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dishwasher installation - 12/27/2011 10:38:52 AM   
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Status: offline 		In our household of 3, dishes pile up fast. Because of college, work, and me being a lazy subbie, we have decided to buy a dishwasher. We could get one of those freestanding dishwashers, but that sounds like a hassle and I wonder if there's a chance the connector won't fit the faucet. Since we live in an older house, installation would involve carpentry, plumbing, and wiring. Any ideas how much it costs to install a dishwasher or does installation come free with purchase, even if it's from scratch?


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RE: dishwasher installation - 12/27/2011 10:43:26 AM   
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Status: offline 		Honestly with modern pressure couplings it's real easy to connect one from scratch, you don't need a blowtorch & lots of tools any more.

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RE: dishwasher installation - 12/27/2011 10:49:06 AM   
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Status: offline 		Installation is not free. When I looked into it a few years back in ran about $150. from Best Buy. (with purchase) It beats the hell out of trying to help someone install one though. (trust me on this)

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RE: dishwasher installation - 12/27/2011 10:54:16 AM   
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Status: offline 		They only charge $150 to cut out the cabinet, and install new wiring and plumbing? Wow that's cheap.

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RE: dishwasher installation - 12/27/2011 10:56:52 AM   
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Status: offline 		I think that's if it's just a "regular" installation. I'm not sure how much it costs if there are other things they have to do. I honestly don't know that much about it. : (

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RE: dishwasher installation - 12/27/2011 11:00:01 AM   
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Status: offline 		You don't want a free-standing one. They are awful. We tried that in an old house we owned a while back, because there was no room to install one. We only used it a half-dozen times, it just wasn't worth hooking up. Never got anything clean.

The plumbing isn't that hard anymore, but if you have to redesign the cabinets around the new washer, it's probably not something you want to try yourselves, unless one of you is a skilled carpenter

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RE: dishwasher installation - 12/27/2011 11:25:48 AM   
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Status: offline 		How much depends on how much work needs to be done. Call your local appliance store and ask them for a quote. They either will do this themselves or will refer you to people who can do it.

As Niner said, the plumbing shouldn't be too bad depending on the condition of your existing plumbing, but if a cabinet needs to be built, that could be pricey. And if your existing plumbing is nonstandard, you may require a plumber to repair it. The Man does this kind of thing a lot, but each house is different and if the plumbing is truly awful then he won't touch it, he'll give the client the names of a couple of plumbers he works with.


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RE: dishwasher installation - 12/27/2011 11:36:33 AM   
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Status: offline 		I guess installation all depends, is this gonna be a kinky dishwasher?


But you have to drill a couple holes, tap a couple pipes, cut a drain into your p-trap for the wastewater, and have to have electricity to plug it in.  

Couple hours for a guy that doesnt know a whole lot but enough.  Worth a couple blowjobs maybe if you go that route.

If you are not mechanically facile, it isnt going to be something someone could talk you thru unless you go get a book at the library on how to do it....that might make it alot easier if you follow directions well.   

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RE: dishwasher installation - 12/27/2011 11:36:50 AM   
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Status: offline 		Normally dishwashers slide in under the counter next to the sink base. Discharge is usually through the garbage disposal. Most connectors are standard, and have been for years and years. 1/2 inch is the most common, IIRC. Find a dishwasher on Craigslist or a scratch n dent place. Ehow has articles on how to install. Most important thing is a proper ground (earth in the UK).

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RE: dishwasher installation - 12/27/2011 11:41:57 AM   
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Status: offline 		And that the drain will accommodate it. Old houses frequently have smaller pipes then they should, especially if it was built by a homeowner doing it on the cheap.

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RE: dishwasher installation - 12/27/2011 11:42:56 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Just0Plain0Mike

You don't want a free-standing one. They are awful. We tried that in an old house we owned a while back, because there was no room to install one. We only used it a half-dozen times, it just wasn't worth hooking up. Never got anything clean.



We actually had a freestanding dishwasher for 5 years. (1920s bungalow with no cabinet space for an installed DW)

Our dishwasher worked great and got everything clean. The only drawback was that it's taking up space in the middle of your kitchen when it's in use, so we always ended up running it when we went to bed.

As for the rest:

A good freestanding dishwasher will cost more than a built in, so think of that as ending up about even when you install. Last time I looked Lowe's did installations for about $150.00.

A built in dishwasher will most likely be connected to your garbage disposal. A freestanding dishwasher needs to have the trap cleaned otherwise it just sprays food crumbs back onto your dishes (which is what I suspect happened in the case of "never got anything clean")

And honestly, if you own the home, you'll get every penny back. I wouldn't even look at a house without one.


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RE: dishwasher installation - 12/27/2011 11:43:39 AM   
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Status: offline 		Before I sold my home a few months ago I had a dishwasher installed. It was a completely new installation. Cabinets had to be removed, rewiring needed to be done, new fittings and plumbing put in place.

It cost me $500.



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RE: dishwasher installation - 12/27/2011 11:43:49 AM   
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Status: offline 		About 13 years ago, my non-chain appliance store charged $50 to deliver and install a dishwasher. Although my now ex husband was mechanically inclined, it was so worth having them do it.

I'm trying to remember if we were replacing a dishwasher or installing from scratch and think from scratch because if it was just a matter of unconnecting and reconnecting he definitely would have done it.

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RE: dishwasher installation - 12/27/2011 11:47:37 AM   
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Status: offline 		Since you're talking about not having a pre-existing installation port for the DW, you will most likely be looking at anything from $500-$1000 (conservative numbers) not including the cost of the DW itself. You will also need building permits to include the plumbing and electrical work both of which need to be done by licensed contractors and inspected by local officials.

A lot of this also hinges on your existing cabinetry, height of counter top, type of existing construction, and a few miscellaneous factors. You might reconsider the freestanding unit again. There are all kinds of adapters available to hook up to your faucet.

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RE: dishwasher installation - 12/27/2011 11:53:02 AM   
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Status: offline 		You are serious? In the land of the free you need a permit to do some sparky work?

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RE: dishwasher installation - 12/27/2011 11:53:39 AM   
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RE: dishwasher installation - 12/27/2011 11:56:09 AM   
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Status: offline 		OP, don't you rent? If so, you need to talk to your landlord. You should also know that anything that you "install" automatically goes with the property. That means it does not go with you when you leave.

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RE: dishwasher installation - 12/27/2011 2:49:40 PM   
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RE: dishwasher installation - 12/27/2011 2:51:02 PM   
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You are serious? In the land of the free you need a permit to do some sparky work?


It depends on the municipality and if your neighbors are rats - generally applicable to outdoor work that rubs them the wrong way.

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RE: dishwasher installation - 12/27/2011 4:12:57 PM   
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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl


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ORIGINAL: Just0Plain0Mike

You don't want a free-standing one. They are awful. We tried that in an old house we owned a while back, because there was no room to install one. We only used it a half-dozen times, it just wasn't worth hooking up. Never got anything clean.



We actually had a freestanding dishwasher for 5 years. (1920s bungalow with no cabinet space for an installed DW)

Our dishwasher worked great and got everything clean. The only drawback was that it's taking up space in the middle of your kitchen when it's in use, so we always ended up running it when we went to bed.

As for the rest:

A good freestanding dishwasher will cost more than a built in, so think of that as ending up about even when you install. Last time I looked Lowe's did installations for about $150.00.

A built in dishwasher will most likely be connected to your garbage disposal. A freestanding dishwasher needs to have the trap cleaned otherwise it just sprays food crumbs back onto your dishes (which is what I suspect happened in the case of "never got anything clean")

And honestly, if you own the home, you'll get every penny back. I wouldn't even look at a house without one.



We own the house along with the bank. I called a local handyman and he came over and looked. His labor estimate is $400. Is having a dishwasher without a garbage disposal a bad idea?


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