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manunkind -> Republicans vote to allow employers access to peoples personal, private accounts. (3/27/2012 11:00:22 PM)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/27/facebook-password-protection-amendment-congress_n_1384045.html

WASHINGTON -- House Republicans blocked a measure Tuesday night that would have let the Federal Communications Commission prevent employers from forcing workers to reveal their Facebook passwords.

Democrats offered the legislation as part of bill to slap new restrictions on FCC rules after a string of reports about employers insisting on access to social media accounts -- a practice that some senators already want investigated by the Justice Department.




MrRodgers -> RE: Republicans vote to allow employers access to peoples personal, private accounts. (3/27/2012 11:06:45 PM)

We will begin to see more of this as the right now has taken the repubs into fascist capitalist territory.




joether -> RE: Republicans vote to allow employers access to peoples personal, private accounts. (3/27/2012 11:07:08 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: manunkind
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/27/facebook-password-protection-amendment-congress_n_1384045.html

WASHINGTON -- House Republicans blocked a measure Tuesday night that would have let the Federal Communications Commission prevent employers from forcing workers to reveal their Facebook passwords.

Democrats offered the legislation as part of bill to slap new restrictions on FCC rules after a string of reports about employers insisting on access to social media accounts -- a practice that some senators already want investigated by the Justice Department.


If such a think actually passed (and frankly I dont see that happening thanks to the defenders of America: The Democrats). Then what is the next logical excuse for employers wanting of power over their employees? I would guess it would be any and all financial records. Their bank accounts, financial investments and debts. And have access to all those systems to see just what employee #384 spends in a given month. Yeah, no 'invasion of privacy' here...

I thought the Republicans were the folks that were against 'The Goverment Spying on us'? Apparently, thats just one more principle they have lied about.




manunkind -> RE: Republicans vote to allow employers access to peoples personal, private accounts. (3/27/2012 11:16:37 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: joether

quote:

ORIGINAL: manunkind
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/27/facebook-password-protection-amendment-congress_n_1384045.html

WASHINGTON -- House Republicans blocked a measure Tuesday night that would have let the Federal Communications Commission prevent employers from forcing workers to reveal their Facebook passwords.

Democrats offered the legislation as part of bill to slap new restrictions on FCC rules after a string of reports about employers insisting on access to social media accounts -- a practice that some senators already want investigated by the Justice Department.


If such a think actually passed (and frankly I dont see that happening thanks to the defenders of America: The Democrats). Then what is the next logical excuse for employers wanting of power over their employees? I would guess it would be any and all financial records. Their bank accounts, financial investments and debts. And have access to all those systems to see just what employee #384 spends in a given month. Yeah, no 'invasion of privacy' here...

I thought the Republicans were the folks that were against 'The Goverment Spying on us'? Apparently, thats just one more principle they have lied about.


You do know that they look into your background whenever you get a job, right? That they judge you on how much debt you have. And if you have debt, and are unemployed, they think THIEF instead of some one who's like 'I want to pay my basic bills and not have my utilities cut off.'

PS: 'defenders of america'? No. Defenders of this broken ass status quo? Maybe.




GrandPoobah -> RE: Republicans vote to allow employers access to peoples personal, private accounts. (3/28/2012 12:49:52 AM)

The first time somebody "discovers" a posting under their name that they didn't post...but a prospective employer has their password (knowingly) all hell is going to break loose. Or...when somebody finds that a company has seen private information that they're not allowed to see (protected class stuff) or a case of identity theft that leads back to knowledge gained from FB, the whole world is going to come crashing down and some business is going directly into bankruptcy. If asked for that, I think I'd start be demanding to see the company policy regarding the protection of said information, how long they can/will retain it, and the like. I'll bet they'll come up empty. Personally, I would decline, and simply point out the dangers to the company...both under existing employment law, and under the general laws regarding privacy. Then, I'd simply and politely excuse myself from the interview, explaining that I would never be interested in working for a company that has so little respect for both the law and it's employees.




farglebargle -> RE: Republicans vote to allow employers access to peoples personal, private accounts. (3/28/2012 5:35:09 AM)

REMEMBER CAMPERS!

When someone asks you for a password. THE ONLY CORRECT RESPONSE IS:

"Sharing passwords is a violation of every corporate security policy in the book. Did I pass the test?"





kalikshama -> RE: Republicans vote to allow employers access to peoples personal, private accounts. (3/28/2012 5:39:29 AM)

See also the thread in Off Topic: http://www.collarchat.com/m_4067568/tm.htm




Fellow -> RE: Republicans vote to allow employers access to peoples personal, private accounts. (3/28/2012 9:50:05 AM)

Legislating this thing itself shows we live under idiocracy.




defiantbadgirl -> RE: Republicans vote to allow employers access to peoples personal, private accounts. (3/28/2012 10:08:40 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: manunkind

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/27/facebook-password-protection-amendment-congress_n_1384045.html

WASHINGTON -- House Republicans blocked a measure Tuesday night that would have let the Federal Communications Commission prevent employers from forcing workers to reveal their Facebook passwords.

Democrats offered the legislation as part of bill to slap new restrictions on FCC rules after a string of reports about employers insisting on access to social media accounts -- a practice that some senators already want investigated by the Justice Department.


Republicans want to go on about protecting freedom and then turn around and pull this shit? Hypocrites.




Moonhead -> RE: Republicans vote to allow employers access to peoples personal, private accounts. (3/28/2012 10:57:36 AM)

That's news?




Hillwilliam -> RE: Republicans vote to allow employers access to peoples personal, private accounts. (3/28/2012 11:13:49 AM)

Let's hear it for the party of smaller government and less intrusion.




LaTigresse -> RE: Republicans vote to allow employers access to peoples personal, private accounts. (3/28/2012 11:38:03 AM)

No shit.

More like party of mentally unstable freaks.




PeonForHer -> RE: Republicans vote to allow employers access to peoples personal, private accounts. (3/28/2012 12:20:04 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: defiantbadgirl
Republicans want to go on about protecting freedom and then turn around and pull this shit? Hypocrites.


The meaning of that word 'freedom' seems to get narrower and narrower as time goes by.




littlewonder -> RE: Republicans vote to allow employers access to peoples personal, private accounts. (3/28/2012 12:39:27 PM)

I'm betting there was a rider attached to this and that's they the republicans rejected it or there was a provision that we are not reading about on here that would have made the bill impossible to pass.




Moonhead -> RE: Republicans vote to allow employers access to peoples personal, private accounts. (3/28/2012 1:27:34 PM)

Of course. It can't possibly be the GOP blocking anything and everything the other party tries to do, they must have a good excuse.




SadistDave -> RE: Republicans vote to allow employers access to peoples personal, private accounts. (3/28/2012 3:00:36 PM)

According to the story thats linked abouve, the Republicans voted against the bill because it was poorly written and could possibly lead to making uit legal in the future.

quote:

Rep. Greg Walden (R-Ore.), the chairman of the Energy and Commerce Subcommittee on Communications and Technology, argued that the Democratic provision did not help.

"You don't protect the consumer," Walden said. "And there are many of us who after this debate concludes and moves on, would be happy to work with you on legislation because I think this is a real issue that we all share, and that is protecting privacy. This doesn't do that."

Walden also referred to the time-lapse between when the FCC writes a rule and when it is published. "In fact, you could open the door where they (the FCC) could allow employers and licensees to go after your stuff and you wouldn't know until they published the rule," he said.


Emphasis added.

Even that bastion of Liberal ignorance, Huffpo, acknowledges that the Republicans voted it down because 1. it's not an effective law, 2. that they feel will eventually do more harm than good and that 3. they are willing to cooperate in writing a more effective law on the issue.

-SD-




mnottertail -> RE: Republicans vote to allow employers access to peoples personal, private accounts. (3/28/2012 3:09:47 PM)

Why Johnny cant read.....

So, was there any detail on why the bill that would allow FCC to block employers from soliciting passwords was 1. an ineffective bill 2. would do more harm than good if employers were forbidden from soliciting passwords? 3. had some idea of what would be more effective?

Or is that teabagger talk with no fact logic or reason behind it, what the clown said? 




SadistDave -> RE: Republicans vote to allow employers access to peoples personal, private accounts. (3/28/2012 3:38:41 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Why Johnny cant read.....

So, was there any detail on why the bill that would allow FCC to block employers from soliciting passwords was 1. an ineffective bill 2. would do more harm than good if employers were forbidden from soliciting passwords? 3. had some idea of what would be more effective?

Or is that teabagger talk with no fact logic or reason behind it, what the clown said? 


Hi Johnny,

Since you can't read, I'll try to clear it up for you. Perhaps that information is missing for the exact same reasons that the actual proposed legislation is missing. In fact, the story doesn't post any relevant information at all. There isn't even a reference to an actual rule that this legislation would effect. The Huffington posts reporting of this "news" item does not include any actual information from either side. Instead, it relies on quotes and offers nothing in the way of evidence for either side.

It is essentially a blog post, not a news story. Apparently, most of the Huffinton Posts readers are too illiterate and/or ignorant to know the difference between news and propoganda.

-SD-




farglebargle -> RE: Republicans vote to allow employers access to peoples personal, private accounts. (3/28/2012 3:41:11 PM)

teabagger talk with no fact logic or reason behind it.




mnottertail -> RE: Republicans vote to allow employers access to peoples personal, private accounts. (3/28/2012 4:08:29 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: SadistDave

quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Why Johnny cant read.....

So, was there any detail on why the bill that would allow FCC to block employers from soliciting passwords was 1. an ineffective bill 2. would do more harm than good if employers were forbidden from soliciting passwords? 3. had some idea of what would be more effective?

Or is that teabagger talk with no fact logic or reason behind it, what the clown said? 


Hi Johnny,

Since you can't read, I'll try to clear it up for you. Perhaps that information is missing for the exact same reasons that the actual proposed legislation is missing. In fact, the story doesn't post any relevant information at all. There isn't even a reference to an actual rule that this legislation would effect. The Huffington posts reporting of this "news" item does not include any actual information from either side. Instead, it relies on quotes and offers nothing in the way of evidence for either side.

It is essentially a blog post, not a news story. Apparently, most of the Huffinton Posts readers are too illiterate and/or ignorant to know the difference between news and propoganda.

-SD-


So, it never happened is that it?  I would assume that this is an amendment to the republicans bill trying to destroy net neutrality rules already in force by the FCC.





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