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farglebargle -> John Boehner/Republicans are raising your taxes... (12/20/2011 2:24:35 PM)

Less money in your paycheck, thanks to the Republicans in Congress, and their pandering to Corporate Interests over regular working Americans like you.

Be sure to remember this in November, when you have a chance to send these "Tax and Borrow Conservatives" home...




willbeurdaddy -> RE: John Boehner/Republicans are raising your taxes... (12/20/2011 2:40:45 PM)

Too bad its the Democratically controlled Senate that is holding things up. Nice try tho. (The Senate proposed 2 month extension is impossible to implement in time and was never intended to pass).




mnottertail -> RE: John Boehner/Republicans are raising your taxes... (12/20/2011 2:43:33 PM)

You mean with the they wont tack on the fuck habeas corpus bill on a fucking spending bill like your lawless ratpoison nazi teabaggers?

Or holding it up some other way...and don't froth the asswipe about kicking the can down the road....the other budget bills by the baggers got that one suitcased.




tazzygirl -> RE: John Boehner/Republicans are raising your taxes... (12/20/2011 2:47:04 PM)

Its the Senate fucking this one up, fargle.

A different perspective...

The government does not have the money to continue the payroll tax cut. It's literally handing everyone in the U.S. an extra $1,000 if they make $50,000 a year, as reported by ABC News. That amounts to an extra $19.23 a week. That's nothing.

An extra $100 a week would be something, but an extra $19 a week doesn't mean anything in this economy. Not to mention, the only people getting the full $19 are people making a minimum of $50,000 a year. The lowest wage workers earn $15,080, or 30 percent of what's needed to get the full $19. That means the poorest people are only seeing a weekly pay increase of $5.70. That's the equivalent of 14 cents an hour.

The national debt is now sitting at just over $15 trillion with a national population sitting just under 313 million, according to the U.S. Debt Clock. That means if we were to place the national debt directly on the backs of every individual currently in the U.S., each person would owe $48,386. If we were to simply include every taxpayer, they would owe an extra $134,299.

Those are bad numbers, and it needs to stop. Thankfully, Congress seems to be getting that message. The payroll tax bill would cost taxpayers an extra $180 billion, as reported by the Associated Press. That's an extra $575 per person. Since we have no way to pay for that increase, Congress is stalling the bill. As hard as it is to say, it's the right thing to do, but maybe Congress should just let the tax cut expire.


http://news.yahoo.com/payroll-tax-cut-bill-waste-time-effort-money-222700898.html

19 dollars a week wont make a dent in anyone's pockets. It will make a massive dent in the national debt. Even Obama is ready to veto the Senate version.




farglebargle -> RE: John Boehner/Republicans are raising your taxes... (12/20/2011 3:30:46 PM)

Maybe you should be asking Boehner why he was scared of letting the Senate bill come to an up/down vote. Boehner did his usual insider-washington maneuvering, cancelled the up/down vote and substituted two options. (1) reject the bill and (2) reject the bill and call for a committee. So, instead of everyone just voting for the extension of the tax rates, so that they could work out a longer deal after the holidays, once again we're left with Boehner and the Republicans playing political games with your money.

And Obama's going to veto the Senate version he's already said he'd sign? Not likely. Of course, Boehner is terrified of this bipartisan legislation. I mean, it passed the senate by a 9:1 margin....


http://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/2011/12/20/obama-senate-payroll-bill-only-viable-way-to-prevent-tax-hike/




tazzygirl -> RE: John Boehner/Republicans are raising your taxes... (12/20/2011 3:41:39 PM)

COMMENTARY | The payroll tax cut bill passed the Senate on Saturday, but as of today, the House is expected to refuse the new bill, and the president will veto it if it passes, as reported by ABC News.

From the yahoo link.




farglebargle -> RE: John Boehner/Republicans are raising your taxes... (12/20/2011 3:51:47 PM)

ABC? Bunch of Mickey Mouse journalists....




tazzygirl -> RE: John Boehner/Republicans are raising your taxes... (12/20/2011 4:19:29 PM)

Doesnt matter. I think it should expire.




Aylee -> RE: John Boehner/Republicans are raising your taxes... (12/20/2011 4:31:43 PM)

967 days since the Senate passed a budget. Is the OP going to blame the republicans for that as well?




tazzygirl -> RE: John Boehner/Republicans are raising your taxes... (12/20/2011 4:35:56 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Aylee

967 days since the Senate passed a budget. Is the OP going to blame the republicans for that as well?


I blame them all.




erieangel -> RE: John Boehner/Republicans are raising your taxes... (12/20/2011 6:48:46 PM)

There is no need "implement" anything on an extension.  Reed and McConnell came up with the 2 month extension as a compromise to give them time to figure out how to pay for the full-year of extension.  Boehner and his crew don't want that--they don't want the extension at all.  The tax cut paid for my new roof--I am now saving for electrical work, if I lose the tax cut I can't bring my house up to city code in time.




erieangel -> RE: John Boehner/Republicans are raising your taxes... (12/20/2011 6:52:03 PM)

They don't want to give me an extra $10-$11 a week (which I saved to pay for a new roof) but they will continue the tax breaks for the wealthiest.  Which are we lease able to afford?




tazzygirl -> RE: John Boehner/Republicans are raising your taxes... (12/20/2011 6:53:32 PM)

erie, I so get the hypocrisy of this issue.

Maybe when the hypocrisy gets so bad that its blatantly obvious to everyone, including the rich, they will get voted out.




Theon38 -> RE: John Boehner/Republicans are raising your taxes... (12/20/2011 6:53:43 PM)

When I hear that politicians pull tricks like this in order to pull the wool over the eyes of the sheeple, I always think, "That will never work!"

Then I come to websites like this and read what someone like what Fargle writes and I think, "Oh dear, not again."




Theon38 -> RE: John Boehner/Republicans are raising your taxes... (12/20/2011 6:55:05 PM)

Well, the "wealthiest" are already paying the most progressive tax of any of us.

How many more times can you demonize the "wealthiest" before they run out of money?




tazzygirl -> RE: John Boehner/Republicans are raising your taxes... (12/20/2011 7:24:46 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Theon38

Well, the "wealthiest" are already paying the most progressive tax of any of us.

How many more times can you demonize the "wealthiest" before they run out of money?



Cry me a river

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willbeurdaddy -> RE: John Boehner/Republicans are raising your taxes... (12/20/2011 8:11:04 PM)


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ORIGINAL: erieangel

There is no need "implement" anything on an extension.  Reed and McConnell came up with the 2 month extension as a compromise to give them time to figure out how to pay for the full-year of extension.  Boehner and his crew don't want that--they don't want the extension at all.  The tax cut paid for my new roof--I am now saving for electrical work, if I lose the tax cut I can't bring my house up to city code in time.


You might actually want to read the bill before you make statements like that. You are 100% wrong. The bill changes the basis of taxation in order to ensure "fairness" between high and low income if there is no extension beyond 2 months. Instead of taxing all income until you reach the cap it prorates the cap to a monthly amount. Essentially 12 caps a year. It requires reprogramming every single payroll system in the country, a 3 to 6 month process.




willbeurdaddy -> RE: John Boehner/Republicans are raising your taxes... (12/20/2011 8:12:18 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Theon38

Well, the "wealthiest" are already paying the most progressive tax of any of us.

How many more times can you demonize the "wealthiest" before they run out of money?


Till everybody is poor except those who run the government, of course.




MrRodgers -> RE: John Boehner/Republicans are raising your taxes... (12/20/2011 9:16:05 PM)


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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

Too bad its the Democratically controlled Senate that is holding things up. Nice try tho. (The Senate proposed 2 month extension is impossible to implement in time and was never intended to pass).

You don't really think you're kidding anybody do you ? Either you are just too partisan to see it or purposefully obfuscate ? It is the unconstitutional 60 votes to get past 'cloture' [sic] whatever that is, otherwise known as a filibuster (from the golf course no less) to get any bill to the floor, that is holding up progress.

That's so the capitalist and the corporatist need only buy that many...40. Nowhere in the constitution is there such a super majority except as specified.

This allows 40 (or more) senators to openly state that their no. 1 priority is to get Obama out, block every initiative and demagogue (lie through their teeth) about everything that the capitalist and corporatist/banker doesn't want. Now they threatened a shut down govt. for tax cuts for the wealthy and now threaten the same for tax increases on the middle class.

The writing has long since been on the wall people.




tweakabelle -> RE: John Boehner/Republicans are raising your taxes... (12/20/2011 9:28:36 PM)

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl


quote:

ORIGINAL: Theon38

Well, the "wealthiest" are already paying the most progressive tax of any of us.

How many more times can you demonize the "wealthiest" before they run out of money?


Cry me a river


Tazzy such selfish cynicism doesn't become you! Have you no idea of the harrowing circumstances some billionaires are facing in these times of financial stringency?

Why only the other day I was advised of the heart wrenching case of an average billionaire - a hedge fund manager, gentle soul, never hurt a fly in his life - who was faced with the dreadful reality that the Ferrari he had his heart set on wasn't available in aubergine, and that he would have to settle for scarlet red like the rest of the great unwashed. Haven't these people ever heard of prestige, I ask you? Don't they understand what exclusive means?

I could relate tale after tale of similar vindictive abuse, harassment and malice directed at the wealth creators on whom we all rely for our financial survival. And don't get me started on those unspeakable Occupy people!

It simply has to cease immediately. Billionaires are sensitive types, shy unassuming achievers and if Congress doesn't stop harassing them, then they'll simply fire the lot of them and buy themselves another Congress.

Enough is enough (unless you're talking about a billionaire's bank account, in which case, enough is never enough!)




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