LaTigresse
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"Being forced to do something they dont want to do is the very reason a LOT of the ladies are here in the first place."
Actually, it's the reason many submissives become so traumatized they remain paranoid for the rest of their lives!
But hey...carry on! Dominants should have no responsibility toward the psychological well-being of their submissives whatsoever!
Yep, just keep telling yourself that...
So I read this just moments ago. Same topic, two different opinions. One looking at it as abuse and the other from the fingers, mouths, of many s-types.
I know for a fact that there are many s-types, bottoms, etc.......that do want to be forced to do things they don't want to do. Oxymoronish certainly but for some, it is a huge turn on. Been there, done that, have the delightful smiles of the memories.
Then, there is the FORCE.....that is, to ME, and I believe the person that initiated the topic, shared opinion, would be abuse.
I know for a fact we've discussed it in various forms. But I think it would be interesting to revisit.
My own opinion is that 'forcing' edge play, whatever you want to call it........tends to be something that quite often happens in relationships where trust has already been pretty solidly established. Where the D/M/T already knows the s/b pretty fucking well and visa versa. So well, that even if things accidentally go a bit wonky, there is that established foundation to fall back on and recover.
FORCE....well that to me, is more a situation where there is less trust, or maybe even any sort of 'give a damn' about trust. It doesn't end with any sort of warm fuzzies and ultimately erodes not just the relationship but also, very likely, the s or b, as a human being. And that is what I think the second party of that discussion was seeing.
I know that there are certainly D/s, M/s, and perhaps even T/b relationships that never want to push those envelopes and prefer to stay more on the warm fuzzy side of the spectrum.Which is totally cool, even if the more hardcore players do, wrongly, often point fingers and laugh with snide comments about 'real and true' etc etc etc. Hey, I figure it's all about whatever blows the wind up our own prospective skirts/jockeys/whatever and less about what anyone else is doing or not. But there are those that do like to live on pedestals and yay for them.
But I would (kinda cuz I am nearing a state I hate) love to have a reasonably sane conversation from both sides of the equation. Those that enjoy pushing the envelope, those that don't. Those that see it as 'forcing' regardless of personal enjoyment and those that see it as 'FORCING' regardless of personal enjoyment.
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My twisted, self deprecating, sense of humour, finds alot to laugh about, in your lack of one!
Just because you are well educated, articulate, and can use big, fancy words, properly........does not mean you are right!
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The fine line between 'forced' and 'FORCED' - 
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). He, however, will NEVER force me to be with either another man or a woman. To do otherwise would compromise my values and hurt my integrity (and his). It may not harm me physically, but it would harm me emotionally and it would actually damage our relationship. To force THAT would be abusive for us.
, it helps a lot IMHO. i dont know if people feel it spoils their dynamic.... but for me it works and the trust allows me to be and do more than i could otherwise:~ see this is why i dont post......... i go on a bit.
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