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Sanity -> Car Company Gets U.S. Loan, Builds Cars In Finland (10/20/2011 6:43:26 PM)


Mr Perfects latest scandal:

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Car Company Gets U.S. Loan, Builds Cars In Finland


With the approval of the Obama administration, an electric car company that received a $529 million federal government loan guarantee is assembling its first line of cars in Finland, saying it could not find a facility in the United States capable of doing the work.


Vice President Joseph Biden heralded the Energy Department's $529 million loan to the start-up electric car company called Fisker as a bright new path to thousands of American manufacturing jobs. But two years after the loan was announced, the job of assembling the flashy electric Fisker Karma sports car has been outsourced to Finland. ...

Fisker Automotive, backed by a powerhouse venture capital firm whose partners include former Vice President Al Gore, predicts it will eventually be churning out tens of thousands of electric sports sedans at the shuttered GM factory it bought in Delaware.


Coincidentally...


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Energy Department officials have been steadfast that politics never entered the picture and each project was screened by professionals and secured on the merits. And executives from Tesla and Fisker said they won government support because their projects had the best shot at success. They said the involvement of well-connected figures in their companies should not suggest they attempted to use special influence to secure the loans.


Both companies have political heavyweights behind them. One of Fisker's biggest financial supporters, records show, is the California venture capital firm Kleiner Perkins Caufield & Byers. The firm financially supports numerous green-tech firms, records show.


Kleiner Perkins partner John Doerr, a California billionaire who made a fortune investing in Google, hosted President Obama at a February dinner for high-tech executives at his secluded estate south of San Francisco. Doerr and Kleiner Perkins executives have contributed more than $1 million to federal political causes and campaigns over the last two decades, primarily supporting Democrats. Doerr serves on Obama's Council on Jobs and Competitiveness. Doerr has not replied to interview requests since March.


Former Vice President Al Gore is another Kleiner Perkins senior partner. Gore could not be reached for comment. ...

Tesla's founder and CEO, Elon Musk, is a hearty political contributor who has primarily backed Democrats, including Obama. According to published reports, another Tesla investor is Nick Pritzker, a donor to Obama and a cousin of Penny Pritzker, the national finance chair of Obama's 2008 campaign.

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willbeurdaddy -> RE: Car Company Gets U.S. Loan, Builds Cars In Finland (10/20/2011 7:13:15 PM)

Going to be some awesome ads about these next summer :)




slvemike4u -> RE: Car Company Gets U.S. Loan, Builds Cars In Finland (10/20/2011 7:17:31 PM)

Is it possible ,and this is without my investigating this any further,that the cars will actually in the future be made in Deleware as Fisker Automotive states ?




servantforuse -> RE: Car Company Gets U.S. Loan, Builds Cars In Finland (10/20/2011 7:36:45 PM)

Obama said he will have a lazer like focus on jobs. He didn't say where the jobs would be. Your tax dollars at work.




tazzygirl -> RE: Car Company Gets U.S. Loan, Builds Cars In Finland (10/20/2011 7:56:33 PM)

You do realize they just got EPA approval for that car.




servantforuse -> RE: Car Company Gets U.S. Loan, Builds Cars In Finland (10/20/2011 8:13:53 PM)

Regardless, these jobs are in Finland, financed with our tax dollars while Obama is running around in a bus built in Canada touting his jobs bill.




Sanity -> RE: Car Company Gets U.S. Loan, Builds Cars In Finland (10/20/2011 8:34:08 PM)


Asking for another five hundred billion to pass out to his favorite corporate donors

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ORIGINAL: servantforuse

Regardless, these jobs are in Finland, financed with our tax dollars while Obama is running around in a bus built in Canada touting his jobs bill.




tazzygirl -> RE: Car Company Gets U.S. Loan, Builds Cars In Finland (10/21/2011 2:58:44 AM)


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ORIGINAL: servantforuse

Regardless, these jobs are in Finland, financed with our tax dollars while Obama is running around in a bus built in Canada touting his jobs bill.


You bought into that spin as well. [;)]




Moonhead -> RE: Car Company Gets U.S. Loan, Builds Cars In Finland (10/21/2011 4:54:57 AM)

So, were you bitching about manufacturing work being outsourced while the chimp was running your country, or is this something that's only become a bad thing since there's a Kenyan democrat usurper in the white house?
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With the approval of the Obama administration, an electric car company that received a $529 million federal government loan guarantee is assembling its first line of cars in Finland, saying it could not find a facility in the United States capable of doing the work.

Perhaps if the last guy had left your economy and automobile industry in better shape, they'd be able to start manufacturing in the 'States from the off instead of having to raise cash to retool a plant in Delaware by selling cars manufactured out of the country...




willbeurdaddy -> RE: Car Company Gets U.S. Loan, Builds Cars In Finland (10/21/2011 7:42:00 AM)


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ORIGINAL: servantforuse

Obama said he will have a lazer like focus on jobs. He didn't say where the jobs would be. Your tax dollars at work.


Since he's a Dem he expects to attract more foreign campaign contributions by lowering the rest of the worlds unemployment rate.




Nosathro -> RE: Car Company Gets U.S. Loan, Builds Cars In Finland (10/21/2011 7:43:41 AM)

There really should be a clause in these contracts when the government loans money to companies like this, "All work to be done in the United States" if not, they pay back the money immidatly.




Moonhead -> RE: Car Company Gets U.S. Loan, Builds Cars In Finland (10/21/2011 7:51:27 AM)

Do you honestly think anybody would sign up for any of these contracts in the first place if there was?




willbeurdaddy -> RE: Car Company Gets U.S. Loan, Builds Cars In Finland (10/21/2011 9:19:11 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Nosathro

There really should be a clause in these contracts when the government loans money to companies like this, "All work to be done in the United States" if not, they pay back the money immidatly.


Its more insidious than that. They are loan guarantees...the taxpayer cant get repaid if the guarantee is triggered, because the company is already bankrupt. But if the company succeeds, the taxpayer gets nothing. If they arent triggered, the money sits in Obama's personal slush fund.




servantforuse -> RE: Car Company Gets U.S. Loan, Builds Cars In Finland (10/21/2011 10:11:47 AM)

Did everyone see the price tag on the US financed car from Finland ? Expected to be in the range of $97,000.00 ..Leonardio Decaprio has one ordered, maybe Al Gore will be next. Why aren't the OWS people raising heck about this. ??




Lucylastic -> RE: Car Company Gets U.S. Loan, Builds Cars In Finland (10/21/2011 10:12:55 AM)

why didnt you complain before 2008?




servantforuse -> RE: Car Company Gets U.S. Loan, Builds Cars In Finland (10/21/2011 10:29:07 AM)

I had nothing to complain about before 2008.




Lucylastic -> RE: Car Company Gets U.S. Loan, Builds Cars In Finland (10/21/2011 10:40:52 AM)

LMAO of course you didnt
ignorance is never concerned about others




tolovetolaugh -> RE: Car Company Gets U.S. Loan, Builds Cars In Finland (10/21/2011 10:52:28 AM)

I'm just excited Delaware was mentioned.





willbeurdaddy -> RE: Car Company Gets U.S. Loan, Builds Cars In Finland (10/21/2011 10:52:34 AM)


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ORIGINAL: servantforuse

Did everyone see the price tag on the US financed car from Finland ? Expected to be in the range of $97,000.00 ..Leonardio Decaprio has one ordered, maybe Al Gore will be next. Why aren't the OWS people raising heck about this. ??


I heard $90,000, but its still just a rich mans status symbol. And when you adjust for the cost of producing the electricity they get a whopping 19 mpg equivalent in fossil fuel use.

and if any of the ignored above try to claim "but they couldnt find anyone in the US that could build them", too fucking bad. The Oblama administration knew the cars would be made in Finland when they made the loan (or guarantee, Ive heard conflicting reports on the terms of the deal). The investors include Al Gore's firm, surprise surprise surprise.




tazzygirl -> RE: Car Company Gets U.S. Loan, Builds Cars In Finland (10/21/2011 11:39:15 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Nosathro

There really should be a clause in these contracts when the government loans money to companies like this, "All work to be done in the United States" if not, they pay back the money immidatly.


The company states all money from the US loan has been kept in this country. Until someone shows otherwise.....




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