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SadistDave -> RE: Republicans vote to allow employers access to peoples personal, private accounts. (3/28/2012 4:23:02 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail quote: ORIGINAL: SadistDave quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail Why Johnny cant read..... So, was there any detail on why the bill that would allow FCC to block employers from soliciting passwords was 1. an ineffective bill 2. would do more harm than good if employers were forbidden from soliciting passwords? 3. had some idea of what would be more effective? Or is that teabagger talk with no fact logic or reason behind it, what the clown said? Hi Johnny, Since you can't read, I'll try to clear it up for you. Perhaps that information is missing for the exact same reasons that the actual proposed legislation is missing. In fact, the story doesn't post any relevant information at all. There isn't even a reference to an actual rule that this legislation would effect. The Huffington posts reporting of this "news" item does not include any actual information from either side. Instead, it relies on quotes and offers nothing in the way of evidence for either side. It is essentially a blog post, not a news story. Apparently, most of the Huffinton Posts readers are too illiterate and/or ignorant to know the difference between news and propoganda. -SD- So, it never happened is that it? I would assume that this is an amendment to the republicans bill trying to destroy net neutrality rules already in force by the FCC. Oh, I have no doubt that it happened. However, there is no information on the legislation itself. It's an amendment to a rule that HuffPo doesn't even name. Beyond that, HuffPo doesn't even really provide any details about what this amendment supposedly does to accomplish it's stated objective, how it allegedly protects citizens, nor does it have the actual wording of the bill which would confirm or condemn either arguement. I think a pretty solid clue is the statement by Rep. Walden that in the opinion of Republicans it is written so poorly and is so ill-concieved that in the future it could ultimately be to blame for allowing employers access to the private information the amendment is intended to protect. The problem is that you "assume" things that are not even relevant to the story, and are blindly accepting a narrative thats being spoon fed to you without even bothering to ask basic questions about the lack of information you have so eagerly embraced. That is willful ignorance. -SD-

SadistDave -> RE: Republicans vote to allow employers access to peoples personal, private accounts. (3/28/2012 5:10:42 PM)
Double post [deleted] -SD-

mnottertail -> RE: Republicans vote to allow employers access to peoples personal, private accounts. (3/28/2012 5:30:02 PM)
You might want to watch CSpan for the 27th before you continue down the path, here. You are doing the assuming, completely and to tell the truth, very ineptly.

joshspet1980 -> RE: Republicans vote to allow employers access to peoples personal, private accounts. (3/28/2012 8:29:16 PM)
WHAT!!!!!!They have no business getting into our personal lives outside of the work place. Whatever happened to leave your work at work and your home at home? I can't believe they blocked that measure to let them keep employers from doing that!!!! I'm neither Republican nor Democrat. I have to go with the Democrats on this one. I mean come on?! Is nothing to be private anymore and how do we know someone won't abuse the power of having those password?

Lucylastic -> RE: Republicans vote to allow employers access to peoples personal, private accounts. (3/28/2012 9:39:25 PM)
Today, Rep. Perlmutter (D-CO) offered a Motion to Recommit on H.R. 3309 (Federal Communications Commission Process Reform Act of 2012) to protect online privacy, saying: People have an expectation of privacy when using social media like Facebook and Twitter. They have an expectation that their right to free speech and religion will be respected when they use social media outlets. No American should have to provide their confidential personal passwords as a condition of employment. Both users of social media and those who correspond share the expectation of privacy in their personal communications. Employers essentially can act as imposters and assume the identity of an employee and continually access, monitor and even manipulate an employee’s personal social activities and opinions. That’s simply a step too far. 183 House Democrats voted in favor of protecting privacy and confidential passwords–however, because only one House Republican joined House Dems in voting aye, the motion was defeated. http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2012/roll137.xml http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/26/technology/senators-want-employers-facebook-password-requests-reviewed.html?_r=2 http://www.house.gov/daily/hpg.htm Sadist Dave obviously doesnt look too closely to links to other sources

joshspet1980 -> RE: Republicans vote to allow employers access to peoples personal, private accounts. (3/29/2012 2:09:47 PM)
Right I was always taught in school that one of our basic rights is the right to privacy. I can't believe they are trying to do something like this.

manunkind -> RE: Republicans vote to allow employers access to peoples personal, private accounts. (3/29/2012 11:15:31 PM)
Nice to see a few responses. SadistDave: quote: Rep. Greg Walden (R-Ore.), the chairman of the Energy and Commerce Subcommittee on Communications and Technology, argued that the Democratic provision did not help. "You don't protect the consumer," Walden said. "And there are many of us who after this debate concludes and moves on, would be happy to work with you on legislation because I think this is a real issue that we all share, and that is protecting privacy. This doesn't do that." Walden also referred to the time-lapse between when the FCC writes a rule and when it is published. "In fact, you could open the door where they (the FCC) could allow employers and licensees to go after your stuff and you wouldn't know until they published the rule," he said. So we have some corporate lapdog say that this legislation doesn't protect privacy, and then throws the whole thing into the FCC IS GONNA RAPE YOUR PRIVACY. Uhm, yeah. You said... what? To be quite blunt, the first time a person asks for my personal private information (and I engage in alot of it on FB, business and family business that is no one's fucking business but my own (also in texts and phone calls))... Not happening. I've fought major corporations over USERRA violations, I've fought others over back pay, improper termination, not paying Workers Comp. You'll see some shit. Right to privacy. It's stare decisis.

itsSIRtou -> RE: Republicans vote to allow employers access to peoples personal, private accounts. (3/30/2012 6:09:39 AM)
u see,....this is what smaller government gets u,..... just enough government to set all workers against each other,... and get into ur personal life so that u can be controlled and monitored... so that anyone who might vote against the companys politics can get fired or laid off,... or not even hired in the 1st place. once again, the GOP says government doesnt work for people, and then makes darn sure it doesnt. MW

truckinslave -> RE: Republicans vote to allow employers access to peoples personal, private accounts. (3/30/2012 7:04:02 AM)
quote: I thought the Republicans were the folks that were against 'The Goverment Spying on us'? Apparently, thats just one more principle they have lied about. Apparently this thread has nothing to do with governmental spying.

truckinslave -> RE: Republicans vote to allow employers access to peoples personal, private accounts. (3/30/2012 7:09:43 AM)
Twenty years ago I applied for a job and was asked a series of questions, at the third interview, that I told the company I was not going to answer. That's how it works, imo, in a free country.... Come to think of it, in the late 70s I applied to a custom fabrication shop that insisted applicants take a MMPI. I thought it might be fun to see the results, so I took it.

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