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Ghastly Outdated Party - 2/26/2012 5:32:21 PM   
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By MAUREEN DOWD

IT’S finally sinking in.

Republicans are getting queasy at the gruesome sight of their party eating itself alive, savaging the brand in ways that will long resonate.

“Republicans being against sex is not good,” the G.O.P. strategist Alex Castellanos told me mournfully. “Sex is popular.”

He said his party is “coming to grips with a weaker field than we’d all want” and going through the five stages of grief. “We’re at No. 4,” he said. (Depression.) “We’ve still got one to go.” (Acceptance.)

The contenders in the Hester Prynne primaries are tripping over one another trying to be the most radical, unreasonable and insane candidate they can be. They pounce on any traces of sanity in the other candidates — be it humanity toward women, compassion toward immigrants or the willingness to make the rich pay a nickel more in taxes — and try to destroy them with it.

President Obama has deranged conservatives just as W. deranged liberals. The right’s image of Obama, though, is more a figment of its imagination than the left’s image of W. was.

Newt Gingrich, a war wimp in Vietnam who supported W.’s trumped-up invasion of Iraq, had the gall to tell a crowd at Oral Roberts University in Tulsa, Okla., that defeating Obama — “the most dangerous president in modern American history” — was “a duty of national security” because “he is incapable of defending the United States” and because he “wants to unilaterally weaken the United States.” Who killed Osama again?

How can the warm, nurturing Catholic Church of my youth now be represented in the public arena by uncharitable nasties like Gingrich and Rick Santorum?

“It makes the party look like it isn’t a modern party,” Rudy Giuliani told CNN’s Erin Burnett, fretting about the candidates’ Cotton Mather attitude about women and gays. “It doesn’t understand the modern world that we live in.”

After a speech in Dallas on Thursday, Jeb Bush also recoiled: “I used to be a conservative, and I watch these debates and I’m wondering, I don’t think I’ve changed, but it’s a little troubling sometimes when people are appealing to people’s fears and emotion rather than trying to get them to look over the horizon for a broader perspective.”

Alan Simpson, the former Republican senator from Wyoming, recently called Santorum “rigid and homophobic.” Arlen Specter, who quit the Republicans to become a Democrat three years ago before Pennsylvania voters sent him home from the Senate, told MSNBC: “Where you have Senator Santorum’s views, so far to the right, with his attitude on women in the workplace and gays and the bestiality comments and birth control, I do not think it is realistic for Rick Santorum to represent America.” That from the man who accused Anita Hill of perjury.

Republicans have a growing panic at the thought of going down the drain with a loser, missing their chance at capturing the Senate and giving back all those House seats won in 2010. More and more, they openly yearn for a fresh candidate, including Jeb Bush, who does, after all, have experience at shoplifting presidential victories at the last minute.

Their jitters increased exponentially as they watched Mitt belly-flop in his hometown on Friday, giving a dreadful rehash of his economic ideas in a virtually empty Ford Field in Detroit, babbling again about the “right height” of Michigan trees and blurting out that Ann “drives a couple of Cadillacs.”

Romney’s Richie Rich slips underscore what Ed Rollins, a Republican strategist, told the Ripon Forum: “If we are only the party of Wall Street and country clubbers, we will quickly become irrelevant.”

Santorum, whose name aptly comes from the same Latin root as sanctimonious, went on Glenn Beck’s Web-based show with his family and offered this lunacy: “I understand why Barack Obama wants to send every kid to college,” because colleges are “indoctrination mills” that “harm” the country. He evidently wants home university schooling, which will cut down on keggers.

His wife, Karen, suggested that her husband’s success is “God’s will” and that he wants “to make the culture a better culture, more pleasing to God.”

The barking-mad Republicans of Virginia are helping to make the party look foolish and creepy. A video went viral on Friday in which Delegate Dave Albo comically regaled his fellow lawmakers on the floor of the Statehouse with his own Old Dominion version of “Lysistrata”: he suggested that he was denied sex with his wife because of a Republican-sponsored bill that would have made ultrasounds, often with a vaginal probe, mandatory for women seeking abortions.

With music, red wine and a big-screen TV, he made a move on his wife, Rita, while she was watching a news report about the bill. “And she looks at me and goes, ‘I’ve got to go to bed,’ ” Albo said as his colleagues guffawed.

The Republicans, with their crazed Reagan fixation, are a last-gasp party, living posthumously, fighting battles on sex, race, immigration and public education long ago won by the other side.

They’re trying to roll back the clock, but time is passing them by.
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RE: Ghastly Outdated Party - 2/26/2012 9:03:42 PM   
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The approaching defeat of the looney Right in the 2012 is not just a matter of urgency for the USA and the survival of democracy there - it is important for the future of the whole world.

I doubt there's a country in the world (Saudi Arabia possibly excepted) where people like Frothy Mix would gain such prominence. Everyone I know regards it as a kind of aberrant moment, a temporary madness, in US politics as they shake their heads sadly and uncomprehendingly.

There is a certain schadenfreunde in watching the religious wrong self-destruct on a national scale. But it hasn't quite happened yet. So please don't relax guys, until the election is over and the relgious wrong and looney right is consigned to history's trash can.

You owe it to yourselves - and the entire world.

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RE: Ghastly Outdated Party - 2/27/2012 8:09:09 AM   
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RE: Ghastly Outdated Party - 2/27/2012 8:37:19 AM   
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OMFG ROFLMAO!!!!!
Awesome pic Kalik!!!
Love it!

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RE: Ghastly Outdated Party - 2/27/2012 10:51:26 PM   
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quote:

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“Republicans being against sex is not good,” the G.O.P. strategist Alex Castellanos told me mournfully. “Sex is popular.”




We so need a third party.

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RE: Ghastly Outdated Party - 2/28/2012 6:15:12 AM   
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We so need a third party.


There are Libertarians, Green Party and some more choices. If I am correct, in some places one can write in a candidate or simply leave the place empty. I see no reason why people who do not support  major party candidates should give their vote for one.  Such act would be immoral.

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RE: Ghastly Outdated Party - 2/28/2012 6:23:16 AM   
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The conservatives have won at least three elections over here because self righteous idiots think that tactical voting is immoral, it might be worth remembering.

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RE: Ghastly Outdated Party - 2/28/2012 6:32:38 AM   
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I will NEVER sit on my ass and not vote. I will ALWAYS vote against the Republicans.

Fuck the Right.

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RE: Ghastly Outdated Party - 2/28/2012 6:38:47 AM   
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There you go. That's how to get the arses out of office.

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RE: Ghastly Outdated Party - 2/28/2012 6:42:43 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Fellow

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We so need a third party.


There are Libertarians, Green Party and some more choices. If I am correct, in some places one can write in a candidate or simply leave the place empty. I see no reason why people who do not support  major party candidates should give their vote for one.  Such act would be immoral.


But what we need is a true center right party so the Democrats can move back to the center left.

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RE: Ghastly Outdated Party - 2/28/2012 7:38:29 AM   
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Both parties are at their extremes because of gerrymandered congressional districts.... the only competition for office in the majority of districts is the primary, that will over time drive the candidates further to the edges and away from the middle.

However another issue is the declining prospects for the Republican party due to demographics. Somehow the coalition of religious far right, fiscal conservative and tea party followers has lead to the Republican party being the party of white America and that's a declining population in the coming decades. By alienating minorities, gays and free thinking women Republican strategists are fast becoming the party of the south and nowhere else. The anti-black vote couldn't even defeat a black Presidential candidate in a national election. I think we're watching the death throes of the party of Lincoln and I wonder who or what will replace them, the US system as it's evolved requires two parties.

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RE: Ghastly Outdated Party - 2/28/2012 7:47:45 AM   
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RE: Ghastly Outdated Party - 2/28/2012 8:34:14 AM   
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On one of the side roads in West Springfield or perhaps Agawam, there's a sign almost like that that said "Say Amen Loudly, if you want politicians to stop using your devotion as a perverse tool"

Next time I take the kids to the cousins ... I'll see if I can get a picture of it.


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RE: Ghastly Outdated Party - 2/28/2012 8:56:25 AM   
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AMEN!

Wait, I am devoted to M's perverse tool...

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RE: Ghastly Outdated Party - 2/28/2012 10:29:27 AM   
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But what we need is a true center right party so the Democrats can move back to the center left.

This idea sounds a bit strange. Who are the Democrats; people with ideas and political views or Washington bureaucrats? How are the ideas or behavior forced from outside? I think, the problem could be a conflict inside the Democrat party as well. Power elite is obviously manipulating the politics. Some claim (Chris Hedges for example) the Democrat party has been destroyed from inside.

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RE: Ghastly Outdated Party - 2/28/2012 11:21:08 AM   
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AMEN!

Wait, I am devoted to M's perverse tool...


That's a DIFFERENT Perverse Tool... Check with you M, but I am sure you have a green light on being devoted to THAT one.


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RE: Ghastly Outdated Party - 2/28/2012 11:25:37 AM   
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Some claim (Chris Hedges for example) the Democrat party has been destroyed from inside.



Chris Hedges says a lot of things about a lot of topics. From my experiences with Chris concerning the Occupy Movement, I suspect he plays a game of conservative pleading.
In a decade when they are counting things up, he'll of course get credit for things he's right about ... but the PLETHORA of things he as completely mistaken about will be forgotten.


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RE: Ghastly Outdated Party - 2/28/2012 1:28:05 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Fellow

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But what we need is a true center right party so the Democrats can move back to the center left.

This idea sounds a bit strange. Who are the Democrats; people with ideas and political views or Washington bureaucrats? How are the ideas or behavior forced from outside? I think, the problem could be a conflict inside the Democrat party as well. Power elite is obviously manipulating the politics. Some claim (Chris Hedges for example) the Democrat party has been destroyed from inside.


The Democratic politician are certainly to blame somewhat. They have let the extreme right wing play their Overton window games with little if any pushback and have ignored all sorts of polling showing the left position on a host of things is the overwhelmingly popular position, single payer health care for instance.

However if there was an overtly center right poitical party the Democrats would have to move to the left to be distinguishabe from it. With only the center right and extreme right being represented much of America has no palatable options in the voting booth except voting against the extremists.

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RE: Ghastly Outdated Party - 2/28/2012 1:33:04 PM   
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The result being that neither party is fully trusted by actual moderates and independents types(why should they ?)so the thinking evolves that split governement is the safer course.
We wind up with paralysis as a result of partisan intransigence .
And the American electorate winds up with ineffective representation

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RE: Ghastly Outdated Party - 2/28/2012 3:06:33 PM   
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The result being that neither party is fully trusted by actual moderates and independents types(why should they ?)so the thinking evolves that split governement is the safer course.
We wind up with paralysis as a result of partisan intransigence .
And the American electorate winds up with ineffective representation


And a paralyzed government and ineffective representation is a goal of large portions of the Republican party. Who was it who said they wanted the government small enough to drown in a bathtub again???

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