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egg mcmuffin...and regulations - 11/18/2011 3:32:14 PM   
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PS Yes I have killed animals for food.
Im sure someone somewhere is going to talk about deregulations needed but if they cant be humane, they dont deserve to be in business.
Pretty horrible if you give a damn.

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Mercy For Animals, known for exposing instances of animal cruelty across the country, has just released its newest undercover footage. The video, which was shot at McDonald's egg supplier Sparboe Egg Farms, the fifth largest egg supplier in the country, shows various acts of animal cruelty including:

Hens crammed into wire cages
Workers burning off the beaks of young chicks and throwing them into cages
Workers grabbing hens by their throats and ramming them into battery cages
Rotted hens and decomposed birds left in cages with hens still laying eggs for human consumption
A worker tormenting a bird by swinging her around in the air while her legs were caught in a grabbing device
A worker shoving a bird into the pocket of another employee
Chicks trapped and mangled in cage wire, others with open wounds and torn beaks
Live chicks thrown into plastic bags to be suffocated
Sparboe had produced all eggs used by McDonald's restaurants west of the Mississippi River. Mercy For Animals started a petition to urge McDonald's to uncage egg-laying hens, and McDonald's was fast to respond. McDonald's released a statement, sent via email to The Huffington Post, from Bon Langert, Vice President, Sustainability, that said:

McDonald's expects all of our suppliers to meet our stringent requirements for delivering high quality food prepared in a humane and responsible manner. Based upon recent information, we have informed our direct supplier, Cargill, that we are no longer accepting eggs from its supplier, Sparboe. This decision is based on McDonald's and Cargill's concern regarding the management of Sparboe's facilities.

This is not a food safety issue for our menu items. We can assure our customers that eggs in our entire supply chain meet McDonald's high standards for quality and safety.

Our primary commitment is to our customers, and we will continue serving safe, high-quality food without disruption.

Regarding the undercover videos, the behavior on tape is disturbing and completely unacceptable. McDonald's wants to assure our customers that we demand humane treatment of animals by our suppliers. We take this responsibility -- along with our customers' trust -- very seriously. It's important to note that the most alarming actions on video did not occur at Sparboe's Vincent, Iowa, facility that supplies McDonald's. Nonetheless, our extremely high standards for our suppliers prohibit this conduct.

McDonald's cares about how our food is sourced and we have a long history of action and commitment to improve the welfare of animals in our supply chain. We are a founding member of the Coalition for Sustainable Egg Supply (CSES) and are participating in an unprecedented three-year study that compares traditional, cage-free, and enriched laying hen housing systems on a commercial scale. For our customers, that means we’re working with scientists and suppliers to determine the most optimal hen housing method considering impacts on hen health & welfare, food safety, environment, and other important factors.

McDonald's is proud to be recognized as a leader in the restaurant industry for serving safe, quality food. Customers can feel good about eating at McDonald's.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/18/mcdonalds-animal-cruelty_n_1101519.html

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RE: egg mcmuffin...and regulations - 11/18/2011 4:18:59 PM   
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McDonald's cares about how our food is sourced and we have a long history of action and commitment to improve the welfare of animals in our supply chain.


Well, they need to get going on their pork supplier too then:

http://www.humanesociety.org/news/press_releases/2011/11/complaint_filed_11022011.html

n its videos, Smithfield claims, for example, that it provides animals with “ideal” living conditions and that their animals’ “every need is met,” despite the fact that the vast majority of its breeding sows are confined in gestation crates — metal cages that virtually immobilize animals for nearly their entire lives. Smithfield also routinely castrates animals and cuts portions of their tails off without painkillers.

The videos, which were released just months after an HSUS undercover investigation documented severe cruelty inside a Smithfield facility in Virginia, also include false and misleading claims about an environmental certification from the International Organization of Standards and misleading claims of “organic” agriculture.

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RE: egg mcmuffin...and regulations - 11/18/2011 4:25:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		Oh, and if you don't give a damn about the pigs, what about the Smithfield workers?

http://colorlines.com/archives/2009/07/food_inc_shines_a_light_on_immigrant_labor.html

I caught a screening of a new documentary called Food, Inc. last night and was impressed that the filmmakers went where so many refuse to go when it comes to criticizing the food industry. The movie talked about the exploitation of undocumented workers, and how American consumers benefit from the ranks of immigrants who work in the fields and the factories for pitiful wages.

The filmmakers followed Eduardo Peña, a UFCW organizer in North Carolina who works with Smithfield workers. You know Smithfield. Its Tar Heel plant in North Carolina is the largest pork slaughterhouse in the world, processing 32,000 pigs a day. It was the same plant found responsible for some of the tainted pork from that little old disease called…swine flu earlier this year. And the company also allegedly called in immigration raids two years ago in retaliation of workers who were trying to organize themselves.

This time, the cameras catch ICE carrying out a raid on families in a trailer park near Smithfield. Bulletproof vests and ICE caps on, guns drawn, they kick in the door of a family’s home and throw a woman into the back of a police car. According to Peña, Smithfield tips off ICE regularly, giving them the names of a couple of undocumented employees at a time; ICE raids people’s homes in exchange for staying off the plant’s floor. It is terrifying footage. The segment brings into stark relief the cynical collusion between corporation and government and the exploitation of workers, undocumented and not, at every level.

It’s all so much more invisible because meat processing plants are usually hidden in backwater towns. Who could stand the smell of acres and acres of soon-to-be pork and beef, standing around in their own shit all day long? It’s why you probably never heard of Greeley, Colorado or Hyrum, Utah or Postville, Iowa before they made headlines as the site of many of the major workplace raids in recent years. (Swift in 2006 and Agriprocessors in 2008 sound familiar?)

For people who can’t stand the presence of immigrants in their neighborhood but spring for the $0.79 per pound holiday ham, news flash! A largely invisible workforce works for severely depressed wages to make that ham so cheap for you.

http://www.statefansnationforums.com/topic.php?id=1651

one of the more troubling pieces about Smithfield was the degree to which they advertised in Mexico for (illegal) workers... only to [get] many of these same workers deported.

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RE: egg mcmuffin...and regulations - 11/18/2011 4:28:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		A lot of this stuff happens at egg "farms" all over. It's not isolated which is the worst part. Have you ever heard of the issues with Hormel? Horrible treatment of pigs.
You speak out against one and the others are just glad you aren't looking at them...

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RE: egg mcmuffin...and regulations - 11/18/2011 4:38:01 PM   
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Oh, and if you don't give a damn about the pigs, what about the Smithfield workers?

http://colorlines.com/archives/2009/07/food_inc_shines_a_light_on_immigrant_labor.html

I caught a screening of a new documentary called Food, Inc. last night and was impressed that the filmmakers went where so many refuse to go when it comes to criticizing the food industry. The movie talked about the exploitation of undocumented workers, and how American consumers benefit from the ranks of immigrants who work in the fields and the factories for pitiful wages.

The filmmakers followed Eduardo Peña, a UFCW organizer in North Carolina who works with Smithfield workers. You know Smithfield. Its Tar Heel plant in North Carolina is the largest pork slaughterhouse in the world, processing 32,000 pigs a day. It was the same plant found responsible for some of the tainted pork from that little old disease called…swine flu earlier this year. And the company also allegedly called in immigration raids two years ago in retaliation of workers who were trying to organize themselves.

This time, the cameras catch ICE carrying out a raid on families in a trailer park near Smithfield. Bulletproof vests and ICE caps on, guns drawn, they kick in the door of a family’s home and throw a woman into the back of a police car. According to Peña, Smithfield tips off ICE regularly, giving them the names of a couple of undocumented employees at a time; ICE raids people’s homes in exchange for staying off the plant’s floor. It is terrifying footage. The segment brings into stark relief the cynical collusion between corporation and government and the exploitation of workers, undocumented and not, at every level.

It’s all so much more invisible because meat processing plants are usually hidden in backwater towns. Who could stand the smell of acres and acres of soon-to-be pork and beef, standing around in their own shit all day long? It’s why you probably never heard of Greeley, Colorado or Hyrum, Utah or Postville, Iowa before they made headlines as the site of many of the major workplace raids in recent years. (Swift in 2006 and Agriprocessors in 2008 sound familiar?)

For people who can’t stand the presence of immigrants in their neighborhood but spring for the $0.79 per pound holiday ham, news flash! A largely invisible workforce works for severely depressed wages to make that ham so cheap for you.

http://www.statefansnationforums.com/topic.php?id=1651

one of the more troubling pieces about Smithfield was the degree to which they advertised in Mexico for (illegal) workers... only to [get] many of these same workers deported.

Treating staff worse than the animals doesnt surprise me
I hadnt seen that before thanks for the info Kali
While the animal abuse pisses me off to the point of violence, the brains behind them are beyond reprehensible, no rules, no regard, sickening beyond belief put together


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RE: egg mcmuffin...and regulations - 11/18/2011 4:59:46 PM   
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Depending on your grossness level, this has some disturbing pictures, BUT on the other hand, McDonanlds have reacted, way too late for the birds.
PS Yes I have killed animals for food.
Im sure someone somewhere is going to talk about deregulations needed but if they cant be humane, they dont deserve to be in business.
Pretty horrible if you give a damn.

‪McDonald's Cruelty: The Rotten Truth About Egg McMuffins‬
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6E8H3C1CrU&feature=player_embedded
more info
Mercy For Animals, known for exposing instances of animal cruelty across the country, has just released its newest undercover footage. The video, which was shot at McDonald's egg supplier Sparboe Egg Farms, the fifth largest egg supplier in the country, shows various acts of animal cruelty including:


Thank god for high blood pressure... I have a poached egg of on toast of my own creation with Cambodian hot sauce when I want to have an egg for breakfast... I mean it's terrible and all what they do to the chickens, but I just the amount of salt in the muffin itself is deadly and that's before the egg, sausage or bacon , and cheese land.
  It's like that Crusty the Clown Commercial for the pork sandwich in the Simpsons movie;
"The Clogger if you can find a greasier sandwich, you're in mexico"


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RE: egg mcmuffin...and regulations - 11/18/2011 7:22:23 PM   
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Who gives a fuck, they are chickens.

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RE: egg mcmuffin...and regulations - 11/18/2011 7:38:22 PM   
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Just saying....

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RE: egg mcmuffin...and regulations - 11/18/2011 8:28:04 PM   
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Who gives a fuck, they are chickens.


Did you know that chickens will eat their own? Damn cannibals. I wonder when they will become zombiefied.

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RE: egg mcmuffin...and regulations - 11/18/2011 9:23:46 PM   
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Mc'Donald's, Target Dump Egg Supplier After Investigation

Just saying....

What apart from Target (in a later article )adding to the list of people cancelling Sparboe eggs did I miss?

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RE: egg mcmuffin...and regulations - 11/18/2011 9:40:02 PM   
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Who gives a fuck, they are chickens.


Did you know that chickens will eat their own? Damn cannibals. I wonder when they will become zombiefied.


"Delicious, nutritious, tastes just like chicken. Sniff sniff....Mom?????? no!!!!!!!!"

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RE: egg mcmuffin...and regulations - 11/18/2011 9:43:20 PM   
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Who gives a fuck, they are chickens.


I give a fuck. For several reasons actually. Firstly, I believe when we deem animals as a food source to provide sustenance for us we owe them at least a decent life until the point they are slaughtered to feed us.

However if you are gross enough to eat McDonald's "mechanically separated chicken" and "chicken product" I suppose the concept of good food and ethical farming is lost on you anyway.


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RE: egg mcmuffin...and regulations - 11/18/2011 9:43:42 PM   
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A lot of this stuff happens at egg "farms" all over. It's not isolated which is the worst part. Have you ever heard of the issues with Hormel? Horrible treatment of pigs.
You speak out against one and the others are just glad you aren't looking at them...


I have daughters who refuse to eat any commercial meat after seeing and hearing how they treat animals on such 'farms,'  (and we are essentially carnivores in several parts of the year, because there is no option otherwise) and they have hunted and helped cut up and process the fish and wild animals we eat, so I would not say they are squeamish.

But I suppose that is the female principle. However I will say, this conduct of using animals in this manner is disgusting to me.

Make the city dwellers visit these concentration camps for animals and then kill and cut up their own meat and see how many like the taste of this hormone and antibiotic laden meat then.

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RE: egg mcmuffin...and regulations - 11/18/2011 9:47:23 PM   
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Who gives a fuck, they are chickens.


I give a fuck. For several reasons actually. Firstly, I believe when we deem animals as a food source to provide sustenance for us we owe them at least a decent life until the point they are slaughtered to feed us.

However if you are gross enough to eat McDonald's "mechanically separated chicken" and "chicken product" I suppose the concept of good food and ethical farming is lost on you anyway.



Oh, I agree totally about the McDonalds stuff. I havent stepped inside a McD or BK since travel hockey days. And if providing them, a "decent life" means they will taste better, Im all for it. Other than that? They don't know what kind of life they have, and most likely wouldnt have a life at all if they werent being raised as foodstock.

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RE: egg mcmuffin...and regulations - 11/18/2011 9:54:02 PM   
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Rotted hens and decomposed birds left in cages with hens still laying eggs for human consumption


Damn that's nasty


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RE: egg mcmuffin...and regulations - 11/18/2011 9:55:32 PM   
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RE: egg mcmuffin...and regulations - 11/18/2011 9:57:00 PM   
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Rotted hens and decomposed birds left in cages with hens still laying eggs for human consumption


Damn that's nasty



Wow, what an opening. But, alas, Im in a kinder gentler mood tonight.

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RE: egg mcmuffin...and regulations - 11/18/2011 10:23:04 PM   
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Mc'Donald's, Target Dump Egg Supplier After Investigation

Just saying....

What apart from Target (in a later article )adding to the list of people cancelling Sparboe eggs did I miss?


Missed that part. I think both stores should be commended for taking action instead of ignoring the problem. To be honest, I watched about 20 seconds of the video. When the guy snapped the chick's neck between his fingers, I shut it off.

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RE: egg mcmuffin...and regulations - 11/19/2011 3:28:48 AM   
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RE: egg mcmuffin...and regulations - 11/19/2011 3:38:06 AM   
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Mc'Donald's, Target Dump Egg Supplier After Investigation

Just saying....

What apart from Target (in a later article )adding to the list of people cancelling Sparboe eggs did I miss?


Missed that part. I think both stores should be commended for taking action instead of ignoring the problem. To be honest, I watched about 20 seconds of the video. When the guy snapped the chick's neck between his fingers, I shut it off.


My Hyvee store carries Sparboe eggs -- their cartons have the nerve to say "farm raised." pfft.
I'll be writing the manager...


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