regret it one bit. My daughter is nearby, I have Master and that's all I really need. Anything else is just not important to me.


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RE: Stuff - 4/23/2012 10:40:56 PM   
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Bummer about the stuff. Congrats about the relationship. Hooray about finally getting to sit for a minute.

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RE: Stuff - 4/24/2012 5:46:12 AM   
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Everything I own that's not books or tools, I could put in a big box and carry. That includes all the clothing I own.

There were just under 5000 books on the shelves last time I made a count, and I have machine tools that weigh more than a pickup truck.


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RE: Stuff - 4/24/2012 8:06:18 AM   
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Everything I own that's not books or tools, I could put in a big box and carry. That includes all the clothing I own.

There were just under 5000 books on the shelves last time I made a count, and I have machine tools that weigh more than a pickup truck.





My God! You can't have possibly read them all, have you? Are they for future reading? What kinds of books are they?

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RE: Stuff - 4/24/2012 8:24:14 AM   
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I had a perfectly good post that that lousy hospital network ate yesterday!

So... I did that "what if there was a fire?" test ages ago. Right off, the first thing I would go for is Jed, then my parents. Things that are not breathing = replaceable. Usually. When my grandmother passed (five years ago this July 31) my mom and I really came to an impasse about a lot of things. Let's just say that some objects that meant a lot to me were gone-away in my mom's effort to not be reminded of the past. I kept repeating to myself "what's more important, the thing, or the *memory* of the thing?" It worked sometimes. I have a lot of memories. I have this deeply hideous planter of a fawn, with alarming gold paint highlights... my mom, who *despises* the secondhand, actually went BACK to the charity place to retrieve it when I went to get it and couldnt find it. That's love, baby!

I have "issues" around my possessions due to my mom rehoming things without my permission when I was a child. My things are my attachment points to the world. Some of them are important because of who gave them to me, some just because they are beautiful things that just aren't made anymore. Nothing that has "financial" value, even the things that are or were expensive. I acquire. Where some people eat to adjust their mood, I... acquire. If I sit down and think, I can even tell you where every vintage ring, every brooch, every cocktail hat is.

The hardest thing to get rid of? BOOKS. The Great Debooking, where I did things like pass on my complete set of Travis McGee paperbacks (that McGinniss cover art omg!) was just nightmarish. But I survived, and I still have a lot of books, mainly art and art/knitting/beading reference. Movers charge by the pound, yanno. Now when fiction passes through the house it gets moved ON. Because there are LIBRARIES. There is the internet. There is more where that came from.



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RE: Stuff - 4/24/2012 8:44:31 AM   
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I have only one thing on my "What if there were a fire" list. A painting that I loved and bought at an antique store. I kept it in my car and hung it in my bedroom the day my ex-husband moved out.

It was just something special and pretty I did for myself as I faced a difficult time - living on my own for, oh, the first time ever. I love that painting to pieces.



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RE: Stuff - 4/24/2012 8:53:11 AM   
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The Great Debooking




other than books i use regularly such as cookbooks and gardening/botany books, i get rid of books as soon as i am finished with them.

textbooks that aren't worth reselling i give to the university library reserve desk so other students can use them, and all others i give to my neighborhood public library for their "Friends of the Library" book sale.

i just can't keep a book dusty on a shelf when it's possible someone else could gain some knowledge or entertainment from it. plus, the majority of books are not printed on acid free paper, so they aren't going to last forever. it's not cheap to maintain an antique book collection. i'll leave that to the library of congress.


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RE: Stuff - 4/24/2012 11:15:43 AM   
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I sort of feel the same way about books that I do about CDs.  I would rather they all be on one, small electronic device then have shelves and shelves and boxes and boxes of stuff

I few years ago, I decided to get rid of my CDs (I had about 1000) by digitalizing all my music.  I did that (it was a huge project).  Oddly, and for reasons I am not quite sure of, I still kept the CDs, so my plan was only partially successful.  I am getting rid of them now.

I greatly reduced the number of books I own, too, and I won't be buying anymore.  If I can't download it to my Ipad, I don't need it. 


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RE: Stuff - 4/24/2012 11:20:56 AM   
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The Great Debooking





textbooks that aren't worth reselling i give to the university library reserve desk so other students can use them, and all others i give to my neighborhood public library for their "Friends of the Library" book sale.




A few years after I finished grad school, I donated my technical collection (which had some out of print rarities) to the library at the miami marine lab (RSMAS).
3 months later, Hurricane Andrew hit and would have destroyed the entire collection.

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