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FirstQuaker -> Krugman's Revisionism Now the EU on fire (11/15/2011 6:27:03 PM)

Paul Krugmam, the "liberal" (and I  use that term in the USAsian sense) economic guru, is now attempting to rewrite history to duck the failings of his and "social democrats" beloved EU..

Krugman, who is described in wiki as -

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In a 2003 article, The Economist noted that Krugman's critics argue that "his relentless partisanship is getting in the way of his argument". The Economist also wrote that the vast majority of Krugman's columns feature attacks on Republicans and almost none criticize Democrats, making him "a sort of ivory-tower folk-hero of the American left—a thinking person's Michael Moore"[13] Libertarian conservative and federal appeals court judge Richard Posner called Krugman "an unabashed Democratic partisan who often goes overboard in his hatred of the Republicans."[156] He also notes that Lyinginponds.com, which tracks partisanship among public intellectuals, has in most years from 2002–2008, ranked Krugman number 1 or number 2 among Democratic columnists for partisanship.[156] Liberal journalist and author Michael Tomasky in The New York Review of Books stated "Many liberals would name Paul Krugman of The New York Times as perhaps the most consistent and courageous—and unapologetic—liberal partisan in American journalism."[157] New York Magazine called Krugman "the leading exponent of a kind of liberal purism", while liberal historian Michael Kazin has opined that Krugman’s account of the right succumbed to the Marxist flaw of false consciousness.[158]


is forced to make statements and be in positions like -

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In his piece Mr Krugman also makes the astonishing claim that the doomed European Project was originally “cheered” by American conservatives but “questioned” by US liberals:
The attempt to create a common European currency was one of those ideas that cut across the usual ideological lines. It was cheered on by American right-wingers, who saw it as the next best thing to a revived gold standard, and by Britain’s left, which saw it as a big step toward a social-democratic Europe. But it was opposed by British conservatives, who also saw it as a step toward a social-democratic Europe. And it was questioned by American liberals, who worried — rightly, I’d say (but then I would, wouldn’t I?) — about what would happen if countries couldn’t use monetary and fiscal policy to fight recessions.
I don’t recall “American right-wingers” cheering on the rise of the single currency, and the growth of a European superstate. Quite the opposite, in fact. British-style Euroscepticism has always been fashionable among US conservatives who have long admired Lady Thatcher’s views on Europe, but mocked and derided by the State Department and by the Left. American liberals in contrast have long been among the biggest supporters of the European Project. Witness the fawning Eurofederalism of the Obama administration as well as bastions of the ruling liberal elites such as The New York Times. Krugman is rewriting history now that the European model, beloved by East Coast liberals, is going down in flames.


So USAsian "conservatives" support the EU while the USasian "liberals" fought it tooth and nail now? Funny I see Obama over there every other week trying to help the fellahs prop the place up.

Must suck to realize that

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The reality that Krugman refuses to accept is that Europe offers a glimpse of America’s future if it continues down the path of European-style big government. The root of Europe’s financial crisis lies in decades of over-spending and over-borrowing, largely to pay for overgrown and bloated welfare systems, vast public sectors, and incredibly generous pension plans. Europe has a huge entitlements disaster heading its way, with graying electorates unable to sustain the status quo. Added to this has been the disastrous euro experiment, which has created a one-size fits all approach for 17 EU countries, with varying levels of economic advancement. It has been a huge leap into the dark, without a shred of democratic accountability.


Paul Krugman is rewriting history now that the eurozone, beloved by US liberals, is going down in flames


Looking like a replay of how crestfallen the same crew was when the Soviet Union collapsed.




tazzygirl -> RE: Krugman's Revisionism Now the EU on fire (11/15/2011 6:29:34 PM)

www.usasian.org




SternSkipper -> RE: Krugman's Revisionism Now the EU on fire (11/15/2011 6:46:27 PM)

I hope someday the neo-cons claim Pauley rightfully as their own.





tazzygirl -> RE: Krugman's Revisionism Now the EU on fire (11/15/2011 6:50:07 PM)

Some of what he writes I like, some I dont.




SternSkipper -> RE: Krugman's Revisionism Now the EU on fire (11/15/2011 6:59:52 PM)

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Some of what he writes I like, some I dont.


Yeah, but what I think he does is that same shit guys like Straus, Kristol, and  Wolfowitz often did early on in their revisionism. String you in with just enough 'likeable' dogma to make you sit through the total bullshit punchline.
  That's the thing I dislike about Krugman.. he mirrors their methods. And it's every bit as big a pile of shit in the end.
  




BanthaSamantha -> RE: Krugman's Revisionism Now the EU on fire (11/15/2011 7:27:00 PM)

A point of caution when you read this article. Nile Gardiner, the author, is a partisan. That doesn't necessarily mean what he says is dishonest; it is simply a reminder that he is a player in the political game and has a vested interest in his side winning. Take what you want from it (there's certainly valid points), but don't take it as gospel.




thishereboi -> RE: Krugman's Revisionism Now the EU on fire (11/15/2011 7:29:02 PM)

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(and I use that term in the USAsian sense)


Still not sure on your definition of that one[8|].

http://us_asians.tripod.com/index2.html






FirstQuaker -> RE: Krugman's Revisionism Now the EU on fire (11/15/2011 7:29:45 PM)

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ORIGINAL: BanthaSamantha

A point of caution when you read this article. Nile Gardiner, the author, is a partisan. That doesn't necessarily mean what he says is dishonest; it is simply a reminder that he is a player in the political game and has a vested interest in his side winning. Take what you want from it (there's certainly valid points), but don't take it as gospel.


True, but there is no doubt Krugman is partisan.




tazzygirl -> RE: Krugman's Revisionism Now the EU on fire (11/15/2011 7:30:33 PM)


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ORIGINAL: SternSkipper

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Some of what he writes I like, some I dont.


Yeah, but what I think he does is that same shit guys like Straus, Kristol, and  Wolfowitz often did early on in their revisionism. String you in with just enough 'likeable' dogma to make you sit through the total bullshit punchline.
  That's the thing I dislike about Krugman.. he mirrors their methods. And it's every bit as big a pile of shit in the end.
  



Not an avid reader, the man is though.




tazzygirl -> RE: Krugman's Revisionism Now the EU on fire (11/15/2011 7:32:05 PM)


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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

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(and I use that term in the USAsian sense)


Still not sure on your definition of that one[8|].

http://us_asians.tripod.com/index2.html





Only place you will find it used per his definition is urban dictionary




thishereboi -> RE: Krugman's Revisionism Now the EU on fire (11/15/2011 7:33:12 PM)

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(and I use that term in the USAsian sense)


or perhaps this was what you were thinking of....

http://usasianjoy.com/




thishereboi -> RE: Krugman's Revisionism Now the EU on fire (11/15/2011 7:34:15 PM)

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl


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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

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(and I use that term in the USAsian sense)


Still not sure on your definition of that one[8|].

http://us_asians.tripod.com/index2.html





Only place you will find it used per his definition is urban dictionary



Maybe he will like my next one better. It even has a hot chick on the home page[8D]




tazzygirl -> RE: Krugman's Revisionism Now the EU on fire (11/15/2011 7:35:04 PM)

Im not quite sure he swings that way.




FirstQuaker -> RE: Krugman's Revisionism Now the EU on fire (11/15/2011 7:38:30 PM)

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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

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(and I use that term in the USAsian sense)


Still not sure on your definition of that one[8|].

http://us_asians.tripod.com/index2.html





Try places like the Urban dictionary - USAsians

variants include USAnian and United Statians




provfivetine -> RE: Krugman's Revisionism Now the EU on fire (11/15/2011 7:45:40 PM)

Krugman is such a hack and is just another scum-bag on Team Princeton. This is a man who stated that the earthquake in Japan would be beneficial for the Japanese economy.




FirstQuaker -> RE: Krugman's Revisionism Now the EU on fire (11/15/2011 7:49:52 PM)

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ORIGINAL: provfivetine

Krugman is such a hack and is just another scum-bag on Team Princeton. This is a man who stated that the earthquake in Japan would be beneficial for the Japanese economy.


Wwell the fall of the EUrozone is making him scramble to explain how his pride and joy is going down in flames

I am sure the Reagan Republicans and the Tory Thatcherites and other Eruroceptics are interested to hear how they supported the creation of the EUrozone, and thus doubtless are responsible for its downfall.




tazzygirl -> RE: Krugman's Revisionism Now the EU on fire (11/15/2011 7:52:14 PM)

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Try places like the Urban dictionary - USAsians

variants include USAnian and United Statians


Again, urban dictionary [8|]

Unless you are talking about the radio stations.

http://www.unitedstations.com/

Dont these guys have an original vocabulary?




provfivetine -> RE: Krugman's Revisionism Now the EU on fire (11/15/2011 7:58:19 PM)

Paul Krugman calls for war against space aliens. (I'm not making this up).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaED2ErdIv8




FirstQuaker -> RE: Krugman's Revisionism Now the EU on fire (11/15/2011 8:02:49 PM)

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ORIGINAL: provfivetine

Paul Krugman calls for war against space aliens. (I'm not making this up).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaED2ErdIv8


He has a Nobel prize for economics. And with worthies like him receiving such awards no wonder the world economies are tanking.




tazzygirl -> RE: Krugman's Revisionism Now the EU on fire (11/15/2011 8:06:08 PM)

lol

and this from a man who makes up definitions for words.




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