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ORIGINAL: provfivetine

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl
My my my, such anger this morning.

Yep. The barista at Dunkin' Donuts put cream and sugar in my coffee today when I requested it black; didn't notice until I got back home. Everyone is going to pay today...

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ORIGINAL: luckydawg

upset?

you gave me a good laugh.

seeing that the left has nothing but insults (can't actually defend their actions) made my morning.

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ORIGINAL: luckydawg

Farg, the truckers DO NOT SUPPORT the attacks on the ports.

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The drivers and thier uniouns do.

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Why? Just like Wall Street doesn’t have to abide by rules, our industry isn’t bound to regulation. So the market is run by con artists. The companies we work for call us independent contractors, as if we were our own bosses, but they boss us around. We receive Third World wages and drive sweatshops on wheels. We cannot negotiate our rates. (Usually we are not allowed to even see them.) We are paid by the load, not by the hour. So when we sit in those long lines at the terminals, or if we are stuck in traffic, we become volunteers who basically donate our time to the trucking and shipping companies. That’s the nice way to put it. We have all heard the words “modern-day slaves” at the lunch stops.

There are no restrooms for drivers. We keep empty bottles in our cabs. Plastic bags too. We feel like dogs. An Oakland driver was recently banned from the terminal because he was spied relieving himself behind a container. Neither the port, nor the terminal operators or anyone in the industry thinks it is their responsibility to provide humane and hygienic facilities for us. It is absolutely horrible for drivers who are women, who risk infection when they try to hold it until they can find a place to go.

The companies demand we cut corners to compete. It makes our roads less safe. When we try to blow the whistle about skipped inspections, faulty equipment, or falsified logs, then we are “starved out.” That means we are either fired outright, or more likely, we never get dispatched to haul a load again.

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ORIGINAL: luckydawg

Farg, the truckers DO NOT SUPPORT the attacks on the ports.

The .0000001% don't speak for the drivers.

The drivers and thier uniouns do.

Not a band of dirty hippies and anarchists.

Nor armchair revolutionaries...

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(123 u. s. 131) THE ANARCHISTS' CASE.1 Ex parte SPIES and others. (October 2 J, 1887.) ERROR, WRIT OF—FROM UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT—MOTION IN OPEN COURT.     That the first 10 articles of amendment were not intended to limit the powers of the state governments in respect to their own people, but to operate on the national government alone, was decided more than a half century ago, and that decision has been steadily adhered to since.


Barron v. Baltimore., 7 Pet. 243, 247; Livingston v. Moore, Id. 469, 552; Fox v. Ohio, 5 How 410, 434; Smith v. Maryland, 18 How. 71, 76; Withers v. Buckley, 20 How. 84, 91; Percear v. Com., 5 Wall. 475, 479; Twitchell v. Com., 7 Wall. 321. 325; Justices v. Murray, 9 Wall. 274, 278; Edwards v. Elliott, 21 Wall. 532, 557; Walker v. Sauvinet, 92 U. S. 90; U. 8. v. Cruiksiiank, Id. 542, 552; Pearson v. Tewdall, 95 U. S. 294, 296; Davidson v. New Orleans, 96 U. S. 97, 101; Kelly v. Pittsburgh, 104 U. S. 79; Presser v. Illinois, 116 U. S. 252, 265, 6 Sup. Ct. Rep. 580.  

It was contended, however, in argument, that, "though originally the first ten amendments were adopted as limitations on federal power, yet, in so far as they secure and recognize fundamental rights—common-law rights—of the man, [unalienable RIGHTS of the declaration of independence] they make them privileges and immunities
[RIGHTS converted to privileges, hence you no longer can declare, hence you ask the state for fucking permission pal.] of the man as a citizen of the United States, and cannot now be abridged by a state under the fourteenth amendment. In other words, while the ten amendments as limitations on power only apply to the federal government, and not to the states, yet in so far as they declare or recognize rights of persons, these rights are theirs, as citizens of the United States, and the fourteenth amendment as to such 'rights limits state power, as the ten amendments had limited federal power." It is also contended that the provision of the fourteenth amendment, which declares that no state shall deprive "any person of life, liberty, or property without due process of law," implies that every person charged with crime in a state shall be entitled to a trial by an impartial jury, and shall not be compelled to testify against himself.

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ORIGINAL: Iamsemisweet

http://www.columbian.com/news/2011/dec/12/protesters-halt-operations-some-western-ports/


I have largely refrained from criticizing OWS, but I fail to see how blocking ports is supposed to help the American middle class.  On the contrary, it seems like a really stupid, counterproductive thing to do.  What is the point? 

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ORIGINAL: Iamsemisweet

Union leaders don't seem to want the ports shut down, unless they are the ones who are calling for the strike. And it is definitely hurting local business owners and truckers. It isn't like the US is suddenly going to retool and start manufacturing our own goods again. I doubt we are capable.
http://www.columbian.com/news/2011/dec/12/occupy-port-clark-county-trucking-losses/

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What is the point?

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ORIGINAL: Aneirin

Higgs boson particles, the ''God''particle, of which I believe has just been positively identified at the Cern Hadron Colider.

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ORIGINAL: erieangel

Some might see that as a pipe dream, but I say it is an eventual possibility, even though the movie is science fiction. 

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ORIGINAL: farglebargle

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ORIGINAL: provfivetine

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ORIGINAL: Iamsemisweet

http://www.columbian.com/news/2011/dec/12/protesters-halt-operations-some-western-ports/


I have largely refrained from criticizing OWS, but I fail to see how blocking ports is supposed to help the American middle class.  On the contrary, it seems like a really stupid, counterproductive thing to do.  What is the point? 

Their point is simple: disrupt production and hamper the division of labor.

Only Marxists and their bastardized step-children, the Progressives, could think that sabotaging voluntary exchange raises the standards of living for the 99%.

The drivers want a place to take a shit. Why don't you want the truck drivers to have a bathroom?

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Farg, the truckers DO NOT SUPPORT the attacks on the ports.

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The drivers and thier uniouns do.

You are incorrect. The port truck drivers are openly in support.

http://cleanandsafeports.org/blog/2011/12/12/an-open-letter-from-america%E2%80%99s-port-truck-drivers-on-occupy-the-ports/

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Why? Just like Wall Street doesn’t have to abide by rules, our industry isn’t bound to regulation. So the market is run by con artists. The companies we work for call us independent contractors, as if we were our own bosses, but they boss us around. We receive Third World wages and drive sweatshops on wheels. We cannot negotiate our rates. (Usually we are not allowed to even see them.) We are paid by the load, not by the hour. So when we sit in those long lines at the terminals, or if we are stuck in traffic, we become volunteers who basically donate our time to the trucking and shipping companies. That’s the nice way to put it. We have all heard the words “modern-day slaves” at the lunch stops.

There are no restrooms for drivers. We keep empty bottles in our cabs. Plastic bags too. We feel like dogs. An Oakland driver was recently banned from the terminal because he was spied relieving himself behind a container. Neither the port, nor the terminal operators or anyone in the industry thinks it is their responsibility to provide humane and hygienic facilities for us. It is absolutely horrible for drivers who are women, who risk infection when they try to hold it until they can find a place to go.

The companies demand we cut corners to compete. It makes our roads less safe. When we try to blow the whistle about skipped inspections, faulty equipment, or falsified logs, then we are “starved out.” That means we are either fired outright, or more likely, we never get dispatched to haul a load again.