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Hillwilliam -> RE: The Punks Of Talk Radio Now On A Shortened Rein Thanks To Rush (3/21/2012 1:42:40 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: subrob1967 quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam quote: ORIGINAL: subrob1967 The thing is, Rush relishes the attacks, the more the MSM attacks him, the more his Dittoheads rally around him, and spend their money on his products, enriching him even further. But who is Rush helping? My opinion is that he actually helps the Dems/liberals by giving them an enemy to rally against. One of the Republican's main problems is that they don't have a "Bad Guy" to rally against. Hussein and OBL are dead. Someone trots out Jeremiah Wright occasionally but gimme a break if that's the best you can do. Rush means well for his party but I really feel he is counterproductive. We don't need a bogie man, we have Obama's record to rally against, the guy's a train wreck. Unemployment down, Stock market up, Bin Ladn dead, Housing slowly recovering, Iraq and Afghanistan winding down. You're right, trainwreck.

subrob1967 -> RE: The Punks Of Talk Radio Now On A Shortened Rein Thanks To Rush (3/21/2012 1:47:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Moonhead quote: ORIGINAL: subrob1967 No, we didn't. Just because YOU say she wasn't a plant, or professional rabble rouser, doesn't make it so. Equally, just because YOU say she was a plant or a professional rabble rouser, doesn't make it so. If you're going to make claims like that, the onus of proof is on you. Either find some evidence or retract your claim. quote: Alma mater : Cornell University Georgetown University Occupation : Activist Law student Religion : Roman Catholic Sandra Fluke was born 1981 in United State, she is an American feminist activist and law student at Georgetown University Law Center, who testified before a panel of House Democratic Party members in favor of a government policy which required insurance policies to provide contraceptive coverage. She is a past president of the school’s Students for Reproductive Justice group. Before attending Georgetown, she graduated from Cornell University in 2003 and spent five years working for Sanctuary for Families, a New York-based nonprofit aiding victims of domestic violence. While working, she launched the agency’s pilot Program Evaluation Initiative. She also co-founded the New York Statewide Coalition for Fair Access to Family Court, which, after twenty years of advocacy, successfully advocated for legislation granting access to civil orders of protection for unmarried victims of domestic violence, including LGBTQ victims and teens. Fluke was also a member of the Manhattan Borough President’s Taskforce on Domestic Violence and numerous other New York City and New York State coalitions that successfully advocated for policy improvements impacting victims of domestic violence.While at Georgetown, she worked on issues that involved domestic violence and human trafficking. http://biography-channel.blogspot.com/2012/03/sandra-fluke-biography.html So your 23 year old "coed" turns out to be closer to 30, and has previously advocated health insurance companies pay for sex change operations for Transgendered folks is just an innocent young lady wanting to protect her fellow women from the dangers of contraception and hormonal imbalance. [8\|] Nah, you're right, she's just an innocent young woman, unjustly attacked by the vicious right wing [/sarcasm]

MasterRumpwrecke -> RE: The Punks Of Talk Radio Now On A Shortened Rein Thanks To Rush (3/21/2012 1:52:05 PM)
Unemployment is only down because they don't keep the numbers on the long term unemployed who have exhausted their benefits. The real numbers are much higher. Bin Laden is dead because the previous administrations policies were continued. Gas prices are considerably higher than when he took office. He froze drilling permits. He rejected the Keystone pipeline project that would have sparked thousands of jobs. He's spent more money in his first term than all of the previous presidents. Yep, trainwreck.

Moonhead -> RE: The Punks Of Talk Radio Now On A Shortened Rein Thanks To Rush (3/21/2012 2:34:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: subrob1967 Nah, you're right, she's just an innocent young woman, unjustly attacked by the vicious right wing [/sarcasm] I'm right that you can't cite whoever planted her, if that's the best you can do.

subrob1967 -> RE: The Punks Of Talk Radio Now On A Shortened Rein Thanks To Rush (3/21/2012 3:22:14 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Moonhead quote: ORIGINAL: subrob1967 Nah, you're right, she's just an innocent young woman, unjustly attacked by the vicious right wing [/sarcasm] I'm right that you can't cite whoever planted her, if that's the best you can do. Yeah Moon, I wasn't at that meeting, and I can't prove you don't feed your Mother catfood either[8\|]

thompsonx -> RE: The Punks Of Talk Radio Now On A Shortened Rein Thanks To Rush (3/21/2012 3:59:37 PM)
quote: she's made a career out of protesting, and advocating. What precisely do you find objectionable about one exercising their constitutional rights, which you as an alleged copper have sworn a sacred oath to protect?

thompsonx -> RE: The Punks Of Talk Radio Now On A Shortened Rein Thanks To Rush (3/21/2012 4:08:33 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MasterRumpwrecke Unemployment is only down because they don't keep the numbers on the long term unemployed who have exhausted their benefits. The real numbers are much higher. How long may someone recieve unemployment benifits? How long has this guy been in office? It is not calculus it is just arithmatic. Bin Laden is dead because the previous administrations policies were continued. The previous administration admited that it was no longer looking for ben laden? The current administration did not follow that policy. Gas prices are considerably higher than when he took office. If you compare the price of fuel in march of 2008 you will find you are mistaken. The price of fuel did not begin to fall until about two months before the election just as it will do this year. He froze drilling permits. Please check the oil production figgures for the past year and then you will know how mistaken you are. He rejected the Keystone pipeline project that would have sparked thousands of jobs. Please acquaint yourself with the parameters of the discussion before you post such foolish statements. He's spent more money in his first term than all of the previous presidents. What is your point? Yep, trainwreck.

JennyDevine -> RE: The Punks Of Talk Radio Now On A Shortened Rein Thanks To Rush (3/21/2012 4:16:13 PM)
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Moonhead -> RE: The Punks Of Talk Radio Now On A Shortened Rein Thanks To Rush (3/21/2012 4:17:43 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: subrob1967 quote: ORIGINAL: Moonhead quote: ORIGINAL: subrob1967 Nah, you're right, she's just an innocent young woman, unjustly attacked by the vicious right wing [/sarcasm] I'm right that you can't cite whoever planted her, if that's the best you can do. Yeah Moon, I wasn't at that meeting, and I can't prove you don't feed your Mother catfood either[8\|] So you've got nothing, then. Thought so.

Hillwilliam -> RE: The Punks Of Talk Radio Now On A Shortened Rein Thanks To Rush (3/21/2012 7:22:25 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MasterRumpwrecke . Bin Laden is dead because the previous administrations policies were continued. Bin Ladn is dead because the previous administration's policies were REVERSED. Dubya disbanded the CIA group that was searching for him in '06. Obama ordered the search restarted.

subrob1967 -> RE: The Punks Of Talk Radio Now On A Shortened Rein Thanks To Rush (3/22/2012 5:12:11 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Moonhead quote: ORIGINAL: subrob1967 quote: ORIGINAL: Moonhead quote: ORIGINAL: subrob1967 Nah, you're right, she's just an innocent young woman, unjustly attacked by the vicious right wing [/sarcasm] I'm right that you can't cite whoever planted her, if that's the best you can do. Yeah Moon, I wasn't at that meeting, and I can't prove you don't feed your Mother catfood either[8\|] So you've got nothing, then. Thought so. I got the blind refusing to see the obvious, but then most progressives are blind to the truth.

subrob1967 -> RE: The Punks Of Talk Radio Now On A Shortened Rein Thanks To Rush (3/22/2012 5:17:20 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx quote: she's made a career out of protesting, and advocating. What precisely do you find objectionable about one exercising their constitutional rights, which you as an alleged copper have sworn a sacred oath to protect? Let's call a spade, a spade, shall we? If she's a professional advocate, with years of experience, just say so. Instead we get the poor little twenty three year old coed denied basic medical prescriptions. Stop pretending she wasn't placed there by Mrs Pelosi, and Ms Fluke was a random student pulled from the ranks of Georgetown Uni. It's pretty black and white from this end, Mr bold type.

Moonhead -> RE: The Punks Of Talk Radio Now On A Shortened Rein Thanks To Rush (3/22/2012 5:21:09 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: subrob1967 quote: ORIGINAL: Moonhead quote: ORIGINAL: subrob1967 quote: ORIGINAL: Moonhead quote: ORIGINAL: subrob1967 Nah, you're right, she's just an innocent young woman, unjustly attacked by the vicious right wing [/sarcasm] I'm right that you can't cite whoever planted her, if that's the best you can do. Yeah Moon, I wasn't at that meeting, and I can't prove you don't feed your Mother catfood either[8\|] So you've got nothing, then. Thought so. I got the blind refusing to see the obvious, but then most progressives are blind to the truth. If she's a plant, who's running her?

dcnovice -> RE: The Punks Of Talk Radio Now On A Shortened Rein Thanks To Rush (3/22/2012 5:30:51 AM)
<fr> It might be helpful to the "plant" subplot to define what we mean by saying Fluke was a plant. Obviously, any witness testifying before Congress is gonna be carefully selected and probably primed a bit. Does that make him or her a "plant"? If Fluke was a plant, was Bishop Lori, who testified on the all-male Republican panel, one as well? It's not like the GOP just grabbed the first clergyman it could find. Perhaps the more important question is this: Does the careful selection of a witness mean that his or her testimony is without value?

Moonhead -> RE: The Punks Of Talk Radio Now On A Shortened Rein Thanks To Rush (3/22/2012 5:42:12 AM)
Looks like it does if you're subrob, yes. (Playing around with definitions, btw, does not strengthen that argument any. There's quite a big difference between selecting and vetting a witness, and planting a sleeper.)

thompsonx -> RE: The Punks Of Talk Radio Now On A Shortened Rein Thanks To Rush (3/22/2012 4:29:10 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: subrob1967 quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx quote: she's made a career out of protesting, and advocating. What precisely do you find objectionable about one exercising their constitutional rights, which you as an alleged copper have sworn a sacred oath to protect? Let's call a spade, a spade, shall we? If she's a professional advocate, with years of experience, just say so. Instead we get the poor little twenty three year old coed denied basic medical prescriptions. Stop pretending she wasn't placed there by Mrs Pelosi, and Ms Fluke was a random student pulled from the ranks of Georgetown Uni. It's pretty black and white from this end, Mr bold type. Would you please answer mr. bold type's question?

subrob1967 -> RE: The Punks Of Talk Radio Now On A Shortened Rein Thanks To Rush (3/22/2012 7:30:08 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx quote: ORIGINAL: subrob1967 quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx quote: she's made a career out of protesting, and advocating. What precisely do you find objectionable about one exercising their constitutional rights, which you as an alleged copper have sworn a sacred oath to protect? Let's call a spade, a spade, shall we? If she's a professional advocate, with years of experience, just say so. Instead we get the poor little twenty three year old coed denied basic medical prescriptions. Stop pretending she wasn't placed there by Mrs Pelosi, and Ms Fluke was a random student pulled from the ranks of Georgetown Uni. It's pretty black and white from this end, Mr bold type. Would you please answer mr. bold type's question? I'll spell it out so even a progressive can understand... Ms Fluke has a been portrayed as an innocent 23 year old poor coed unable to afford her birth control, when in fact she's a 30 year old, with a history of activism, and apparently a rich boyfriend who pays for her trips to Spain and Italy, if the pictures I've seen are to be believed. If you're going to portray yourself falsely, one can be expected to be called on it. quote: ORIGINAL: dcnovice Obviously, any witness testifying before Congress is gonna be carefully selected and probably primed a bit. Does that make him or her a "plant"? If Fluke was a plant, was Bishop Lori, who testified on the all-male Republican panel, one as well? It's not like the GOP just grabbed the first clergyman it could find. I didn't see the Republicans trying to pass Bishop Lori off as anything other than a Catholic Bishop. like a poor 23 year old law student... Did you?

dcnovice -> RE: The Punks Of Talk Radio Now On A Shortened Rein Thanks To Rush (3/22/2012 7:51:06 PM)
quote: ike a poor 23 year old law student... Who's claiming she's 23? She didn't give her age in her testimony.

Hillwilliam -> RE: The Punks Of Talk Radio Now On A Shortened Rein Thanks To Rush (3/22/2012 8:22:37 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: dcnovice quote: ike a poor 23 year old law student... Who's claiming she's 23? She didn't give her age in her testimony. One article said something about 23. The rest said 30 but all the conservatives have latched onto that ONE. A 23 year old 3rd year law student would be a rarity indeed.

kalikshama -> RE: The Punks Of Talk Radio Now On A Shortened Rein Thanks To Rush (3/23/2012 5:34:35 AM)
So one REPORTER got Sandra Fluke's age wrong? Pfft. If Nancy Pelosi had introduced her as being 23, that would be of interest.

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