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RE: Las Vegas Republican Debate: Oct 18, 2011 - 10/19/2011 9:27:35 AM

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Getting a bj is a WHOLE lot different then laying divorce papers on your sick wife in the hospital. Thats a level of nastiness that you just can't talk your way around. But, I'd love to see him as your nominee!!!!!

If that is what had happened, I would agree. However, it isn't.

Setting the Record Straight by Jackie Gingrich Cushman (daughter of Newt and the sick wife referred to above)

"I was 13 years old, and we were about to leave Fairfax, Va., and drive to Carrollton, Ga., for the summer. My parents told my sister and me that they were getting a divorce as our family of four sat around the kitchen table of our ranch home.

Soon afterward, my mom, sister and I got into our light-blue Chevrolet Impala and drove back to Carrollton.
Later that summer, Mom went to Emory University Hospital in Atlanta for surgery to remove a tumor. While she was there, Dad took my sister and me to see her.
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My mother and father were already in the process of getting a divorce, which she requested.

Dad took my sister and me to the hospital to see our mother."

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RE: Las Vegas Republican Debate: Oct 18, 2011 - 10/19/2011 9:35:12 AM

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from theheadmaster of the bickering school, Bicker McBickerson.

zinnnnngggggg ......!!!!

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RE: Las Vegas Republican Debate: Oct 18, 2011 - 10/19/2011 9:37:17 AM

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RE: Las Vegas Republican Debate: Oct 18, 2011 - 10/19/2011 9:39:03 AM

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"He walked out in the spring of 1980.... By September, I went into the hospital for my third surgery. The two girls came to see me, and said, "Daddy is downstairs. Could he come up?" When he got there, he wanted to discuss the terms of the divorce while I was recovering from my surgery." - Jackie, his first wife.

So...differing truths, and settling between them, it ain't pretty. Now, I don't much give a fuck about divorces, turns out I ain't no fuckin' day at the beach myself......I didnt get to be 57 years old and alone by being largely facile at relationships....

It's the other stuff he's done that takes him out of the running for me.

"She isn't young enough or pretty enough to be the President's wife." - Newt, on his first wife.

And it is considerably more despicable than that little ----

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RE: Las Vegas Republican Debate: Oct 18, 2011 - 10/19/2011 9:46:11 AM

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Getting a bj is a WHOLE lot different then laying divorce papers on your sick wife in the hospital. Thats a level of nastiness that you just can't talk your way around. But, I'd love to see him as your nominee!!!!!

If that is what had happened, I would agree. However, it isn't.

Setting the Record Straight by Jackie Gingrich Cushman (daughter of Newt and the sick wife referred to above)

"I was 13 years old, and we were about to leave Fairfax, Va., and drive to Carrollton, Ga., for the summer. My parents told my sister and me that they were getting a divorce as our family of four sat around the kitchen table of our ranch home.

Soon afterward, my mom, sister and I got into our light-blue Chevrolet Impala and drove back to Carrollton.
Later that summer, Mom went to Emory University Hospital in Atlanta for surgery to remove a tumor. While she was there, Dad took my sister and me to see her.
...
My mother and father were already in the process of getting a divorce, which she requested.

Dad took my sister and me to the hospital to see our mother."

Think Nottertail gave the cogent facts. Your support for him is pretty alarming. He's a disgusting fuck. No matter how you cut him.

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RE: Las Vegas Republican Debate: Oct 18, 2011 - 10/19/2011 9:55:24 AM

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Romney, for better or worse is appearing to be the best of this lot for the job. Paul is getting to old and dated to function.

Gringrinch is still sleaze to me, and Perry is nothing but a rewrapped Dixiecrat.

Cain looked functional at first, but after reading his comments on the Federal Reserve, and inspecting his tax plan (the 9-9-9 is the middle stage of it, the final stage is a massive single tax) his economics suck, which suprised me since he actiually has run a business.

As for the rest of the pack . . . .

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RE: Las Vegas Republican Debate: Oct 18, 2011 - 10/19/2011 10:26:55 AM

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Out of this group(which I find highly uninspiring) Romney is the head and shoulders best candidate your party can put forth.Paradoxically he is the one least suited to take on Obama in the general,specifically due to Romney care and his weak defense of that as opposed to ObamaCare.Citing one is a state program as opposed to a federal ne will not draw the distinction he needs.Those who like the program will see him running from it,while those that oppose it will not buy into his attempt to run from it...a lose/lose situation for your only choice as candidate.
Result,thankfully a second term for Obama.

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RE: Las Vegas Republican Debate: Oct 18, 2011 - 10/19/2011 10:35:08 AM

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Out of this group(which I find highly uninspiring) Romney is the head and shoulders best candidate your party can put forth.Paradoxically he is the one least suited to take on Obama in the general,specifically due to Romney care and his weak defense of that as opposed to ObamaCare.Citing one is a state program as opposed to a federal ne will not draw the distinction he needs.Those who like the program will see him running from it,while those that oppose it will not buy into his attempt to run from it...a lose/lose situation for your only choice as candidate.
Result,thankfully a second term for Obama.

Unless the GOP changes significantly in the libertarian direction, I doubt I will ever see it as "my" party, not that the US Democrats are much better.

I normally "vote my conscience" on either side of the border, so far, looking back on my US voting over some decades, it ended up being a mostly even split.

Trying to sort the turkeys out on either side requires one inspect each one, not take one flock of them or the other in package deals.

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RE: Las Vegas Republican Debate: Oct 18, 2011 - 10/19/2011 10:39:30 AM

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Think Nottertail gave the cogent facts. Your support for him is pretty alarming. He's a disgusting fuck. No matter how you cut him.

Oh, come on DYB. The cogent fact is that one of the Republican candidates could be the Son of God himself, and neither you, nor Ron, nor mike, nor many of the lefties on this board would vote for him, and would look for dirt to dig up on him as well.

That's the "cogent facts".

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RE: Las Vegas Republican Debate: Oct 18, 2011 - 10/19/2011 10:43:07 AM

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I may be mis-quoting, but one of the things I always remember about Gingrich was the comment made by another Republican:

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Newt gets 1,000 ideas every day in his head. 1 is a great idea - and the other 999 are crap.

Romney's tenure as Governor of my state, Massachusetts, was spent running for President, not serving as Governor. The last year of his Govenorship, he was hardly ever in the state - he was traveling the country campaigning for President. If you only have one ambition in your life - and you achieve that ambition - what do you do then? If he gets elected President - how will he spend his time during the last year of his term as President? Running for Emperor?

Romney gave a detailed interview to a reporter from the Boston Globe early in his Governorship in which he said the only reason he got into politics was to prove to the American people that they had made a mistake not electing his father, George Romney, to the Presidency in 1968 instead of Richard "Tricky Dick" Nixon. Romney's goal is not to serve his country and it's citizens - it is to get revenge on the United States of America for disrespecting his Dad. Do you really want to elect a person who is only running for office to get revenge against a slight on his family's "honor"?

Cain's "9-9-9" program? Every dollar I earn by actually working for it (not because I inherited it from my parents or grandparents or got it by selling a stock or receiving a stock dividend but by actually working for it) gets taxed 9% - and then if I buy anything with it, it gets taxed 9% AGAIN? Why doesn't he just call it his "Working people pay 18% tax - drones pay nothing" program?

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RE: Las Vegas Republican Debate: Oct 18, 2011 - 10/19/2011 10:48:23 AM

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I may be mis-quoting, but one of the things I always remember about liberals in general was the comment:
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They get 1,000 ideas every day in their heads. 1 is a great idea - and the other 999 are crap.

FYP for you.

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RE: Las Vegas Republican Debate: Oct 18, 2011 - 10/19/2011 10:55:03 AM

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ORIGINAL: Fightdirecto

I may be mis-quoting, but one of the things I always remember about Gingrich was the comment made by another Republican:
quote:

Newt gets 1,000 ideas every day in his head. 1 is a great idea - and the other 999 are crap.

Romney's tenure as Governor of my state, Massachusetts, was spent running for President, not serving as Governor. The last year of his Govenorship, he was hardly ever in the state - he was traveling the country campaigning for President. If you only have one ambition in your life - and you achieve that ambition - what do you do then? If he gets elected President - how will he spend his time during the last year of his term as President? Running for Emperor?

Romney gave a detailed interview to a reporter from the Boston Globe early in his Governorship in which he said the only reason he got into politics was to prove to the American people that they had made a mistake not electing his father, George Romney, to the Presidency in 1968 instead of Richard "Tricky Dick" Nixon. Romney's goal is not to serve his country and it's citizens - it is to get revenge on the United States of America for disrespecting his Dad. Do you really want to elect a person who is only running for office to get revenge against a slight on his family's "honor"?

Cain's "9-9-9" program? Every dollar I earn by actually working for it (not because I inherited it from my parents or grandparents or got it by selling a stock or receiving a stock dividend but by actually working for it) gets taxed 9% - and then if I buy anything with it, it gets taxed 9% AGAIN? Why doesn't he just call it his "Working people pay 18% tax - drones pay nothing" program?

If that were only the worst of Cain's tax plan . . .

Start inspecting just which business expense and taxes he woudl dump and which ones he woudl keep. Basicly if you run a capital intensive business with few employees, you get tax breaks, where if you run a labor intensive buiness with low capital you get soaked. This will basically kill the service sector, and certainly won't help provide jobs, regardless of what Cain says.

And you don't have to go further then some of the provinces in Canada or countries in the Commonwealth (never mind the EU) to see how his "sales tax" which should be correctly called a VAT is operated. Not that there is anything inherently wrong with a VAT . . .

Some of the "conservatives" even are already grumbling.

But yes, from the workers stand point the tax burden is going to hit wage and salary earners at the bottom of the pile the most.

And from the business standpoint, you won't be doing any more hiring then you need to, and be encouraged to make big capital outlays. The only good thing is it will smoke imported things pretty well, as his VAT will hit them hard.

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RE: Las Vegas Republican Debate: Oct 18, 2011 - 10/19/2011 11:43:06 AM

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Think Nottertail gave the cogent facts. Your support for him is pretty alarming. He's a disgusting fuck. No matter how you cut him.

Oh, come on DYB. The cogent fact is that one of the Republican candidates could be the Son of God himself, and neither you, nor Ron, nor mike, nor many of the lefties on this board would vote for him, and would look for dirt to dig up on him as well.

That's the "cogent facts".

Firm

There you go...yet when I posted ,originally, that I did not feel you would be interested in my opinion on this group you responded in the contrary .
Now as far as "cogent facts" go...I was a registered republican till 2008...and had,to my now everlasting shame,voted for the governor of Texas in the 2000 and 2004 elections.This was,as I now see it a huge mistake.one borne of distaste for the Clinton machine( which led to Gore) and personal bitterness wholly my own.Thank god I have seen my way thru the bitterness and am once again a happy person who casts his votes accordingly

For my previous transgressions all I can say is...mae cullpa,mae cullpa,mae cullpa.

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RE: Las Vegas Republican Debate: Oct 18, 2011 - 10/19/2011 11:45:04 AM

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Mea Culpa, Mea Culpa --would stave off the opinions that you may be saying that with your fingers crossed...

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RE: Las Vegas Republican Debate: Oct 18, 2011 - 10/19/2011 11:45:57 AM

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In terms of Republican "job" proposals- take a look here for a quick analysis.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/post/gop-deregulate-wall-street/2011/08/25/gIQAeJmNuL_blog.html

Sam

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RE: Las Vegas Republican Debate: Oct 18, 2011 - 10/19/2011 11:53:24 AM

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In terms of Republican "job" proposals- take a look here for a quick analysis.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/post/gop-deregulate-wall-street/2011/08/25/gIQAeJmNuL_blog.html

Sam

The Mormon looks like he is ahead of the game in the Washington Post estimation too.

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RE: Las Vegas Republican Debate: Oct 18, 2011 - 10/19/2011 11:55:43 AM

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Are you suggesting that there are those amongst us who would not believe me when I claim to have voted for Bush the lesser twice ?
Or perhaps you do not believe me when I claim to have not been allowed to vote in the New York Democratic primary of 2008 due to having just recently switched party affiliation?
If you are having trust issues Ron...consider this,I have just publically admitted to having voted for perhaps the worst President in American history...not once but twice.Do you think I have done this to score some sort of points with those on the right?
What about the credibility I might lose on the left ?
Bad enough my son will not let me forget the errors I have made in the past....now sanity can attack me for them too

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RE: Las Vegas Republican Debate: Oct 18, 2011 - 10/19/2011 11:57:23 AM

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In terms of Republican "job" proposals- take a look here for a quick analysis.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/post/gop-deregulate-wall-street/2011/08/25/gIQAeJmNuL_blog.html

Sam

or these winners touted by a tout, and chiefly among them bills seek to rid us of such overbearing regulation as insuring that mercury levels as well as ratpoison in our drinking water is held to less than lethal levels, so that you can get a job for minimum wage at best to stuff ratpoisons, insectpoisons or other poisonous materials in 50# paperbags!!!!!!

http://www.collarchat.com/m_3881960/mpage_5/key_Job%252CCreation%252CEnabling%252CBills/tm.htm#3882612

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RE: Las Vegas Republican Debate: Oct 18, 2011 - 10/19/2011 12:43:54 PM

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Think Nottertail gave the cogent facts. Your support for him is pretty alarming. He's a disgusting fuck. No matter how you cut him.

Oh, come on DYB. The cogent fact is that one of the Republican candidates could be the Son of God himself, and neither you, nor Ron, nor mike, nor many of the lefties on this board would vote for him, and would look for dirt to dig up on him as well.

That's the "cogent facts".

Firm

There is disgusting and then there is disgusting. He is John Edwards disgusting....I can hate many republicans but most I won't lable as trash. Edwards and Newt are straight up trash.

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RE: Las Vegas Republican Debate: Oct 18, 2011 - 10/19/2011 12:45:08 PM

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Think Nottertail gave the cogent facts. Your support for him is pretty alarming. He's a disgusting fuck. No matter how you cut him.

Oh, come on DYB. The cogent fact is that one of the Republican candidates could be the Son of God himself, and neither you, nor Ron, nor mike, nor many of the lefties on this board would vote for him, and would look for dirt to dig up on him as well.

That's the "cogent facts".

Firm

And, I think the Son of God himself would be with me on these issues...or in fact left of me....

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